Mono stereo recording revisted for S852P

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2010/01/03 20:54:21 (permalink)

Mono stereo recording revisted for S852P

I found the July 2008 threads about this subject, great stuff! Seemed that the only way to be set up for mono recording was a template.
1.  Has anything changed with that? It is 1&1/2 years later.
2. I use mostly softsynths (except for all guitars and all vocals)
I am a bit confused about the softsynths and FX with regard to mono recording. Any help is appreciated
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    Re:Mono stereo recording revisted for S852P 2010/01/03 20:58:56 (permalink)
    I for one don't understand your question.

    To record in mono select a mono port.

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    Re:Mono stereo recording revisted for S852P 2010/01/03 21:14:16 (permalink)
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    I for one don't understand your question.

    To record in mono select a mono port.

    In the older thread it was stated that you had to do this everytime(or use templates). I was wondering if we now had an option to default to mono?
    That was part one.
    Part two was:
    It was stated that some softsynths and FX has "stereo" charicteristics so to speak. Makes me feel , since I use softsynths for everything but gtrs and vox that I may be losing something? what I don't know. That was why I asked.
    Sorry to be so vague, I cannot think of any other way to ask these questions
     

     
     
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    Re:Mono stereo recording revisted for S852P 2010/01/04 12:06:33 (permalink)
    There is still no option to make new tracks default to a mono interleave. You can, however, still define a mono track template. There are additional benefits to using track templates, such as also being able to specify routing and effects. I used to grumble about the stereo default, but not since I got into the habit of using templates.


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    Re:Mono stereo recording revisted for S852P 2010/01/04 21:26:27 (permalink)
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    There is still no option to make new tracks default to a mono interleave. You can, however, still define a mono track template. There are additional benefits to using track templates, such as also being able to specify routing and effects. I used to grumble about the stereo default, but not since I got into the habit of using templates.

    OK-So templates it is. Would I need to mess with the softsynths? I mean-my drums, Bass and keyboard players are me tapping ouit what I want on my Midi Controller. -Then before/after I record the vocals and Gits I bounce the SSynths. So I guess as long as I bounce and select mono I'll be OK.
    Curious-I have not been able to save my bounce prefs as the default? Can this be done? IOW, mono/use 64 bit engine.
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    Re:Mono stereo recording revisted for S852P 2010/01/05 00:43:20 (permalink)
    As a general rule, mono tracks are easier to mix and to place in the panorama than stereo tracks. Consequently, stereo tracks should be reserved for true stereo sources only. This idea makes sense with bass, electric guitar and voice. Where you sometimes hit a snag is with synthesizers.

    Synthesizer patches are very often stereo, but in many cases the stereo is gratuitous and unnecessary.  I usually bounce them stereo and then take a close look at the waveforms. If the left and right channels look nearly identical, it probably isn't benefiting from being stereo, so I'll re-bounce to mono. If the two channels appear to be quite different, I'll still bounce to mono but then audition it closely with headphones to see if the patch has suffered from being folded to mono.

    Occasionally, a patch may not translate well into mono. It's good to listen to it both ways, and if the mono version isn't thin or weird-sounding, go mono with it.

    If you do end up using stereo tracks with your soft synths, the Channel Tools plugin is your friend. Use it to pan the track rather than the pan control. It will give your stereo tracks much better definition.

    As for saving bounce defaults, I don't know that there is a way to save preferences. IIRC it seems to me that I have to specify them each time. But I'm not at my DAW right now so I can't confirm that.


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    Re:Mono stereo recording revisted for S852P 2010/01/05 01:11:01 (permalink)
    I don't know when I use a mono input I get a mono track. There seems to be two things going on here the track interleave and the input. If you create or insert a new track it may default to a stereo input because that is what is set as the default for input in audio options. However if you choose a mono input the track will have its interleave go to mono.

    As to how to make a default mono input when inserting a new track I think this is due to the way ones driver is seen by Sonar. Normally ones driver will be listed as stereo 1 and 2 then as mono 1 and mono 2. Its because the first listing is stereo that a new track is stereo and not mono.

    This could be changed if we made a feature request to allow custom listings as we can with MIDI ports.

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    Re:Mono stereo recording revisted for S852P 2010/01/05 08:25:59 (permalink)
    OK thanks BF and John. I will fool around with the different scenarios. I guess do it and then listen is the best option. If I cannot here something missing, then most likely it's not. This all started for me because I have read many places on the web lately stating that mono is easier to mix and I need all the help I can get. I am getting pretty close to having a song of mine finished so I can post and really find out all Imdid wrong :-)
    Thanks Guys
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