Midi events appear to be written sooner than they should

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2012/12/04 16:38:33 (permalink)

Midi events appear to be written sooner than they should

I've tried and tried to play along with the metronome and get my events in time with the tempo of the track but what I think is correct is always too soon. (And sounds too soon when played back!)  I would think it would be the other way around considering. But yeah! I've stuck some kick drum hits on all the quarters and when I play it back with some other drum elements that are on the grid, the hits are always at least a 16th too soon. I can't record any piano or anything on the fly without having to quantize or manually align the events on the grid to make it sound right.

Can this be adjusted or something? One would think the time it takes for the sound of the metronome to reach the ear, then play a not on the keyboard that the events would lag. But that isn't the case here. Weird!

Maybe it's just the coffee, I don't know. 


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    Re:Midi events appear to be written sooner than they should 2012/12/04 21:34:28 (permalink)
    Wow I want that interface !   -2 ms latency hard to beat eh! 

    What I could figure is that Sonar has this way it delays what you hear so as to make new tracks line up. It takes the reported latency and manipulates playback so what your hear is going to be synced with what you play,,, Now this might be a different amount for MIDI. And in you case it needs tweaking.  Not near a DAW so can't look for it but bet ya there's a setting under MIDI options or Audio Options or??


    PS It wouldn't bother me as my timing sucks in both directions any how. I always quantize @ 16th or 16th triplet. Then I open the Piano view and look and listen for out of order notes. SOmetime those sound better than what I originally played..:?
    post edited by Cactus Music - 2012/12/04 21:38:18

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    Re:Midi events appear to be written sooner than they should 2012/12/05 08:57:13 (permalink)
    Yeah, there has to be something. It's just an Axiom 61 key. I'll look and see if there is any compensation in the Midi options.

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    Re:Midi events appear to be written sooner than they should 2012/12/05 10:45:23 (permalink)
    Hey, I see your using X1,,, you might get more answers in the X1 forum this is the old abandoned forum. 

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    Re:Midi events appear to be written sooner than they should 2012/12/05 14:55:50 (permalink)
    yeah, I see that now. It was an old bookmark I had.  I'll fix it! Thanks bud!

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