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2008/05/22 20:34:51 (permalink)

Midi Question

I have an Ensoniq ESQ-1, an Akai Cd3000i, A Roland Alpha Juno 2 a Roland XP-30 synth, Reason 4, Sonar Home Studio 4, and an M Audio Firewire Audiophile audio/midi interface. My issue is that I love the sequencer on my ESQ-1 but for some Reason I cannot get all of my gear to play nicely together via midi. I can sequence my hardware together just fine but when it comes to adding Reason to the mix I always have midi problems. Everything will communicate and I can sequence everything on the ESQ-1 just fine but when it comes time to dump the midi data into Sonar in particular for Reason for some strange reason Sonar does not recieve any midi data. Can someone explain to me why this is. My midi connection is as follows

ESQ-1 Midi out to Firewire Audiophile Midi in Firewire audiophile midi out to Cd3000i midi in cd3000 midi thru to alpha juno midi in alpha juno midi thru to xp 30 midi in xp 30 midi out to esq-1 midi in. My ESQ_1 does not have midi Thru. I would think this is a sensible connection for my gear but for some reason it is not and I would like to know why it doesn't work the way I'd like it to.


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    Beagle
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    RE: Midi Question 2008/05/23 08:59:58 (permalink)
    I'm not sure of your question, are you trying to work on your MIDI connections or are you trying to get Reason to work?


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    RE: Midi Question 2008/05/23 09:09:03 (permalink)
    *LOL*Glad I'm not the only one confused. I was actually typing a lengthy response with several options and then realized I wasn't sure what I was responding to!

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    RE: Midi Question 2008/05/23 09:15:19 (permalink)
    i looked at it, read it, read it again, and decided i didn't understand it either!!! we must be getting old guys!

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    RE: Midi Question 2008/05/23 09:24:47 (permalink)
    Well, if I got it right I think the problem is trying to get MIDI data from the ESQ 1 to Sonar. If that's the case, then Sonar will aceept MIDI data from any MIDI device as long as the MIDI device is connected to a valid MIDI In port selected in MIDI devices menu. (Reason is just a rewire device of Sonar so whatever Sonar sees Reason will see too). If that is the problem then you need to check the MIDI in definitions in Sonar and make sure the ESQ-1 is actually sending MIDI data - consult its manual -

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    RE: Midi Question 2008/05/23 09:40:06 (permalink)
    What's bothering me here (I'm brain-dead right now) is I think he's using the ESQ-1 as the keyboard controller but it doesn't have a MIDI THRU Output. Ideally his connections would look something like this:



    I'm also confused about his REASON problems. Is he dumping MIDI data and THEN trying to insert Reason as a rewire device? I don't know...I'm confusing myself even more!

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    RE: Midi Question 2008/05/23 09:49:57 (permalink)
    Obviously inserting Reason as a rewire device is not related to the MIDI data issue - Reason would be just a part of Sonar once it is rewired - so the problem should be related to how MIDI data is transfered to Sonar. That's why I thought about what he needs to check as I mentioned above. But now that I'm saying this I get confused myself.
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    RE: Midi Question 2008/05/23 09:58:46 (permalink)
    re-reading it it seems the issue is what midi info is being transmitted into sonar from the audiophile and out of sonar from the audiophile into the other sound modules...how many different channels of midi data is being transmitted and is he playing back sound from Reason and the external midi souces at the same time -i don't know but this seems complicated and likely to be out of sync at some point as he has not got a midi master timing unit...or am i wrong? is the Audiophile the master timer, if so can it output timing to Reason AND Sonar AND the other midi modules?

    it's not really my thing, this midi stuff...

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    RE: Midi Question 2008/05/23 09:59:14 (permalink)
    What he said in the OP:

    Everything will communicate and I can sequence everything on the ESQ-1 just fine but when it comes time to dump the midi data into Sonar in particular for Reason for some strange reason Sonar does not recieve any midi data.


    He isn't clear whether the problem is only with Reason or with SONAR in general (which I guess he might be implying)...

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    RE: Midi Question 2008/05/23 15:57:12 (permalink)
    Thanks guys but I figured it out. What I was trying to do was get my 4 midi devices chained together properly to work right with Sonar. My ESQ-1 is my master device and sequencer of choice it has midi in and midi out i realized i had to go midi out from there and then use midi thru on my other devices and instead of going directly to my soundcard in the chain i needed to put my soundcard at the end of the chain and it worked out just fine. Appriciate all of your guys effort


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