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Re: Morning scare.... 2013/10/22 08:52:50 (permalink)
Don't use a stun gun unless you are halfway proficient in open hand self defense.... Karate or some other martial art and have practiced sufficiently to halfway know how to defend and attack close in, and are proficient in the use of a handheld weapon such as a kubaton or a knife..... because the stun gun taser has to make bodily contact to work.  Although some punks will run at the sight of the big blue spark.
 
Don't use fake cameras. Just Don't.   They invite lawsuits and you won't win.  Trust me on this.... I'm in the business and the lawsuits are legendary. So no fake cams.
 
The warrior mind set is crucial as has been pointed out. In any confrontation it is important to understand that this incident could quickly and easily escalate to life and death in seconds. That decision and willingness to use deadly force  must be made before it begins. Hesitate for half a second and you could be on the floor with a sheet over you.
 
This is from farce book.... this is 10 seconds total but the actual event is 1 second while under stress : https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=670841776267356&set=vb.100000246204208&type=2&theater 
 
It happens fast....hesitate and you could be dead.
 
There are training courses as I mentioned earlier, that will do their best to simulate the experience, but in reality, nothing prepares you for such an encounter. Those who are prepared, and who have trained, and are familiar with their weapon of choice, and know it's balance, weight, safety devices, operation, and how it functions are better prepared to have a chance at surviving the encounter than those who have not prepared. You must know that weapon and not have to think about any aspect of it. As stress levels rise, fine motor skill diminish and the conscious mind is focused on survival not operating a safety.... so it must be an auto pilot sort of zen thing at that point....and that comes only from practice.
 
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Re: Morning scare.... 2013/10/22 11:15:58 (permalink)
 We just had a home broken into here not a mile from my house. I know the guy involved. He is an older guy and he was there with his wife. The two intruders kept asking for someone who he didn't know and had never heard of. They wore masks. They put him on the floor and told him to shut up, did the same to his wife. They came right up to the front door and knocked and he opened the door. We think it was a drug deal gone wrong and they must have gotten the wrong address. They went through his house and left after they discovered they had the wrong guy. He is still shook up from the whole episode. In this case if he would have used a gun there is a really good chance that the second person who would have not been shot would have killed him and probably his wife. In this case there were two of them. What do you do if you kill one and the other one is there with a gun outside of your vision? Sometimes there is a second man outside. I think in some cases cooperation might save your life. As this turned out he is safe, his wife is safe and he has all of his possessions.
 
 The intruder has probably thought about how they can pull it off and be safe and that might include more than one person. Usually intrusions around here are drug related. Some people have been robbed while in their house asleep. Playing possum in this case might save you your life. Usually the robber has nothing on their mind but getting drug money. Stay out of the way or fight, the choice is up to you. You have to ponder the consequences of that choice. If they really wanted inside your house I guarantee they would have gotten in. I don't think the intruder was interested in anything but an easy take, someone who leaves their doors unlocked.

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Re: Morning scare.... 2013/10/22 12:23:24 (permalink)
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 We just had a home broken into here not a mile from my house. I know the guy involved. He is an older guy and he was there with his wife. The two intruders kept asking for someone who he didn't know and had never heard of. They wore masks. They put him on the floor and told him to shut up, did the same to his wife. They came right up to the front door and knocked and he opened the door. We think it was a drug deal gone wrong and they must have gotten the wrong address. They went through his house and left after they discovered they had the wrong guy. He is still shook up from the whole episode. In this case if he would have used a gun there is a really good chance that the second person who would have not been shot would have killed him and probably his wife. In this case there were two of them. What do you do if you kill one and the other one is there with a gun outside of your vision? Sometimes there is a second man outside. I think in some cases cooperation might save your life. As this turned out he is safe, his wife is safe and he has all of his possessions.
 
 The intruder has probably thought about how they can pull it off and be safe and that might include more than one person. Usually intrusions around here are drug related. Some people have been robbed while in their house asleep. Playing possum in this case might save you your life. Usually the robber has nothing on their mind but getting drug money. Stay out of the way or fight, the choice is up to you. You have to ponder the consequences of that choice. If they really wanted inside your house I guarantee they would have gotten in. I don't think the intruder was interested in anything but an easy take, someone who leaves their doors unlocked.




 
 
I hate it when the cops do this....

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Re: Morning scare.... 2013/10/22 12:44:40 (permalink)
Unfortunately Herb it wasn't the cops.
 
   My friend is still very shook up over ther whole thing. In my thinking it isn't about who is the more macho person or who can pull a gun faster. It is all about survival. Whatever it takes to survive. Unless you have some kind of an early warning sysem they have the upper hand  if they come while you are fast asleep. If they get all the way to your bedroom before you wake up it's probably too late unless you have a gun permenantly attached to your arm. Forget about all of those western quick draw Mcraw movies. In real life stealth is master over ability.
 
 Many of these people are way beyond caring about what happens. If they had an ounce of caution they wouldn't even contemplate intruding into a home while anyone is there. The desire for drugs outweighs anything else..period. Most of the time they want your stuff and they want to leave. If you stand in the way of that you had better be successful and successful the very first time. 

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Re: Morning scare.... 2013/10/22 12:51:10 (permalink)
What a trip.
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Re: Morning scare.... 2013/10/22 12:58:52 (permalink)
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this topic gets me going ...i had to make this pic just to calm down ...
 
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You know you can buy those (the cannon) in the USA without a lisense or background check. Anything muzzloading is OK... if you can afford it. I have given serious thought to getting one to maybe do some enactments. I had a friend, deceased, who actually had a replica 12 lb Parrot gun. He had a lisence because he had a LOT of guns. He once supplied guns for a Chuck Norris movie filmed in Atlanta, don't remember which one. He had huge machine guns on tripods etc... calymores, the whoe gamut.. anyway he had this Parrot gun, it was a rifled gun from the 1860s and he, with his lisence could get explosive shell made. Without a lisence you can only shoot duds or round solid shot.. or grapeshot, or chain, or nails... so, he would go to Ft. Benning and have competitions with the active duty military, shooting the Parrot against (at targets) the military and modern guns... what FUN that must have been. I think you can get a used Napoleon for around 20K. Get a few friends, some earplugs, and hire out for ceremonies etc. I think it would be a "blast". We still celebrate "Decoration Day" here in N GA. The first Confederate memorial day was held in Kingston, GA about 10 minutes away from me... it started under occupation with permission from the yankee general in Kingston while the war was still on as long as the women doing it also honored the yankee dead. An agreement was struck and it has not missed a year.
As far as the hippo... you're on your own. No telling who he might bite... LOL
 
@ Herb, I have not looked at your links yet, but I will this evening. I dont know if I said but I looked at the wireless security cams and DVR on either Tigetdirect or Newegg, I could do that for about the same price as getting two trail cams. Going to the MP6 and a Black Ops unit that sends pics and alerts to my phone. I'll have to get a SIM card for it and I think it will be 20 bucks a month with AT&T. Then I can move them and also use them when something starts to eat the cat food again. Also use them to watch rat bait boxes to see if rats of chipmonks are eating all the bait... then I can expense them to my business.
 
Am thinking about getting an Airedale puppy. They use them for lion hunting that should do the job... will get a small dog if I have to.
 
I'm only buying one more gun. That will be for my wife, something that she can be comfortable with. Also getting her a taser. It is too late to not have guns, they are here already, along with too many guitars, amps, metal detectors, and other stuff... I need a safe I think. Swords too... a machete, Kabar full size fighting knife, nice and sharp hand made skinning knife, I usually wear my Buck folding hunter, when I was young I could get it out and open with one hand in about 3sec from buttoned in the case. I need to practice...
 
 
Ya'll don't get the idea that I am some sort of bad a55, I'm not.. and I don't know exactly what I would or will do. I have always avoided confrontations and done my best to defuse things even apologizing when I was not wrong. I don't want to hurt anyone but like I said, it is like a small war. This place is my land, my house is like my castle. I am lord here. I am responsible and am NOY going to allow anyone to invade here to steal, rape, kill, or whatever they might do. There is too much at stake, too much that can go the wrong way if someone takes it upon themself to invade my home, for whatever reason, and if I don't respond immediately. I couldn't shoot someone in cold blood but I might knock them around with this wooden baseball bat. I would not just hold someone and wait for the police to come get them and then let them go. I would inflict some pain and suffering on them for their trouble and let them know that if I ever see them near my home again... then all bets are off.
That is the way I think... what I might do.. I really don't know but if they threaten my wife, me, my cat, or anything I don't know what I'll do.
I really hope whoever it was never comes around again.
 
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Re: Morning scare.... 2013/10/22 13:03:13 (permalink)
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Don't use a stun gun unless you are halfway proficient in open hand self defense.... Karate or some other martial art and have practiced sufficiently to halfway know how to defend and attack close in, and are proficient in the use of a handheld weapon such as a kubaton or a knife..... because the stun gun taser has to make bodily contact to work.  Although some punks will run at the sight of the big blue spark.
 
Don't use fake cameras. Just Don't.   They invite lawsuits and you won't win.  Trust me on this.... I'm in the business and the lawsuits are legendary. So no fake cams.
 
The warrior mind set is crucial as has been pointed out. In any confrontation it is important to understand that this incident could quickly and easily escalate to life and death in seconds. That decision and willingness to use deadly force  must be made before it begins. Hesitate for half a second and you could be on the floor with a sheet over you.
 
This is from farce book.... this is 10 seconds total but the actual event is 1 second while under stress : https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=670841776267356&set=vb.100000246204208&type=2&theater 
 
It happens fast....hesitate and you could be dead.
 
There are training courses as I mentioned earlier, that will do their best to simulate the experience, but in reality, nothing prepares you for such an encounter. Those who are prepared, and who have trained, and are familiar with their weapon of choice, and know it's balance, weight, safety devices, operation, and how it functions are better prepared to have a chance at surviving the encounter than those who have not prepared. You must know that weapon and not have to think about any aspect of it. As stress levels rise, fine motor skill diminish and the conscious mind is focused on survival not operating a safety.... so it must be an auto pilot sort of zen thing at that point....and that comes only from practice.
 
Why do you think the military is always practicing, and martial artists, and musicians? It has to be second nature.


Thanks Herb, I am smallish, and now too old for a fair fight. I guess they better leave me alone. I am glad you posted this. I think it is the same with a knife. That would be my last resort at my age because with a little luck a young man would take it from me. I really hate all this but I am glad to be sort of prepared. I now go to the garage when my wife leaves, we keep the doors locked but I absolutely refuse to live with the blinds closed. I will not hide... will get the cams and try to be proactive. I'd just like to get my garage cleaned out, and this rental house someone trashed cleaned up... I wish people would just do right.
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Re: Morning scare.... 2013/10/22 13:05:32 (permalink)
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Did anyone ever get around to calling 911?


No... what would they do? She didn't call at the time, why call two hours later. They might say "protect and serve" but really they only respond after a crime has been commited. It would have been a waste of time and they might tell me something I don't want to hear. I'll handle this myself because in the end, I am going to have to anyway.
But thanks...
 
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Re: Morning scare.... 2013/10/22 13:13:24 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby jbow 2013/10/22 13:25:47
Always look outside to see who is at the door before opening it. Never just walk up and open it.... those days are long past.
 
More than one time I have answered the door with my 9mm in my hand behind me concealed from view.  You never know....
 
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Re: Morning scare.... 2013/10/22 13:25:09 (permalink)
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 We just had a home broken into here not a mile from my house. I know the guy involved. He is an older guy and he was there with his wife. The two intruders kept asking for someone who he didn't know and had never heard of. They wore masks. They put him on the floor and told him to shut up, did the same to his wife. They came right up to the front door and knocked and he opened the door. We think it was a drug deal gone wrong and they must have gotten the wrong address. They went through his house and left after they discovered they had the wrong guy. He is still shook up from the whole episode. In this case if he would have used a gun there is a really good chance that the second person who would have not been shot would have killed him and probably his wife. In this case there were two of them. What do you do if you kill one and the other one is there with a gun outside of your vision? Sometimes there is a second man outside. I think in some cases cooperation might save your life. As this turned out he is safe, his wife is safe and he has all of his possessions.
 
 The intruder has probably thought about how they can pull it off and be safe and that might include more than one person. Usually intrusions around here are drug related. Some people have been robbed while in their house asleep. Playing possum in this case might save you your life. Usually the robber has nothing on their mind but getting drug money. Stay out of the way or fight, the choice is up to you. You have to ponder the consequences of that choice. If they really wanted inside your house I guarantee they would have gotten in. I don't think the intruder was interested in anything but an easy take, someone who leaves their doors unlocked.


I appreciate it but it just isn't my nature to allow someone to violate me, my wife, or my home. My only real option is to go hot and fast because I wouldn't make a good hostage. I'd get mad and do something stupid... it would be better for me to act. Even befor this happened, if I cannot see who is at the door, I answer it with a gun in my back pocket. This is not the 1950s... even in the 60s things were changing, does anyone remember the Ned Alday family?
I am not going to live forever but I do have to live with myself and if I just allowed something to happen, just allowed someone to come in my house and steal my things while I hid... it would eat me up for the rest of my life. I think I would rather risk it all and do the unexpected without hesitation. I have thought it through and I told my wife that if I came in and had my gun and someone else had a gun to her head... I am going to shoot them, I woud NOT drop my gun. I'd rather us both be shot than drp my gun and allow myself to be beaten or have to watch my wife raped. Not going to do that... and I wouldn't wait. Say a word or two and shoot in the middle of the first sentence.
 
I'm just not made that way. It is eating your friend up right now and I bet if he can be prepared he would not lay down again.
 
I don't know, it is stressful just talking about it but it helps me to gather resolve and be prepared beforehand so I don't have to wonder what to do if confronted. I just hope it is over but with the cameras I will know and if there is somene out there I will get a tree stand or gillie and lay in wait... in that case I would not shoot anyone, that is when I would hold them for the police... but I feel I have to be proactive, the alternative is to be afraid and hide... to trade freedom for some false security and I refuse to do that. I'll do my best to do the bold and unexpected, that way I will have an advantage. Criminals never expect "citizens" to be anything other than passive... but I have a checkered past and know how to sneak. The Lord has preserved me through some times of my own making that should have resulted in my death or in prison. I am thankful... would NEVER want to be young again. Goodness and respectability does not come natural for me, I had to be remade and I have to keep an eye on it. My flesh is a bad sort of flesh... if you know what I mean.
I do appreciate your thoughts..
 
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Re: Morning scare.... 2013/10/22 13:38:26 (permalink)
people these days are just plain mean.... a soulless sort of mean.... you can not take that chance that if you treat them nice and go along to get along they will do you a favor....
 
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Re: Morning scare.... 2013/10/22 13:52:26 (permalink)
Something like that happened to me once, only I looked out the window. Turned out it was a neighbor drunk out of his gourd who couldn't figure out why his key would no longer fit. Luckily we were able to sort out the error and get him home, without blowing a large hole in my door.
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Re: Morning scare.... 2013/10/22 14:52:30 (permalink)
  jbow noone should blame a guy for trying to protect his wife and possessions. I think most would opt for that stategy. I have to hand it to my friend for keeping it together. I think in his case it saved him and his wife. Maybe in another situation grabbing that glass candle holder at just the right time or grabbing a gun is the answer.
 
 As far as my stuff is concerned, it's only stuff. If it came down to me or my stuff my family is more important than anything material. It would probably be a vain attempt against two or more thugs with weapons but if they tried to hurt my wife I would probably die trying to protect her. If they attempted to hurt me and I had a way to stop that, you bet I would. Since most robberies are not motivated by anything more than a person who wants to loot. IOW they have no real interest in hurting you unless you get in the way. Then if they are hell bent on  having my stuff, let em' have it and I'll call the cops and likely get it all back at some point. 
 
 Quite a few years ago a church we went to was robbed. They took all of the sound gear. It wasn't two weeks later they were apprehended and all the gear was returned. They had gotten careless after having robbed numerous establishments and businesses. There are happy endings to lost and stolen stuff sometimes. 
 
  I looked into the whole camera thing. Those fake cameras look fake...from a distance. There are workarounds for everything and you need to build in backups for the backups. If they can get to your electric meter all they need to do is pull it and your cameras go bye bye.Seeing the cameras can be both good and bad. If you see them you can find ways to avoid them. You can "blind" a sensitive night camera with simply a very bright flashlight. And most importantly, if they rob you, you will have pics of what? Most of the time the culprit is disguised and you see the pics after the event has already occurred.If you have wireless cameras the batts can get low. If you have wired cameras the wires can be cut. I'm not saying cameras are useless but there are holes a smart criminal can get through.
 
 I think both cameras and guns are sometimes more of a pacifier than any actual good. They make us feel like we are protected, but are we really? Everything is conditional. A stupid crook might get caught. The more savy ones not so much. Sorry Herb, are security companies selling actual security or prying on fears? There is the feeling of security with cameras, guns, window sensors etc etc. It certainly can be a deterrent. From a criminal perspective they might think, " Why do they have their house under so much security? There must be something really valuable in there". In that case they might be even more prone to consider breaking in. Visible security can draw attention to yourself. The fake camera seems middle ground. " This guy was too cheap to buy a real security system." Maybe hidden security is the best. Maybe the scarf will fall off his face and the hidden camera might catch it. 

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Re: Morning scare.... 2013/10/22 16:15:33 (permalink)
Some of the camera/alarm systems will call 911 automatically.

The automatic part gives people a few extra seconds to figure out how to slide the action.
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Re: Morning scare.... 2013/10/22 16:15:56 (permalink)
911 should have been called immediately.  Tell them exactly which doorknobs were tried and maybe they can get some fingerprints off of them.  Calling would, at least, get them to send a patrol car to cruise the neighborhood and THAT might be just enough to save someone else.

 
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Re: Morning scare.... 2013/10/22 17:40:51 (permalink)
Latest reports from yesterday's shooting in Nevada says the kid got the gun from his home and the parents may be held responsible.
 
 
So, if I'm a responsible gun owner, I keep it where the children do not have access; maybe storing the ammunition separately; padlocked etc.
 
 
Then how do I get to it if I need it in a hurry?
 
 
 
I'm sorry but most gun owners scare the hell out of me; and the ones that are expert marksmen (weekly trips to the firing range) scare me the most.
 

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Re: Morning scare.... 2013/10/23 01:44:44 (permalink)
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Re: Morning scare.... 2013/10/23 06:25:47 (permalink)
Sorry to hear about this J, can't really offer any advice other than what's already been said.

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Re: Morning scare.... 2013/10/23 06:31:11 (permalink)
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Latest reports from yesterday's shooting in Nevada says the kid got the gun from his home and the parents may be held responsible.
 
 
So, if I'm a responsible gun owner, I keep it where the children do not have access; maybe storing the ammunition separately; padlocked etc.
 
 
Then how do I get to it if I need it in a hurry?
 
 
 
I'm sorry but most gun owners scare the hell out of me; and the ones that are expert marksmen (weekly trips to the firing range) scare me the most.
 



In the UK we don't have anywhere near the problems associated with gun ownership because most people don't own one,the licensing laws are much stricter.
 
I used to go shooting at a range myself, .22 calibre revolvers and auto's, guns owned by the club.
 
The USA is where it is with gun ownership, it's hard to come back from the route that's been taken and it's one reason I hope they never relax the laws in the UK.
 
If I was in J's situation and country I would be taking similar action to what he is.

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Re: Morning scare.... 2013/10/23 13:24:10 (permalink)
Cameras are a very good idea, since in all likelihood it's a neighbor kid who you might recognize. A chat might be all it would take, either with the kid or with his mom 'n dad. 
 
I have a camera here that sees in total darkness, responds to motion, takes a snapshot of the intruder and uploads it to my ftp server so that even if he smashes the camera it's too late for him - his photo's already on disk in another location. This camera was only a hundred bucks (although it's only for indoor use; outdoor cameras are a little pricier).
 
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Re: Morning scare.... 2013/10/23 14:00:00 (permalink)
I'm staying in my box.  I was going to write, "Do Not Open!" on the lid, but I was afraid that someone might misread it as "Donut, Open!"  I thought that might encourage the sort of thing Bit warned us about.
 
I'm just glad that Pandora let me use her box.  I have the strangest feeling that I may not be alone in here, though.
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Re: Morning scare.... 2013/10/23 14:47:47 (permalink)


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Re: Morning scare.... 2013/10/23 22:48:29 (permalink)
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I'm staying in my box.  I was going to write, "Do Not Open!" on the lid, but I was afraid that someone might misread it as "Donut, Open!"  I thought that might encourage the sort of thing Bit warned us about.
 
I'm just glad that Pandora let me use her box.  I have the strangest feeling that I may not be alone in here, though.


It's just a box of rain....
 
Backwoods.. yeah, you're probably right. It just bothered me that they would try it right after my wife went in the door... if it had been when they thought no one was home it would be different. I'm just going to try to be more aware and prepared, heck... that is just comon sense in this world anyway. I decided to answer you by editing this post because I don't want to bump it back to the top... Sometimes I am an excitable boy.
BTW, I hope no one comes here looking for cash. I use a debit card or AMEX. I rarely have more than 40 bucks cash... usually 20 or less... and I have no safe.
 
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Re: Morning scare.... 2013/10/23 23:54:06 (permalink)
hehe- get a grip dude!
 
baddies will target other baddies and beat the crap out of them for money, becuase they will not go to the police. By the sounds of it you are not a target, you probably don't even need cameras. 
 
like buitflipper said- it's a neighbour kid looking for booze or cash.
 
 
 
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Re: Morning scare.... 2013/10/24 19:49:02 (permalink)
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  Sorry Herb, are security companies selling actual security or prying on fears? There is the feeling of security with cameras, guns, window sensors etc etc. It certainly can be a deterrent. From a criminal perspective they might think, " Why do they have their house under so much security? There must be something really valuable in there". In that case they might be even more prone to consider breaking in. Visible security can draw attention to yourself. The fake camera seems middle ground. " This guy was too cheap to buy a real security system." Maybe hidden security is the best. Maybe the scarf will fall off his face and the hidden camera might catch it. 




 
Some companiesdo sell on fear. I never liked that approach. I never use hard sell tactics either. I describe the equipment, how it works, why they need something or even why they don't, and give them the price ...installed plus tax and the monitoring fee if they want that.... then I hand them the quote and thank them for their time. Call me if you can use my services.
 
Will the presence of a security system make the perp think it's worth breaking in or go looking for easier pickings? No one ever knows when it's the latter. I've had about a dozen who were glad they did install the system.  If you're gonna invest in security, go all the way. No signs on the lawn and window without a working system in the house.... no fake cams.... real ones are not that expensive and have lots of nice features to them.....

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Re: Morning scare.... 2013/10/24 20:02:33 (permalink)
I like the motion-sensor type that upload to an internet server so you can check on things remotely and I prefer hidden cameras.

 
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Re: Morning scare.... 2013/10/25 14:18:01 (permalink)
 
The only drawback to those is if someone ever gets your IP info.......ok I like to play devils advocate  There are cameras where I work. If you have the IP address you can go to it from any computer anywhere in the world.
 
 Herb, I think thats the right way to go.Some people are afraid no matter what.
 
 I am still considering a few cameras but I admit I don't put a lot of faith in them. Mine would be well hidden. If you come to my house I promise there won't be any in the bathroom.
 
 Guess what else you can do remotely? Here is screenshot of my ipad. This is my home thermostat. I don't pay a monthy fee for this. When I put in my heat pump last week I added a redlink thermostat. The ipad goes to a honeywell server and can look through wifi at my thermostat. The thermostat itself is much more complex than this, but this free app lets me adjust temps, set schedules, look at outdoor/indoor temps and humidities.


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Re: Morning scare.... 2013/10/25 22:41:53 (permalink)
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The only drawback to those is if someone ever gets your IP info.......ok I like to play devils advocate  There are cameras where I work. If you have the IP address you can go to it from any computer anywhere in the world.
 
 Herb, I think thats the right way to go.Some people are afraid no matter what.
 
 I am still considering a few cameras but I admit I don't put a lot of faith in them. Mine would be well hidden. If you come to my house I promise there won't be any in the bathroom.
 
 Guess what else you can do remotely? Here is screenshot of my ipad. This is my home thermostat. I don't pay a monthy fee for this. When I put in my heat pump last week I added a redlink thermostat. The ipad goes to a honeywell server and can look through wifi at my thermostat. The thermostat itself is much more complex than this, but this free app lets me adjust temps, set schedules, look at outdoor/indoor temps and humidities.




Oooo...  I just found I can access their user's list.  Your information was there and, all I can say is, boy are you in for a weird night: 80 degrees at 2am, then 50 degrees by 4am!   Muhahahaha!!!!

 
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Re: Morning scare.... 2013/10/26 09:24:36 (permalink)
Didn't mean to upset you Julien and I didn't really mean you had to build Fort Knox. Just a room that is a little harder to get into with a phone and some defensive weapons (like a shotgun). Just a place for her to run to if she's alone and thinks something is up. Seconds matter in invasion situations so in the extra time it takes for the bad guy to bust down the door she can have gather her wits a little better, gotten the gun ready for action and called for help.
 
You could make your studio room the secure room as an extra benefit. That way when you guys are out your gear is a little more secure.
 
All that's REALLY needed is a solid door, reinforced door frame, secure windows (or no windows) and a drop bar or two so they can't kick the door in. If they come through the walls then your wife would a) still have enough time to prepare herself and the weapon/call the cops and b) have the tactical advantage because the dirtbag would be in a compromised position coming through the wall.
 
If you're at home I'm sure you could take care of most threats. Just thinking of the wifey. It might make her feel a little safer. Being afraid in one's own home is an awful feeling.
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Re: Morning scare.... 2013/10/28 11:23:09 (permalink)
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Starise
 
The only drawback to those is if someone ever gets your IP info.......ok I like to play devils advocate  There are cameras where I work. If you have the IP address you can go to it from any computer anywhere in the world.
 
 Herb, I think thats the right way to go.Some people are afraid no matter what.
 
 I am still considering a few cameras but I admit I don't put a lot of faith in them. Mine would be well hidden. If you come to my house I promise there won't be any in the bathroom.
 
 Guess what else you can do remotely? Here is screenshot of my ipad. This is my home thermostat. I don't pay a monthy fee for this. When I put in my heat pump last week I added a redlink thermostat. The ipad goes to a honeywell server and can look through wifi at my thermostat. The thermostat itself is much more complex than this, but this free app lets me adjust temps, set schedules, look at outdoor/indoor temps and humidities.




Oooo...  I just found I can access their user's list.  Your information was there and, all I can say is, boy are you in for a weird night: 80 degrees at 2am, then 50 degrees by 4am!   Muhahahaha!!!!




 
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