Midi devices not appearing in Sonar

I just migrated my copy of Sonar 6 to a new 64-bit Vista machine. I am using a Presonus Firepod as my audio and MIDI interface, but no MIDI devices appear in Sonar other than the Microsoft GS Wavetable. Under "Options - Audio" in Sonar, I have the driver mode set to ASIO and the Playback and Record Timing Masters set to the Presonus drivers. The Presonus drivers appear correctly under "Audio-Drivers" and I have checked them all.

I have verfied that the 64-bit Presonus drivers are installed and that the latest firmware update is installed.

Would really appreciate any help on how to correct this. I have searched the Forum for ideas on this and have not made any progress so far.

Thanks,
HowNow

Sorry I wasn't clearer in the first post...My problem is that the Presonus device does not show up when I click on Options->MIDI. It did appear when I first installed it, but I experimented with moving between WDM mode and ASIO mode and that is when all the Presonus MIDI devices disappeared. It continues to work fine as my Audio device, but even after uninstalling and re-installing the Presonus I cannot get it to appear as a MIDI device.

Thanks for the help, FBB. When you say to disable the Microsoft GS Wavetable, do you just mean de-selecting it in Sonar (which I have done) or do you mean going into Windows Device Manager and doing something there.? I can't find any reference to it in Device Manager.

The Presonus Firepod does show up in Device Manager as working properly, and I have installed the current device drivers from Presonus. Are things supposed to be labelled as MIDI devices in Device Manager - because I don't see any reference to MIDI there - or would the Presonus just show up as an audio device there?

This seems like it should be an extremely basic problem to solve, but I have spent hours on it and gotten nowhere. Would really appreciate any other ideas.

HN

Thanks for the effort, FBB - but still no success. I tried the reinstall with a cold reboot and still no MIDI devices. Would really appreciate any other ideas if anyone out there has encountered this.

In the Windows Vista control panel under system then in the device manager are the MIDI ports shown?

ORIGINAL: CJaysMusic

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but no MIDI devices appear in Sonar other than the Microsoft GS Wavetable.

And thats why you dont see any. Get rid of the wavetable synth and youll see your midi devices
Cj

My thoughts exactly CJ but I think he's already disabled it and still getting problems.

HowNow I don't mind admitting that if you've

1. Disabled the Microsoft GS Wavetable
2. Re-installed the drivers AND confirmed the devices are installed correctly via the device manager and made sure they are not "disabled in this profile" (unlikely but possible)

then you've got me beat, if the system sees them correctly but Sonar doesn't the only other advice I can give is to rename or delete your Aud.ini file. That's a real shot in the dark as well, but worth a try all the same. Sorry.

Resetting BIOSes and re-installing Windows is IMHO completely OTT and usually unnecessary. Sure it may fix the problem but there's usually another way with less aggravation than that.

The "USB Audio Device" is a bit of a misnomer. That is how the native windows MIDI device driver will show up, so if you can see "USB Audio device" within Sonar that is a MIDI device and should work. I have 2 MIDI hubs that both show as such. One is "USB Audio device" and the second an E-MU2x2 which shows as "USB audio device (2)".

Having said that - and I don't know - I'm guessing that M-Audio have their own bespoke MIDI drivers for their keyboards and if so and they are installed correctly they should show as something along the lines of "M-Audio MIDI.... "

On my system the E-MU 2x2 only shows as a native "USB Audio device (2)" because there is a problem with E-MU's drivers and Sonar keeps forgetting about the device between restarts so I uninstalled E-MU's drivers and forced Windows to use the native drivers. So even if there are M-Audio drivers available and you're using native Windows drivers it should still work.

Some keyboards may also have multiple MIDI in/outs and they'll all show as an individual port. I use an Edirol PCR800. That attaches via USB and shows as a total of 2 out - 3 in but they all have PCR in the driver so they are easily recognizable in Sonar.

Are you absolutely sure that the "USB Audio device" driver is referring to your M-Audio keyboard? What other MIDI devices do you have if any. i.e. MIDI hubs etc. etc.
If Windows can't 'see' the device then there's no way you'll see it in Sonar.

To Max Output...
I Encountered the same problem. try un-installing the most resent audio plug-in or software that you have installed.
then re-start your computer. now see if your SONAR would now recognize your midi devices.
Because I believe that this was a program compatibility issue. hope that my suggestion worked.