More Midi Files For Addictive Drums

Yes, it's a great value.  I love this time of year.  I am wishing that Melodyne Editor will be half price for X3 customers for Christmas. 

I tried the BFD demo.  No doubt, it's a great piece of software.  Not sure if it is so great that it justifies spending full price if you already have a product so similar.  I would love to hear actual examples of people who have owned AD or similar level drum program, switched to BD3 and suddenly had their tracks sound significantly better.  The actual samples in AD are arguably just as good as BFD although BFD has more. AD seems to take the quality over quantity approach.  BFD also holds a big advantage in areas like pattern creation.  With that said, I would opt to buy another fxpansion product like Geist to increase my range of drum types over BFD in this situation. For me, AD +Geist > BFD3

Where are these half price packs? afaics they are the usual price  $19.95 ???

dubdisciple
I tried the BFD demo.  No doubt, it's a great piece of software.  Not sure if it is so great that it justifies spending full price if you already have a product so similar.  I would love to hear actual examples of people who have owned AD or similar level drum program, switched to BD3 and suddenly had their tracks sound significantly better.  The actual samples in AD are arguably just as good as BFD although BFD has more. AD seems to take the quality over quantity approach.  BFD also holds a big advantage in areas like pattern creation.  With that said, I would opt to buy another fxpansion product like Geist to increase my range of drum types over BFD in this situation. For me, AD +Geist > BFD3

+1000 for Geist. I just bought it in the sale and am finding it to be one of the most well designed pieces of music software I've ever used! As a drum sequencer it's an amazing tool, especially if you're into electronic styles. I don't think I'll ever use the Sonar step sequencer for drums again (sorry Cake!). It's like everything I wanted Battery to be but wasn't (although I still love Battery as well - the two of them are a good compliment). With these, Addictive Drums, the NI drummer libraries and Jamstix I think I'm sorted for drum software for the next 10 years!

Yeah, go to xlnaudio.com and click on "all products".  Scroll down a little bit and you can see all the MIDI paks (including the two free downloads).

I tried the BFD demo.  No doubt, it's a great piece of software.  Not sure if it is so great that it justifies spending full price if you already have a product so similar.  I would love to hear actual examples of people who have owned AD or similar level drum program, switched to BD3 and suddenly had their tracks sound significantly better.  The actual samples in AD are arguably just as good as BFD although BFD has more. AD seems to take the quality over quantity approach.  BFD also holds a big advantage in areas like pattern creation.  With that said, I would opt to buy another fxpansion product like Geist to increase my range of drum types over BFD in this situation. For me, AD +Geist > BFD3

If you're happy with what you have that's fine. I've noticed a lot of people are raving about AD now that it's included in X3 and it's a great piece of marketing for XLN Audio but it's not in the same league as BFD3. I can only think of 1 thing AD has that I'd like to see in BFD3 and that's an pitch envelope. I'd forgotten AD had one until recently. I put it up as a feature request on the fx forum and Skot_FX said there is one coming. I don't know quite what it is but every time I hear AD it sounds too processed and fake to me now.
Like I said I used to love it until I got BFD2.
 
It does tend to sound much better to me with the fx off so perhaps that's what makes it sound a little fake. I just had a listen to the reverb and there was a horrible twangy ringing to it that sounded really cheap.
 
 

I would love to hear actual examples of people who have owned AD or similar level drum program, switched to BD3 and suddenly had their tracks sound significantly better.

 
I used to think that but the problem is it's far too subjective, a not so good programmer/mixer/engineer can easily make BFD3 sound awful just as a good one can make AD sound great so it's not the best test. Most of my stuff on line was originally done with BFD2 but is now using BFD3, you won't hear any difference though as it's the same kits and effects and mixes.
 
Ultimately the best test is to try it out for your self but you really do have to spend some time with it to appreciate it's depth.
It goes far deeper than AD and has so many more features, the drum editor is very powerful with some great tools that sonar doesn't have.
 
 
Steve
 

twaddle, I was not disagreeing with you per say.  I think BFD3 does win in a head to head matchup and certainly would recommend  it over AD if one owned neither. I just would not send a satisfied AD owner to BFD3.   I was just giving the humble opinion that I think if you are going to spend extra money  when you have something so similar, you may as well expand your drum repertoire in ways neither BFD or AD do instead of just getting a slightly better version of what you already own.  Too many musicians spend a lot of time  and money buying absurd amounts of similar products .

Hmmm, the Step Sequencer is my biggest chokepoint (i.e. PITA) now and I never had heard of Geist before. I just went searching and it says it is 60% off now ($99 vs $249).

 

Both Geist and tremor are 60% off and they are both excellent although quite different beasts.
I'm very tempted to get one of them I'm just not sure which.
 
Steve

Tremor is best if you are looking for a powerful analog style drum machine where as Geist is more of a sampling workstation

dubdisciple
Geist has a great step sequencer and is a great sampler and slicer too.

These 3 features alone are incredibly appealing! As I delve into Geist more it comes across similar to a "software version of Maschine." I am chatting with my drummer friend I talked into getting a TD-9 kit and sent a message to them saying... "Maybe I will just have you bring up your kit so I can sample my kit from it." LOL, I spent quite a bit of time tailoring a kit on that thing but cannot easily replicate it yet.
 
BTW... the Tremor has an audio sample called "dublike"
 
For quick clarification... Geist and Tremor are both $99... Geist is 60% off and Tremor is 33% off.

twaddle
I'm not going to knock AD as it is what it is and I used to love it but if you've not tried any of the fxpansion drums (Eco & BFD2)
there is now a demo of BFD3 available so there's no reason not to give it a go and see what all the fuss is about.
 
For me it is now without doubt the most comprehensive, full featured, realistic and best sounding drum vst you can get.
Here's a link to their demo BFD3 Demo
 
Steve

I knew it :-)
knew you couldn't resist ;)
 
your right twaddle bfd is a great drum sim.
 
happy holidays man.
 
Chuck

CakeAlexS
I don't think I'll ever use the Sonar step sequencer for drums again (sorry Cake!). It's like everything I wanted Battery to be but wasn't (although I still love Battery as well - the two of them are a good compliment).
 
Noted. I used Sonar step sequencer to today for laughs and after a while had enough. The functionality is crying for a total overhaul.
I've recently bough Maschine and Komplete so I guess I'm going towards the NI route even though I haven't even loaded battery yet or figured out Maschine properly... one big ball of confusion right now, I just haven't had the time to get my head round it (other software to learn first).

Eli Krantzberg has a Battery 4 tutorial on Groove3 which I'm about to watch, no doubt up to his usual excellent standard. I haven't installed my Komplete 9 update yet but I'd like to get up to speed with the new Battery features, it looks pretty good. And I'm pretty sure it would be very easy to drive Battery with Geist if you so desired. 

I was looking at that midipak myself. For 9.99 I may just risk it

I knew it :-)
knew you couldn't resist ;)
 
your right twaddle bfd is a great drum sim.

 
I tried Chuck, I really did try
 
Steve
 
 

sharke
EDIT: I just noticed I pretty much repeated what dubdisciple said. Oh well, it bears repeating twice. 

Hehe... it doesn't hurt to be told twice. I am actually glad you both had popped in here, when I first saw dub mention "Geist" I saw it as the German word and never clicked as a "product" until you chimed in. I just got it this afternoon