Motif Rack XS Firewire FW16E and Windows 10

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2017/01/02 11:27:36 (permalink)

Motif Rack XS Firewire FW16E and Windows 10

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Does anyone have a Motif Rack XS unit with an FWmLan card that is working in Windows 10 via firewire.  I trying to get mine setup but I can't even find a compatible driver on the web.  Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance,
Ok it seems I didn't know what I had in my Motif XS rack unit.  I have an FW16E firewire card not an mLan card so I might be in luck.  I am downloading the driver and support documents from Yamaha today and will test the unit for connectivity in Sonar Platinum and Windows 10.  I'll let everyone know how it goes.
 
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    bnwitt
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    Re: Mlan Motif Rack XS and Windows 10 2017/01/02 21:10:07 (permalink)
    No one?  Really?  I guess I'm an odd ball.

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    Re: Mlan Motif Rack XS and Windows 10 2017/01/03 09:14:10 (permalink)
    i don't have that, barry, but i do know that windows update removes the legacy 1394 firewire driver. booted up one day to find i had no audio interface.
     
    i got the driver from ms. now i keep that driver file and the install file for my m-audio firewire 1814 in a handy folder. i have to use one or the other frequently...

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    Re: Mlan Motif Rack XS and Windows 10 2017/01/03 10:04:51 (permalink)
    dlion16,
    Thank you for the reply.  Can you be a little more specific regarding the actual driver file like maybe a link and are you just going into device manager and choosing it for your device?

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    Re: Mlan Motif Rack XS and Windows 10 2017/01/03 10:48:56 (permalink)
    Hmmm, I have that motif but have never tried to hook it up like that. I'll have to check it out when I go up to the studio. I usually just record the audio to Sonar, lol

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    Re: Mlan Motif Rack XS and Windows 10 2017/01/03 11:35:14 (permalink)
    stevesweat,
    Well I'll keep you posted on it.  I'm trying to get it working right now.  I've downloaded and installed the Yamaha Steinberg FW windows 64 bit driver found here:
    http://download.yamaha.com/search/product/?site=usa.yamaha.com&language=en&category_id1=16244&category_id2=16381&category_id3=&product_id=774999
     
    and I am about to install the editor and Rack XS extension from the Yamaha download site as well.  The benefit is it frees up midi ports on my MOTU timepiece and analog inputs on my MOTU 2408 for other devices.   I'd love to get it working.

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    Re: Mlan Motif Rack XS and Windows 10 2017/01/03 12:29:10 (permalink)
    Well I'm making some progress.  I had the firewire cable coming from the Motif XS Rack firewire card going to a port which is part of an expansion bracket in the expansion card slot area of the case that's connects to the motherboard 2nd firewire port.  I moved the cable to the main motherboard firewire port on the motherboard port area and now the device connects.  Turning it on and off causes a windows 10 sound event.  Also, I can see it in the Motif XS editor program but it is not showing up as an audio device in Windows 10 sound hardware or in Sonar Platinum.  If anyone has any ideas at this point I'm open to suggestions.

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    Re: Mlan Motif Rack XS and Windows 10 2017/01/14 13:46:58 (permalink)
    Does anyone have a Motif keyboard or rack unit working in Sonar Platinum with the firewire card?

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    Re: Mlan Motif Rack XS and Windows 10 2017/01/15 05:33:20 (permalink)
     
    Yes, I have a motif XF with the FW16 inserted. I normally use the saffire pro 40, but to test, I changed it to the motif, and it works fine. I would recommend the following:
    - make sure the motif is switched off
    - remove the currently installed driver
    - download this driver: http://download.yamaha.com/search/detail/?site=nl.yamaha.com&language=nl&category_id1=16277&category_id2=16381&product_id=1073317&asset_file_language=EN&asset_id=21027
     that should be a file called win_fw_v166x64.zip.
    - unpack this, and install it, make sure you reboot your machine after installation.
    - switch on the motif, windows should recognize it. A tray icon should appear and if you double click that, it should tell you a motif is connected. You can set the latency and bitrate in that tray utility as well.
    - There is another utility, in the zip file you downloaded called ysfwutility.exe. That is located in the utility directory. If you run that, you can set the firewire latency (different from driver latency). You can also set the firewire speed there. If you have issues, try playing with the settings in that tool. I do believe it requires a reboot after every change.
    - If all goes well, windows will install your motif. And it should be visible in Sonar.
    - Make sure you select Asio. Then select the Yamaha drivers. (don't use asio4all...)
     
    Hope this helps!
     

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    Re: Mlan Motif Rack XS and Windows 10 2017/01/15 05:36:08 (permalink)
    by the way... Not all Firewire chipsets work well with this card. It is a bit finicky... I have a Texas Instruments card, which works fine. I've had some issues with NEC chipsets, and another one that I can't remember the name of now...

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    Re: Mlan Motif Rack XS and Windows 10 2017/01/16 04:43:43 (permalink)
    I've got a MOTIF XS-8 keyboard with on-board Firewire interface which works well under WIN10 connected via a $25 SY-PEX30016 PCI Firewire card with a TI chipset: 
     
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815124107&cm_re=SY-PEX30016-_-15-124-107-_-Product
     
    I don't use it for recording much since I prefer my keeping my ASIO USB3 interface available in SONAR, but I like to test and play with it to make sure it does work if I need clean multitrack audio out of the MOTIF from time to time. It seems to work well with the latest drivers from the Yamaha download site noted above. 
     
    Are you setting up your outs correctly on the MOTIF?  Just because the computer chirps when it sees the MOTIF doesn't mean the MOTIF is set up to send audio via the FW.  The manual is a bit confusing at times when it uses the "mLAN" terminology when it is really referring to the Firewire interface.  However, follow these instructions and substitute Firewire for mLan: 
     
    "Make sure that the mLAN connector of the MOTIF XS is enabled for audio communication. When transmitting audio signals via the mLAN connector, set the Output Select parameter of the MOTIF XS. When receiving audio signals via the mLAN connector, set the mLAN audio input part parameters of the MOTIF XS. For details, see page 45.  Press the [STORE] button to store this setting. . . ."
     
    Otherwise, not sure why it isn't showing up for you as a sound device in WIN10 or SONAR.  It may be that the MOBO firewire interface isn't playing nicely.  You could buy and try the TI PCI card above and return if it doesn't solve things.
     
    No other ideas.  Good luck.

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    Re: Mlan Motif Rack XS and Windows 10 2017/01/16 14:57:56 (permalink)
    BRainbow,
    Thank you for the reply.  I will try your suggestions and post afterwards.
     
    Barry

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