Midi input gone from X1...Gonna be another great weekend!

Well, after discovering that the Focusrite VRM and the Fast Track Ultra don't like each other and getting all that straightened out, up jumps something even worse.  Although X1 shows all settings correctly (I reset and "applied" them several times...rebooted...uninstalled/reinstalled my FTU drivers, put on a tin-foil hat...etc....) and while it will play midi output, it is now no longer recieving any midi input from any of my controllers.  And yes, 8.5.3 works just fine thank you.  I don't know how the Focusrite midi driver that got installed (and has since been uninstalled and deleted from the registry) could've done this but for whatever reason X1 no longer responds to midi from the FTU.  The FTU's signal lite is lighting up just fine when I play my controller but no midi get's into X1.  Again, midi input is just fine in 8.5.3.  Unfortunately my current CD project is now all in X1a.  I tried also "resetting" my aud.ini file in the advanced settings dialog.  No love.  How can I delete my aud.ini in X1...where is it exactly.  All this along with my monitor flickering and yellowing intermittently is making for a dandy work weekend here at Carfax Abbey.  Can't record and don't know whether I need a new monitor or video card.  When is X1b supposed to be out??????????

yorolpal


Well, after discovering that the Focusrite VRM and the Fast Track Ultra don't like each other and getting all that straightened out, up jumps something even worse.  Although X1 shows all settings correctly (I reset and "applied" them several times...rebooted...uninstalled/reinstalled my FTU drivers, put on a tin-foil hat...etc....) and while it will play midi output, it is now no longer recieving any midi input from any of my controllers.  And yes, 8.5.3 works just fine thank you.  I don't know how the Focusrite midi driver that got installed (and has since been uninstalled and deleted from the registry) could've done this but for whatever reason X1 no longer responds to midi from the FTU.  The FTU's signal lite is lighting up just fine when I play my controller but no midi get's into X1.  Again, midi input is just fine in 8.5.3.  Unfortunately my current CD project is now all in X1a.  I tried also "resetting" my aud.ini file in the advanced settings dialog.  No love.  How can I delete my aud.ini in X1...where is it exactly.  All this along with my monitor flickering and yellowing intermittently is making for a dandy work weekend here at Carfax Abbey.  Can't record and don't know whether I need a new monitor or video card.  When is X1b supposed to be out??????????

Ol Pal,
 
If you're on Win 7 the AUD.INI should be in your \user\yourname\appdata\cakewalk folder if I'm not mistaken.  I'm on XP so I'm doing this from memory of WIn7 setups.
 
I assume you did double check the MIDI OPTIONS in X1.   I also assume you double checked the 'input' source on the tracks you're trying to trigger.
 
I hope you can work this out.  Good luck.
 
 

Did you lose a bunch a Pro Channel stuff when you went back to 8.5?

when ever deleting aud.in i always make a back up(billy taught me this)you might be able to do a system restore to get you back to a point the regestry has what your looking for..sorry to hear about your probs ole pal

FWIW, saving the aud.ini is a fine practice... but SONAR rebuilds it any time it needs too. I can't think of a single time I have used or desired a back up of an aud.ini.

best regards,
mike

mike_mccue


FWIW, saving the aud.ini is a fine practice... but SONAR rebuilds it any time it needs too. I can't think of a single time I have used or desired a back up of an aud.ini.

best regards,
mike

One problem with deleting AUD.INI is that when Sonar rebuilds, it uses some defaults of its own which may - or may not - be what the user wants.
 
So a backup solves this IF deleting aud.ini was not the real issue.
 
However, good advice would be to re-check EVERY setting that is affected by aud.ini after deleting/rebuilding it or the user may find other things changed unknowingly.
 
 

Nope, can't be a cable as midi works fine both ways in 8.5

Although everything looks exactly right in the Edit/Preferences/Midi devices dialog (and, as I said, I've reset and reapplied several times) and X1 gives me no warning dialogs of any kind re midi...there is no "midi meter" signal at all on any midi track from ANY of my controllers (my Alesis QS8 which runs via midi cables into the FTU...which is showing midi input...and my nano pad and Kontroller and my Alesis Control pad which are all USB).  Somehow in installing/uninstalling/reinstalling and configuring the finally unworkable combination of the FTU and the VRM something midiwise got corrupted in X1.  I would imagine a total uninstall/registry clean/and reinstall of X1 might get me back to square one.  But I don't think I'm up to that today.  I'll keep ya posted. 

mike_mccue


:-)

I have SONAR utils on the desktop for a reason

:-)

not everyone does..so that idea wasnt aimed at you sir.    :)

SONAR utils is just an easy way to edit aud.ini... if Notepad is too inconvenient.

If a brand new auto generated aud.ini is messing with your SONAR... things are bad.

If you have a few tweaks in your previous aud.ini... it may or may not be expedient to rescue the old one rather than re make the few tweaks... especially if some "unknown" aspect of the aud.ini was fixed by the rebuild.

I guess I'd be more inclined to trust the new one with my favorite tweaks if things got so bad that I thought my aud.ini was corrupted.

Anyways... just throwing out some ideas.

best regards,
mike

At least you can fix that your on self. :-)

yorolpal


Well since I was thoroughly depressed by X1 crapping out on me and not being able to work in the studio, I thought I'd just work out my disappointment by doing something physical like mowing the yard.  Only guess what?  No, go on guess.  Yup, mower won't start either. 

LOL -- it's THE DRIVER

Well bvideo may be on to somethin here.  In my TTSEQ in 8.5 it lists the FTU twice in both midi in and midi out...and in my X1 it lists it three times.  If I knew how to show you a screen shot I would...but I'm an idiot.  It lists it like
MIDI IN=Fast Track Ultra
MIDI IN= 2-Fast Track Ultra
MIDI IN= 3-Fast Track Ultra

How come it keeps listing 2 and 3 etc... when it's the same thing? 

I tried (after carefully making a backup) deleting the uneeded extra instances of the FTU but X1 still wants to see 3-Fast Track Ultra in the Devices dialog.

Anyone???

Yes I'm sure that's the case.  I'm also getting the "drum maps have changed" dialog on exiting X1 for some reason which probably plays into this as well.  Even if I delete all instances of the FTU except just plain "Fast Track Ultra" in the TTSEQ file it still shows up as 3-Fast Track Ultra in the Devices dialog in X1.  Also it say's MAX IN PORTS=4 but I have five...I've changed that also but it just reverts back.  Since I have a backup file...if I delete TTSEQ will it rebuild itself like aud.ini???

Hmmmm...I deleted it.  But it DID NOT get rebuilt.  I deleted TTSSEQ (keeping my backup).  Then I shut down the computer.  Then I rebooted.  And let everything come back up.  Then I went back to the UserData folder and there was only my "backup" named file.  No TTSSEQ rebuilt.  Does that tell you anything??

PS: I've got to run up to the store...be back shortly.

It won't get rebuilt until you next run Sonar, or is that what you meant. FTU is that M-Audio BTW?

I constantly have all sorts of troubles with my M-Audio 4x4 under windows 7 x64. I quite often have to uninstall and re-install the drivers but nothing quite as drastic as you are seeing.

I seem to recall someone else on here having similar troubles as well but can't remember the specifics or whether it was ever resolved. I did do a quick search but didn't find anything. Not much help I know sorry.