More than one multidock?

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2011/03/12 18:25:30 (permalink)

More than one multidock?

Will X1 in future be able to have more than one multi dock?
 
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    Re:More than one multidock? 2011/03/12 18:54:32 (permalink)
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    Re:More than one multidock? 2011/03/12 19:17:28 (permalink)
    No one here knows the answer to that question... and I doubt even Cakewalk knows whether or not they'll add that feature. But you can always suggest it to them...
    http://www.cakewalk.com/s...ct/featurerequest.aspx

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    Re:More than one multidock? 2011/03/12 22:05:33 (permalink)
    for what reason??
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    Re:More than one multidock? 2011/03/12 22:28:49 (permalink)
    drumr


    for what reason??


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    Re:More than one multidock? 2011/03/12 23:34:07 (permalink)
    OK, I'm stumped.  I can't come up with a scenario where more than one multidock would be useful.   Multidock is just the function of parking views in various places - why/how would a second multidock be possible or needed--?

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    Re:More than one multidock? 2011/03/12 23:46:19 (permalink)
    Well for starters I would dock one and float the other. 

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    Re:More than one multidock? 2011/03/12 23:53:39 (permalink)
    I personally don't like multidock with my current monitor. I think I'd like it more if I had a bigger one with a higher resolution. As it is now, I only have a tiny space in between the top/bottom of my screen where I can move things without them docking.

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    Re:More than one multidock? 2011/03/13 00:05:22 (permalink)
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    Well for starters I would dock one and float the other. 


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    Re:More than one multidock? 2011/03/13 00:32:08 (permalink)
    Well I Would put smaller footprint and horizontal-centric windows in the bottom-docked multidock and larger ones and vertical-centric ones in the larger-sized floating dock.

    Or VST UIs in one and the PRV stuff in the other, it's not hard to find uses for multiple docks.

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    Re:More than one multidock? 2011/03/13 00:45:12 (permalink)
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    Well I Would put smaller footprint and horizontal-centric windows in the bottom-docked multidock and larger ones and vertical-centric ones in the larger-sized floating dock.

    Or VST UIs in one and the PRV stuff in the other, it's not hard to find uses for multiple docks.


    hmm, I don't get it.  It doesn't matter, and I'm not arguing with your imagination.  I just can't picture it as being useful.  Oh well!

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    Re:More than one multidock? 2011/03/13 01:00:12 (permalink)
    I think that would defeat the purpose of the multidock, which seems to be a tabbed view for easy switching of whatever feature you are working on.  If you want different multidock views (ie. one stretched across teh bottom and another big on your second screen), that is what screensets are for.  Otherwise you are just cluttering up the worksurface with everything there and stepping on one another.  Or that is how I believe Cake thinks it should work.  But flexiblity should rule, so put in a request.

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    Re:More than one multidock? 2011/03/13 01:01:53 (permalink)
    Well it's like you said earlier, it allows you put windows in "various" places. Obviously a two-monitor or more setup seems more likely to benefit from it.

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    Re:More than one multidock? 2011/03/13 01:09:31 (permalink)
    I wonder if you could dock the second multidock into the first one...Hmmm...

    I keep the multidock on the second monitor and open any views I need inside it and keep the trackview on the other. Works great for me.


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    Re:More than one multidock? 2011/03/13 01:22:51 (permalink)
    OMG IT'S A VORTEX OF DOCKS!

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    Re:More than one multidock? 2011/03/13 09:01:06 (permalink)
    Yeah ... I was thinking about getting all the plugin GUI tidy out of the way - sorta like a tabbed view ehancement of the old synthrack..

    I did like the tabbed view where you could dock ideas in sonar 8... but find it very inflexible due to location and in number.

    the other dock could be used for PRV / Staff  views / console...

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    Re:More than one multidock? 2011/03/13 14:02:35 (permalink)
    You could dock all of your track FX in one multidock, and all your PRV/Step sequencer views in another dock, etc.


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    Re:More than one multidock? 2011/03/13 14:06:09 (permalink)
    +1 for Multiple MultiDocks. it's a great idea.

    With dual monitors you can have a lot of use for 2 multidocks.
    for example I wish I could have one multidock where the regular multidock is for console and piano roll and another multidock which will be like a tabbed browser for all the VSTs and FXs.
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    Re:More than one multidock? 2011/03/13 14:12:14 (permalink)
    I thought the whole idea with multidock was to get away from multiple open windows and get as much as possible fitted in one easy-to-get-to place..

    I wouldn't want more than one multidock anyway.
    One multidock and a set of nice screensets should be enough.

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    Re:More than one multidock? 2011/03/13 18:59:02 (permalink)
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     I personally don't like multidock with my current monitor. I think I'd like it more if I had a bigger one with a higher resolution. As it is now, I only have a tiny space in between the top/bottom of my screen where I can move things without them docking.

    I recently came across a cool trick to overcome this: hold down Alt whilst moving.




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    Re:More than one multidock? 2011/03/13 19:40:07 (permalink)
    For me I would have my monitor 1 with a MD at the bottom ,and ready for the PRv or loop construction view inside it , Monitor 2 I would have the Console view with a MD at the top and all my plugins nestled in there. Thats one way I would set it up..

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    Re:More than one multidock? 2011/03/13 19:54:53 (permalink)
    Of course multiple docks would require some tweaks to keyboard navigation. 

    I'm so-so about it. If it existed I'm sure I'd use it. After all Adobe apps and Vegas and the like have an almost infinite amount of palette dockability with each other. 

    And even with the Multidock, I often break plugs out so I can keep them "always up" in a corner while I work. 

    Screensets and me are still dubiously circling each other. I get large pauses when switching..sometimes it even hangs. I think I'd actually prefer assigning individual plugs to the num keys so you could pop a specific plugin to the front with one keystroke. 

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    Re:More than one multidock? 2011/03/13 20:09:56 (permalink)
    +1!

    multiple monitors + multiple docks = better workflow (for me!)

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    Re:More than one multidock? 2011/03/13 20:11:01 (permalink)
    I think I'd actually prefer assigning individual plugs to the num keys so you could pop a specific plugin to the front with one keystroke. 




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    Re:More than one multidock? 2014/08/17 16:54:21 (permalink)
    To split modules into groups so that you don't need to click through tabs if you have a bunch of them in there. 
     
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    Re:More than one multidock? 2014/08/20 02:01:42 (permalink)
    Wow, it's weird reading things I wrote so long ago!
    That said, I truly miss SAW+. It had the most dirt-simple "screenset" implementation evar. SHIFT+F-key saved a layout, F-key recalled it. No lag, no crashing. And it instantly allowed 12 layouts of EVERY THING. Screensets now, even like I wrote all those months ago, are buggy as heck. They lag, they hang, they are just a total pain. Plus the weird "you don't have to save" BUT "you have to be IN the new screenset when you edit" is completely backwards. 
     
    All that said, the obvious definition is: plugin UIs in one tabbable window, different editing views in the other. It's extremely obvious, even WITH inline PRV (never use btw), console view (also never use, get over it, it's a dead medium for folk who can't let go of physical hardware...and I say that having learned on them), and all the other views. One last thing: MAKE THE PRV ABLE TO ROTATE 90 DEGREES! Studio One can do it, and it makes ALL the difference learning parts since a piano keyboard goes left to right, not bottom to top. 

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    Re:More than one multidock? 2014/08/20 09:51:49 (permalink)
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    One last thing: MAKE THE PRV ABLE TO ROTATE 90 DEGREES! Studio One can do it, and it makes ALL the difference learning parts since a piano keyboard goes left to right, not bottom to top. 




    While that may better simulate  a real player piano, I'd find it pretty weird to have horizontal chords and notes moving vertically.

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    Re:More than one multidock? 2014/08/20 11:43:03 (permalink)
    Yah, though I wouldn't be surprised if it was easier to acclimate to than you think.
     
    But, I don't play through projects in the PRV anyway, I edit there. I'll play little bits over and over. one of the major streamer programs IIRC goes top-bottom instead of left-right.
     
    I like the idea because it makes it way easier for me to figure out parts. I suspect younger folk will like it because Rock Band and all those games work in a similar fashion.
     

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