Midi output selection method changeable?

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2011/01/11 17:14:01 (permalink)

Midi output selection method changeable?

Hello everyone,

I'm thinking about purchasing Sonar X1 so I tried out the trial, but I found one thing that's bugging me:
when I open a file on a different PC, I have to reselect the MIDI outputs for each track. Which is logical because I have a different output device on the other pc, but sonar 7 allowed this by simply selecting the output that had the same number.

This is a problem for me, because I work on projects on different pc's very often.

Does anyone know a workaround for this?

Thanks in advance for your responses.
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    Susan G
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    Re:Midi output selection method changeable? 2011/01/11 17:29:51 (permalink)
    Hi Arvid0-
    I'm thinking about purchasing Sonar X1 so I tried out the trial

    The trial/demo hasn't been released yet, so I'm not sure what you used. Lots of folks are looking forward to it, though (including me!).

    Someone with X1 will no doubt jump in, but in 8.5.3 and earlier you can select multiple tracks and set the output for all of them in one go from the Track menu.

    HTH-

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    Arvid0
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    Re:Midi output selection method changeable? 2011/01/11 18:08:55 (permalink)

    Thanks for your reply, I know about changing multiple tracks' outputs, but I was hoping there'd be an easier way.

    I borrowed this version of Sonar X1 from a friend so basically I am using his version as a trial.

    Arvid0

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    Re:Midi output selection method changeable? 2011/01/11 18:47:09 (permalink)
    I can't check right now, but isn't there an option in the MIDI device dialog to change the order? Something like "move selected device(s)" to top?

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    Re:Midi output selection method changeable? 2011/01/11 19:07:17 (permalink)
    Yes, definitely:

    press P -> Midi ->devices and put your default midi out on top of the list
    and you are done


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    Re:Midi output selection method changeable? 2011/01/11 19:11:27 (permalink)
    I just notice I have problems finding the other method in X1:

    How do you route several selected midi tracks to a common new midi output?

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    Re:Midi output selection method changeable? 2011/01/11 21:31:06 (permalink)
    anyone?
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    John
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    Re:Midi output selection method changeable? 2011/01/12 00:38:35 (permalink)
    Use the ctrl key when making a change in any setting for it to be applied to all selected tracks

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    Re:Midi output selection method changeable? 2011/01/12 06:14:34 (permalink)
    Ahh, that was it.
    I was searching nuts in menus and context menus and in the help file.

    Thanks, John!
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    Re:Midi output selection method changeable? 2011/01/12 07:04:46 (permalink)
    Thanks for all the replies!
    My problem still exists though: 
    when I change computers a dialog pops up which says: "The following MIDI devices could not be found. You may reassign them to one of the available devices, or go to Options | MIDI devices to make sure these devices are enabled.".
    So it takes one action to change the outputs, but I was hoping there'd be a way to avoid this pop-up.

    check out my website: http://musicbugsoftware.wordpress.com/ - for GuitarPADS: guitar chord playing software.
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    Re:Midi output selection method changeable? 2011/01/12 07:18:26 (permalink)
    That is because the project you are loading is looking for the devices it had when you created it.

    Actually you can ignore it as a message. But you will have to assign the MIDI devices on the current machine to its devices and the tracks that use it. For example, if you have a MIDI interface and its different from the one on machine you created the project on you should select all the tracks effected by this and output to the device you have on that machine. The same would go for audio devices and so on. It not much different for using a soft synth on one machine and not having that synth on another. X1 will alert you that its missing. 

    Once you do the reassign if you save it you will have the same issue if you open it on a different machine with different devices. 

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    John
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    Re:Midi output selection method changeable? 2011/01/12 08:22:13 (permalink)
    So there's no way around this? I'm asking because Sonar 7 didn't give this message and just used the device which had the same number in your MIDI output list. I am actually using identical hardware synths (Roland XV-5080's) on different machines, but I have different USB-MIDI converters.

    Thanks in advance!
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    Re:Midi output selection method changeable? 2011/01/12 08:33:08 (permalink)
    It was in Sonar 8 and above for sure. I also have a XV 5080, a great synth.

    I know of no way to get around this. Really it doesn't harm anything. Yes one can view it as annoying but it is meant to be helpful. It does alert one to the mismatch and that one will need to assign outs.

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    John
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    Re:Midi output selection method changeable? 2011/01/15 19:52:29 (permalink)
    more ideas anyone?
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    Re:Midi output selection method changeable? 2011/02/16 19:14:31 (permalink)
    I posted the old midi output selection method as a feature request to cakewalk.
    Thanks for all the replies.
    post edited by Arvid0 - 2011/02/16 19:15:51
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    Re:Midi output selection method changeable? 2011/02/16 19:51:19 (permalink)
    Maybe I am not understanding you but I thought I gave you the way to do the MIDI out selection. Select a MIDI out and use ctrl to assign to tracks. Its faster then it was before. 

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    John
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    Re:Midi output selection method changeable? 2011/02/17 04:29:21 (permalink)
    I'm a bit lost here myself. The 'new' method was put in because a lot of people complained about the old one.

    As already stated the pop-up box warning you about missing MIDI devices allows you to re-assign a particular output (synth?) for another en masse or you can choose to completely ignore it, but then you'll need to re-assign it manually.

    It's no different to the old method except that you have control over what output gets re-assigned where - as opposed to an output being arbitrarily assigned somewhere else. It also uses MIDI device names as opposed to port numbers, apart from that it serves the same purpose but with user control.

    A much better system IMHO.
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    Re:Midi output selection method changeable? 2011/02/17 05:18:52 (permalink)
    Yes it's a good system, but everything used to work automatically. So now you have control over which port gets reassigned, but it would be nice if it could also do it automatically (as before). This has to be toggleable of course. I know it's not that big a deal, but it would be nice to have the option. 

    check out my website: http://musicbugsoftware.wordpress.com/ - for GuitarPADS: guitar chord playing software.
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    Re:Midi output selection method changeable? 2011/02/17 05:37:28 (permalink)
    Yes it used to happen automatically, but unfortunately it would automatically make the routings I didn't want it to make. I guess it's not a big deal if you only have the odd one or two ports attached but if you have several it was a nightmare.

    The new system still makes the routing/selection changes but you need to tell it what to change from and to first, or not at all if you click cancel.
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    Re:Midi output selection method changeable? 2011/04/01 12:37:07 (permalink)
    The reassign missing MIDI devices is not working in X1b x64.  I assign an available MIDI device, but when I access the track no MIDI device is selected.
    It's weird because it is the same device.  The original file was created in Win XP x32 and the problem occurs while trying to open in Windows 7 x64.  I get the "Reassign Missing MIDI Devices" message even if the devices and their order are the same.  Maybe the name is different because the XP driver is x32 and the Windows 7 one is x64.
    Regardless of the inability to recognize that it is the same device, it should assign the "new" device, but it doesn't.
    Is anyone else having the same problem?
    Thanks,
    Sergio
    post edited by sergiobklyn - 2011/04/01 13:56:53
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    Re:Midi output selection method changeable? 2011/04/01 13:30:15 (permalink)
    Arvid0


    Yes it's a good system, but everything used to work automatically. So now you have control over which port gets reassigned, but it would be nice if it could also do it automatically (as before). This has to be toggleable of course. I know it's not that big a deal, but it would be nice to have the option. 
     
     
    CW, please don't go back to the old way. For those of us with numerous ports/devices it was awful. It took so many years to get it fixed.
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