Mixed In Sonar-hiphop/urban check it out

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2008/10/30 23:55:23 (permalink)

Mixed In Sonar-hiphop/urban check it out

Hi Guys.
This is my first time posting in the forum ( the song forum that is )

I did a mixoff last week on GS for a young group call Transition, the winner as not yet been announced.
I had great comments so far, i would like to get yours also.

Two things before you listend to the track though.

1- The Vox need automations. There's alot of Ps and Bs popping out... It was not a can-you-get-the-Ps-out-of-my-lead-vox contest but an overall balance contest so i figured i could let it slip. Plus the song will not get release so...

2- It's got about 3 db of limiting ( GR ) yes i'm a victime of the loudness war, i know ;) but if it gets me the gig... why not, right ???

http://soundcloud.com/alxi/up-in-the-air-mix-3-vox-timming

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    Legion
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    RE: Mixed In Sonar-hiphop/urban check it out 2008/10/31 02:54:16 (permalink)
    Very nice and smooth mix. 3 db of limiting GR is nothing (depending on the compression of the individuel parts off course) so don't worry. Urban music don't depend that much on dynamic range as long as you get a nice punch wich you definitely have in this mix.
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    alxi
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    RE: Mixed In Sonar-hiphop/urban check it out 2008/10/31 10:54:39 (permalink)
    Thanks Legion

    The 3 db limiting GR thing actually came from a more experienced engineer. He told me that it would give the cutomer a more representive level of the song once it will be mastered. I also think it gives a better first impression wihout beeing to squash.

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    RE: Mixed In Sonar-hiphop/urban check it out 2008/10/31 11:00:19 (permalink)
    Sounds nice mate. Liking the soundscape :D

    My only crits are that i think that the track could do with some real drums & perhaps drop the tempo just a little so you dont have to rush the vocal too much. That said the part around 2.30 is pretty nice, so maybe a tempo drift into that part then back down?
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    RE: Mixed In Sonar-hiphop/urban check it out 2008/10/31 11:09:22 (permalink)
    Love the stereo squeal sample at :08.
    Could use some pitch correction in the opening vocal notes.
    Don't like the drum change at 2:20. Stick with the original one you used earlier.
    Snare could stand a more pronounced attack, maybe up a db or two.
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    RE: Mixed In Sonar-hiphop/urban check it out 2008/10/31 12:43:18 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: thebiglongy

    Sounds nice mate. Liking the soundscape :D

    My only crits are that i think that the track could do with some real drums & perhaps drop the tempo just a little so you dont have to rush the vocal too much. That said the part around 2.30 is pretty nice, so maybe a tempo drift into that part then back down?


    Thanks.
    It's not my song... i'm just the mix engineer so any change in tempo or drum sounds weren't my call.

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    alxi
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    RE: Mixed In Sonar-hiphop/urban check it out 2008/10/31 12:53:25 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: jamesyoyo

    Love the stereo squeal sample at :08.
    Could use some pitch correction in the opening vocal notes.
    Don't like the drum change at 2:20. Stick with the original one you used earlier.
    Snare could stand a more pronounced attack, maybe up a db or two.


    Thanks.
    I Totally agree. The signer was off at a few places in the song. But like i said in the 1st Post the vox still needs a bit of work and the aim was more to let them ear what i can do rather then make the perfect mix. I Also agree for the snare but we were provided with a snare and hihat on the same track... any tweaks i do to the snares reflects in the hihat so i tryed to make the best of it.

    You guys are great. If i knew that i would get such feedback here i would've post some mixes earlier.
    I'm off for the day. I will have to return the favor and come back to listend to a few songs

    Happy Halloween

    -Alxi-
    post edited by alxi - 2008/10/31 12:57:55

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    RE: Mixed In Sonar-hiphop/urban check it out 2008/10/31 13:04:55 (permalink)
    Well if i t's not ur song then suggest to them ;) tell them it may well sound better lol.

    Otherwise, as said, nice job but get those vox v-vocalled.
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    RE: Mixed In Sonar-hiphop/urban check it out 2008/11/01 03:22:35 (permalink)
    alxi, this is a little different... and yet the same! I like it alot! Nice, full sound, clean mix, nice backing tracks, nice production. Really like the structure of the tune as well... Definately marketable.
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    RE: Mixed In Sonar-hiphop/urban check it out 2008/11/01 11:12:17 (permalink)
    Thanks Keith, really appreciated

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    RE: Mixed In Sonar-hiphop/urban check it out 2008/11/01 15:32:48 (permalink)
    Alxi I think you've done a really good job on this mix. Sounds like there might have been some challenges with getting it were it's at now? In either case, I liked the mix. I like the song as well, very catchy and kept me locked into it the whole time as well as the soundscape as Chris stated. Tell Transition they did a great job on this song and best wishes to them. They're pretty talented, good lyrics as well.

    If I had a nit, I would want to pull back the snare or have one with a lower pitch.

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    RE: Mixed In Sonar-hiphop/urban check it out 2008/11/01 15:45:29 (permalink)
    Thanks Musiccontinuum.

    I'll pass the word to Transition. Lower snare hein , kind of more rock-ish ??

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    RE: Mixed In Sonar-hiphop/urban check it out 2008/11/01 16:24:27 (permalink)
    Hum, rock-ish might be right...I found what I'm referring to here Loopmasters, listen to Hip Hop Beats Drum Loop 2. But I was listen to a few other beats and they had the same type of snare, so maybe it's just a preference (normally is isn't it?).

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    RE: Mixed In Sonar-hiphop/urban check it out 2008/11/01 21:00:40 (permalink)
    Niiiice... yes it's kind of phat, a bit more agressive yet smooth at the same time.. really like that sound, it's got attitude. Like i said in a previous post.. it's not my song so i won't be changing the sample but it's always interresting to foundout what people would be doing if they were the ones behind the desk ( i actually don't own a ''desk'' exept the one that i put my computer Screen on.. but that's an other story lol )

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    RE: Mixed In Sonar-hiphop/urban check it out 2008/11/02 00:07:03 (permalink)
    I think it's a great job! I can tell a lot of work went into this!
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    RE: Mixed In Sonar-hiphop/urban check it out 2008/11/02 00:09:55 (permalink)
    Yep, understood your just the master-messenger, if you will. What did you use to master it? Was it recorded in Sonar or something else?

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    RE: Mixed In Sonar-hiphop/urban check it out 2008/11/02 01:27:19 (permalink)
    Thanks mama bear

    As far as recording goes i would have to confirm with the group but i think it was in PT. It was mix by me in Sonar with the average plugins and some freeware. Wasn't realy mastered. I just put a Limiter on the master buss for something like 3db of GR but i do take a listend with the limiter on from time to time while mixing to make sure i'm in the right direction and that nothing is eating up too much headroom. So at the end of the mix wether ( Pretty sure i spell that wrong ) the limiter is on or not , exept for volume and a bit of compression , you don't really ear a difference.

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