Monitorizer: How is it supposed to be used

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2016/01/17 16:33:32 (permalink)

Monitorizer: How is it supposed to be used

HI,
 
I had forgotten about it but finally give it a good today.
 
What is the goal of it? Is it meant to be turned on when listening
thru headphones? etc., etc.
 
As you can see I have no clue what to do with it
 
Note: The A/B switch mutes the track when the light is off (expected behavior?)
 
Thanks for any information.
 
Mario
 
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    Anderton
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    Re: Monitorizer: How is it supposed to be used 2016/01/17 21:33:08 (permalink)
    Click here and go to page 9. If you still have questions after reading the eZine, circle back.

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    Re: Monitorizer: How is it supposed to be used 2016/01/18 00:05:24 (permalink)
    Firstly, it is important to understand that it is a send effect. This means the results are meant to be mixed with a clean signal. So when you hit the A/B button it should mute. That is by design.

    Next, you can open each effect in the effect chain (thanks Craig) and see what values change when you adjust the controls. Control clicking the effects allows you to open more than one at a time.

    Set the controls for the heart of the sun and you are good to go.

    I have experimented some with the effect and learned some things along the way. I would take an example where I had to make an edit after trying it in a different listening environment and try to replicate the problem. For example hearing the mix 150 feet from the speakers, or in a car, or in a crowded room...

    I found I often needed more EQ adjustments than Craig built into the effect. I believe you can customize the chain and make copies that suit your needs, right Craig? Then you can have those copies on the shelf for when you have to do hurried work.

    Largely, the effect makes it easy to mix in a slightly delayed version which has a little of the inverted phase left channel in the right ear and vice versa. This is an attempt at hearing what different room reflections might do to your mix.

    I can't remember, is there a verb too? Maybe it's a delay? Might be. The EQ is largely a low pass filter.

    I want to add that I love this effect chain not because Craig made it perfectly. I love it because he has shown us all what to do. This isn't small. It is huge. From this vista, we can see where we need to go and how to get there. There is no perfect when it comes to environment emulators for headphone mixes. You have to choose where you want it to sound awesome... MP3 players, bars, department stores, elevators, movies, on-hold music, ring tones, living rooms... Then mix for that, and balance for the others.
    post edited by gswitz - 2016/01/18 08:57:57

    StudioCat > I use Windows 10 and Sonar Platinum. I have a touch screen.
    I make some videos. This one shows how to do a physical loopback on the RME UCX to get many more equalizer nodes.
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    Re: Monitorizer: How is it supposed to be used 2016/01/18 15:29:54 (permalink)
    Hi
    While we are on the subject!
    Having completed a mix I presume the Monitorizer should be switched off/bypassed before actually exporting the mix? As you don't want the Monitorizer effect part of the mix?
     
    Got my stupid head on today and just need clarification :)
     
    Thanks in advance.

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    Re: Monitorizer: How is it supposed to be used 2016/01/18 16:29:14 (permalink)
    Since you're just sending a copy the audio from the Master track, to the Monitorizer track, you do not need to remove the plugin during mixdown.  The monitorizer track is separate track, and is being sent directly out to your interface for listening only, if configured as described.
     
    sjd
    Hi
    While we are on the subject!
    Having completed a mix I presume the Monitorizer should be switched off/bypassed before actually exporting the mix? As you don't want the Monitorizer effect part of the mix?
     
    Got my stupid head on today and just need clarification :)
     
    Thanks in advance.





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    Re: Monitorizer: How is it supposed to be used 2016/01/18 16:39:37 (permalink)
    I turn it off. No surprises.

    Honestly, it isn't a thing I turn on and leave on. I monitor with it to get flavors of other environments. Then turn it off.

    I do sometimes use output EQ from my interface that I leave on for hours. That is another subject.
    post edited by gswitz - 2016/01/19 07:08:20

    StudioCat > I use Windows 10 and Sonar Platinum. I have a touch screen.
    I make some videos. This one shows how to do a physical loopback on the RME UCX to get many more equalizer nodes.
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    Re: Monitorizer: How is it supposed to be used 2016/01/19 00:05:49 (permalink)
    gswitz
    I want to add that I love this effect chain not because Craig made it perfectly. I love it because he has shown us all what to do. This isn't small. It is huge. From this vista, we can see where we need to go and how to get there. There is no perfect when it comes to environment emulators for headphone mixes. You have to choose where you want it to sound awesome... MP3 players, bars, department stores, elevators, movies, on-hold music, ring tones, living rooms... Then mix for that, and balance for the others.



    You totally get it! These are all about tools, and how you apply them is what matters. Thanks for the kind words.
     
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    The first 3 books in "The Musician's Guide to Home Recording" series are available from Hal Leonard and http://www.reverb.com. Listen to my music on http://www.YouTube.com/thecraiganderton, and visit http://www.craiganderton.com. Thanks!
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    gswitz
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    Re: Monitorizer: How is it supposed to be used 2016/01/19 07:04:00 (permalink)
    Thank you, Craig! You are a great teacher.

    I appreciate that you share what you can.

    I have TH3 and appreciate the presets. I also picked up a used FCB1010 foot controller that I have been experimenting with.

    It is true that I'm often likely to just use an amp and cab and go from there. :-)

    I've read about and experimented with using different amps for different frequency ranges by using a splitter. I don't often take the time to set it up though.

    I want to add that I have auditioned mixes in a variety of environments for years. The idea is to be able to know what things need touching up for those environments faster. I often listen at a healthy volume, but when my wife and kid are there, the volume drops substantially and they talk over it. It is interesting to discover whether the mix can be enjoyed at low levels or not.

    It is hard to emulate this experience with headphones.
    post edited by gswitz - 2016/01/19 08:19:43

    StudioCat > I use Windows 10 and Sonar Platinum. I have a touch screen.
    I make some videos. This one shows how to do a physical loopback on the RME UCX to get many more equalizer nodes.
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