Kamikaze
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More Prochannels
EDIT: This isn't a feature request, so it's not about voting. I've emailed both suppliers, to request their consideration. So please if you like the idea, take a moment to do the same. Also I've not logged under 'Software' as it's more about the ProChannel aspect for me, and that's Sonar. I don't know what work the Cake Management in this field, but I hope the thread stimulate some ideas or activity (I'm not accusing them of doing nothing, before anyone jumps on me for that). https://www.xlnaudio.com/supporthttp://www.plugandmix.com/about/contact ============================================================== We currently get ProChannels from: Cake Softube Overloud Boz Looking at the XLN (And being XLN already have a relationship with Cake) Transient Designer yerday, I thought that could be a Prochannel, maybe with a flyout option if you need to to see the dynamics display.  I emailed them the suggestion. Does anyone else feel the same about certain suppliers that have some devices that would easily jump on the ProChannel train? (I've seen one before, but their name escapes me)
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Kamikaze
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Re: More Prochannels
2016/09/03 00:06:20
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Kamikaze
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Re: More Prochannels
2016/09/03 04:03:28
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☄ Helpfulby RSMCGUITAR 2016/09/03 06:03:00
Looks like they'd fit well. I don't know the actual size of the plugs though 
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Re: More Prochannels
2016/09/03 05:57:48
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If they'd do that I'd buy the whole thing in a heartbeat
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Kamikaze
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Re: More Prochannels
2016/09/03 06:03:28
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If cakewalk did a deal with them so they were only in PC format, maybe they could arrange a better deal from them, than the 40 for $250
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Kamikaze
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Re: More Prochannels
2016/09/03 06:16:31
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It would double the number of Pro Channels in one go. Improve your stereo image  The Fender Bassman Sound  Vintage Tape & Tube Emulator Plug-in  Abbey Road Style Brightness Plug-in  The MARSHALL Amp Sound  The MESA BOOGIE Amp sound  Deep Chorus Ensemble Effect  Sub Bass and Harmonics Enhancer  Silky Smooth Flanger Effect  Vintage Multi-Stage Phaser Effect  Hendrix's Uni-Vibe based Effect  Bit Crusher Style Plug-in  Extreme EQ when needed  EMT Based Gold Plate Analog Reverb  Eventide based Reverb  Roland Dimension D Type Effect  Smooth Distortion Effect  Echoplex Based Tape Delay Effect  Two Channel Electro-Optical Compressor/Limiter  Extreme EQ when needed  Granular Processing Plug-in  EQ with presence  Add digital filth to your tracks  Stereo Bass Booster  Great Leslie  The VOX Amp sound  A Signal Booster with Warmth  Classic vintage filter pedal  Multi-tap madness  The Virtual WAH-WAH Pedal  Octaver Divider Plug-in  An unique Ring Modulator  Warm Vintage Compressor  API Like Classic EQ  Great Sounding Retro Filter  Great Sounding Limiter  Hardcore Screaming Distortion  Stereo Width Enlargement  Talk Box and Vocorder  6 Classic amp tones  SPL based Transient Designer  Versatile Tremolo and Panning Effect  Easy to Use Level Maximizer Plug-in   Vowel overtone comb filter
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Re: More Prochannels
2016/09/03 06:55:00
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 And that's only naming a few  But I would like some more Pro Channels myself (not necessarily the ones mentioned) , so +1 from me. All the best.
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Re: More Prochannels
2016/09/03 07:00:55
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Zargg71
And that's only naming a few
But I would like some more Pro Channels myself (not necessarily the ones mentioned) , so +1 from me.
All the best.
Who would you like to provide pro channels? I'm not saying I want the P&M stuff, but it's just looks so obviously suited. I would pick up some of the things (Unless a udle was a great offer). For new Sonar users though, it would instantly expand their options, and they are easy to use.
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Re: More Prochannels
2016/09/03 07:17:57
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I agree they look like they could fit.
I do not have specific plugin producers in mind, but would like an extended PC family, including delays, more eq's, comps (CA3A?), filters etc.
(Maybe even done in house?)
All the best.
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Re: More Prochannels
2016/09/03 11:15:45
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☄ Helpfulby mettelus 2016/09/06 12:00:19
You should understand that to the outside world we are a bunch of wayward individuals with a cakewalk cute playpen called the "ProChannel".
Don't expect too much more than a wry grin as they ignore you.
Cake made deals with various plug makers to bring plugs to the ProChannel.
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Kamikaze
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Re: More Prochannels
2016/09/03 11:21:50
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I'm not the first to have emailed P&G, so I'm not expecting action, but just trying to increase the possibility. These are now stock items from them, some of them a few years old. The Bundle price has come down over the years. I figure that being they are all the same format, that converting to a PC would just be a case of making the same edits 40 times. With so many options out their now, then converting may be money for old rope.
XLN reply, but I'm not expecting results either.
If a few people email though, it may be enough to have a look into.
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Re: More Prochannels
2016/09/03 11:30:57
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bitman
You should understand that to the outside world we are a bunch of wayward individuals with a cakewalk cute playpen called the "ProChannel".
Don't expect too much more than a wry grin as they ignore you.
Cake made deals with various plug makers to bring plugs to the ProChannel.
You never know...lifetime updates, lots of new users, and in-app purchases could be influencers.
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Re: More Prochannels
2016/09/03 12:01:52
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I can't imagine any plugin manufacturer not wanting to find more channels (pun intended) for selling their product to the limited number of DAW users, especially if the Bakers help them do the conversion in conjunction with a bundling/reselling agreement.
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Kamikaze
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Re: More Prochannels
2016/09/03 12:06:15
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brundlefly
I can't imagine any plugin manufacturer not wanting to find more channels (pun intended) for selling their product to the limited number of DAW users, especially if the Bakers help them do the conversion in conjunction with a bundling/reselling agreement.
What was I thinking? 
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Re: More Prochannels
2016/09/03 12:22:32
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☄ Helpfulby Klaus 2016/09/03 17:36:11
Anderton in-app purchases
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Re: More Prochannels
2016/09/03 15:56:55
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pwalpwal
Anderton in-app purchases
shudders
Ca2A, Concrete Limiter and PC4K S-type Expander / gate was "in-app" purchases. I would like to see more of them, as paid add ons or (preferably  ) free. All the best.
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Re: More Prochannels
2016/09/03 16:07:30
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Klanghelm's VU-Meter as a ProChannel module would be really great. And most probably quite affordable...
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Re: More Prochannels
2016/09/03 16:21:08
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I've stated repeatedly that BOTH Cake and Vendors were missing HUGE opportunity...
It fell on deaf ears...as we are still here with almost the exact same number of
PC Modules as we had right after it's introduction...
A testament to Cakes market share I guess...
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Re: More Prochannels
2016/09/03 17:05:36
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I am all for Sonar exclusive plugins, but I HATE Pro Channel. I want one way of using VST's. I don't want to have to open Pro Channel to see if there are "hidden" VSTs. I don't want my console strips to double in size when I open Pro Channel. It frustrates me to no end to be forced to learn two ways of entering/editing VSTs. Please find another way to keep VSTs proprietary.
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Re: More Prochannels
2016/09/03 17:28:42
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There's going to be big changes in the future. Now that Cake has opened the door with lifetime updates the whole business will change. Plugins and other processing tools will be paid add-on's. I'm sure that development of these value adding products is in the pipeline. It has to be because they need the revenue stream.
Having said that, if they go to in-app purchases I'm done. I expect that from a free phone game, not professional software for a business.
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Re: More Prochannels
2016/09/03 17:31:05
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scottfa
I am all for Sonar exclusive plugins, but I HATE Pro Channel. I want one way of using VST's. I don't want to have to open Pro Channel to see if there are "hidden" VSTs. I don't want my console strips to double in size when I open Pro Channel. It frustrates me to no end to be forced to learn two ways of entering/editing VSTs. Please find another way to keep VSTs proprietary.
Absolute understandable. But I think this thread is more about 3rd-party plug-ins where a VST version already exists, so you won't be forced to use the PC module. For me, ProChannel is a welcomed addition.
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Re: More Prochannels
2016/09/03 18:19:25
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Gotta agree about in app purchases. That stinks
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Re: More Prochannels
2016/09/03 20:53:42
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I have always been a little confused about what PC modules really are. I find the interface more convenient than adding compression/eq, etc. on the track and having to bring up the GUI separately. For some reason I always thought they were somehow different than other vsts (which doesn't make a lot of sense when I think about it!). From what I am gathering in this thread they are really just vsts with a small enough GUI footprint (and therefore limited number of paramters) to fit into a console strip. Is that whole concept? Could you have more complex PC modules than would present basic controls and fly-out to a standard GUI to access more parameters?
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Re: More Prochannels
2016/09/04 00:04:47
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That's exactly it, Compact VST to fit a width restrictions. The Quad EQ has a fly out, so less common features can be changed from there, and you get use of the bigger eq display
Some come in PC fromat only -ReMatrix
Some come as both PC and standard VST - Breverb
So all XLN would need to do is make the GUI more compact, and add change some coding so that it's recognized as a ProChannel. It's already compact.
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Re: More Prochannels
2016/09/04 00:21:52
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Re: More Prochannels
2016/09/04 00:27:03
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scottfa
I am all for Sonar exclusive plugins, but I HATE Pro Channel. I want one way of using VST's. I don't want to have to open Pro Channel to see if there are "hidden" VSTs. I don't want my console strips to double in size when I open Pro Channel. It frustrates me to no end to be forced to learn two ways of entering/editing VSTs. Please find another way to keep VSTs proprietary.
Absolute understandable.
But I think this thread is more about 3rd-party plug-ins where a VST version already exists, so you won't be forced to use the PC module.
For me, ProChannel is a welcomed addition.
Don't crack have had that budle of 40 for $99. They clearly want more sales. If they did it again at $99 but it only came as a ProChannel, I would buy. But if I wanted both, then I I'd expect the PC version to come with the full VST. These are all ideas, I doubt nothing will com of it I've asked a couple of times in this thread about suggestions of other 3rd parties. The P&M ones simply look made for it,
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Re: More Prochannels
2016/09/04 03:05:35
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scottfa
I am all for Sonar exclusive plugins, but I HATE Pro Channel. I want one way of using VST's. I don't want to have to open Pro Channel to see if there are "hidden" VSTs. I don't want my console strips to double in size when I open Pro Channel. It frustrates me to no end to be forced to learn two ways of entering/editing VSTs. Please find another way to keep VSTs proprietary.
I don't think that ProChannel will be going away anytime soon. However, I recently put forward a proposal in the Feature Requests forum that would address some of those issues: http://forum.cakewalk.com/m3467842.aspx
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Re: More Prochannels
2016/09/04 03:55:10
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I see NOTHING wrong with in-app purchases... that's been the Pro Channel way since day one... "I'm done"???? No one forces anyone to buy them. I would love the option and it's a valuable revenue stream to support Cake's new business model. I too dream of a money free future but Trek ain't here YET! And if u "HATE" the PC, NO-ONE is forcing you to use it. Most love it, me included...and my vst count outside of S4L is pushing a 1000... I routinely use PC as well as other plugs all the time. Love the flexibility. If such deals are in the works, I hope for both bundles and singles... personally I am saturated but might wanna selectively add. Definitely a boon for new users...
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Re: More Prochannels
2016/09/04 13:05:18
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☄ Helpfulby gunboatdiplomacy 2016/09/06 12:45:42
If Cakewalk allows me to conveniently purchase products that are specifically designed for what I am doing, without forcing me, allowing me to decide what I want and just making it easy, well then I am done too. I simply can't believe the audacity an innovative company like Cakewalk has making my life easier. I vow on my word, if Cakewalk keeps doing awesome things by bringing me the tools I need and making it so easy to get them, I will walk away. I hope my sarcasm is not lost, and no actual real malice is interpreted here. I'm just having a bit of fun is all.
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Re: More Prochannels
2016/09/04 13:19:18
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Well I don't use the PC. I would like to use the channel strips provided etc but not at the expense of actually using the clunky PC.
BTW, I don't think you have any idea how many users "love" the PC, "hate" the PC, ignore the PC, or even don't know it exists.
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