Monitor Button Error

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2009/05/18 17:39:38 (permalink)

Monitor Button Error

When I'm recording My Monitors just stop giving me sound randomly and I have to click the monitor button off and back on to get it to work again. Any idea on how to solve this issue?
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    RE: Monitor Button Error 2009/05/18 17:48:46 (permalink)
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    RE: Monitor Button Error 2009/05/18 18:53:55 (permalink)
    Buy new monitors or a new power amp. One of them is bad. Monitors just dont shut off for no reason and theres is no settings in soanr to fix monitors.
    also, not that it matters, but you could have given up the type of monitos and if there passive or active, but this is most likely irrelevent. Check your power sourse's

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    RE: Monitor Button Error 2009/05/18 19:33:01 (permalink)
    Its not the monitors that are turning off. It just randomly stops. The monitor is still active but no sound until I turn it off and then back on again. Its for sure a software issue. PLEASE HELP ME!
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    RE: Monitor Button Error 2009/05/18 19:47:39 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: EminentAndrew

    Its not the monitors that are turning off. It just randomly stops. The monitor is still active but no sound until I turn it off and then back on again. Its for sure a software issue. PLEASE HELP ME!

    This sounds, ever so slightly like an "issue" I have with "what I'm using for monitors". There's a switch on the back on the units that engages a circuit that shuts down the power amp after a certain amount of time with "no signal". It's designed for applications where you are "flying" the units and you can't easily turn them off. In actuality, their version of "no signal" is pretty darned high...so they shut themselves off at inopportune times.

    My recording setup is kinda "dual use"...meaning...we watch movies on it too. So, when there's a long quiet section of the movie and the monitors cut out...I walk over to the MIDI keyboard and bang on it, so the resulting audio spike will wake the monitors up again.

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    RE: Monitor Button Error 2009/05/18 19:53:03 (permalink)
    So how do you have things routed? What is the setup and how are you monitoring? What version of Sonar and any thing else that may help?

    Under what is the setup please note what you have as monitors. What sort of audio interface.

    Under how you have things routed what is your signal path?

    Under odds and ends is your computer schizophrenic?

    That last question is gratuitous.

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    RE: Monitor Button Error 2009/05/18 20:10:23 (permalink)
    Its for sure a software issue. PLEASE HELP ME!

    I'm sure its not. Im sure its your hardware and the way you set it up. Have you read the help section on drop outs?? Read it and go thru it, if you insist on not giving info needed and asked
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    RE: Monitor Button Error 2009/05/18 20:20:17 (permalink)
    well you need to be more specific..

    if your speakers are active.. well they could be switching them self off to stop them being damaged (anti clip)

    it could be 101 different things.. even the cables your using..
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    RE: Monitor Button Error 2009/05/18 20:28:40 (permalink)
    Hi Andrew, What the folks here are driving at is that we need a deal more info to help you out. What sound card/device are you running. Windows version and software version are vital. What drivers are you using ASIO, WDM, MME?

    I had a similar problem with my Firewire Project mix i/o. It would play back fine but during record it would make a real motorboat noise. Turned out to be the need for a new TI chipset firewire card for my PC. But.. it could be so many thing we need to get a feel for your setup. If you mean the problem is sorted by switch the speakers and/or amp on and off. Then we may be looking at a very simple speaker cutout problem. What are your monitors?

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    RE: Monitor Button Error 2009/05/18 22:18:09 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: EminentAndrew

    and I have to click the monitor button off and back on to get it to work again

    What monitor button?


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    RE: Monitor Button Error 2009/05/18 22:31:40 (permalink)
    Its for sure a software issue. PLEASE HELP ME!
    If powering the monitors off and then back on cures the problem then there is no way that it's a software problem. SONAR has no way of knowing if the monitors are on or off.

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    RE: Monitor Button Error 2009/05/19 11:44:21 (permalink)
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    RE: Monitor Button Error 2009/05/19 11:48:00 (permalink)
    Can you answer just a few of the questions asked above. Like routings and sound card set up? Help youself help us to help you

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    RE: Monitor Button Error 2009/05/19 11:48:04 (permalink)
    Which "Monitor Button" are you talking about? That's one of the questions people have been asking, and I for one still don't know.

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    RE: Monitor Button Error 2009/05/19 12:42:51 (permalink)
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    RE: Monitor Button Error 2009/05/19 14:35:33 (permalink)
    that's the INPUT ECHO button. it's used to route the current track back to the output during recording and it gives an echo based on your latency.

    this won't solve or cause a "random" on/off of the monitors. it will only give you an echo of the input back into the output.

    what is your input setup? what are you recording? you're not very forthcoming with information for people here who are trying to help you.


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    RE: Monitor Button Error 2009/05/19 16:31:53 (permalink)
    Interesting that I see in the picture of the Input Echo Button that the track is not solid but shows an outline of the wave form. Could it be muted?

    Andrew you have your own terminology which is not all that helpful. We understand Sonar speak here. That button is often called the monitor button yet that is not its name nor how it functions. Beagle explained it nicely.

    I don't see how Sonar can cause your monitors to cut off the way you describe. It does occur to me that you may have powered monitors that are sound sensitive and will turn on when they detect a signal. If this is so it could be that the output to them is not loud enough. But that is just a guess. Further info will be very helpful.

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    RE: Monitor Button Error 2009/05/19 16:53:13 (permalink)
    Recording and editing track layers I sometimes accidentally (I have no idea of what happens) turn some clips, and sometimes parts of a clip to show only outlines of the waveform. They get muted and I've not once succeeded in making them audible again. I've always had to just delete them.

    So it might well be the problem here that the OP isn't familiar with the functions of his monitors (maybe they're triggered by audio signal?). On the other hand "My monitors stop giving me sound" does not actually mean 100% sure that the monitors are off. They may be functioning normally, but there's no signal. Unfortunately the OP is not able to describe the situation accurately enough.

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    RE: Monitor Button Error 2009/05/19 16:55:46 (permalink)
    Perhaps a short in one of the speaker cables.

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    RE: Monitor Button Error 2009/05/19 16:57:13 (permalink)
    yuo dont need input echo to hear an audio track and as John pointed out, the whole clip is muted. Unmute it and youll hear it. Input echo or input monitoring as you call it, has Nothing to do with your issue
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    RE: Monitor Button Error 2009/05/19 17:21:20 (permalink)
    I'll bet he's dragged the mute tool across part of the audio track, so parts are muted and other parts are audible giving the illusion that the monitors are cutting out when it's a signal issue.

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    RE: Monitor Button Error 2009/05/19 17:23:06 (permalink)
    I thought of that too. It would be nice if he would come back a little more often.

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    RE: Monitor Button Error 2009/05/19 19:10:29 (permalink)
    It does look muted.

    I've accidently muted when pulling teeth
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    RE: Monitor Button Error 2009/05/20 12:49:13 (permalink)
    I wonder if he fixed it.

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    RE: Monitor Button Error 2009/05/20 12:50:16 (permalink)
    I believe we will get an answer in two days

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