dappa1
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Motorboating
some projects now motorboat when opening a project this now happens in x2 and x1 aswell as platinum
has anyone else had this issue since the inception of platinum?
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tenfoot
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Re: Motorboating
2015/09/05 12:01:57
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Re: Motorboating
2015/09/05 12:52:35
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We can only guess becuase you have not told us anything about what your system is.
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Zargg
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Re: Motorboating
2015/09/05 13:15:40
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tenfoot
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Re: Motorboating
2015/09/05 13:24:44
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Good to know I am not the only one missing out Ken. Probably all for the best productivity wise though:)
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Re: Motorboating
2015/09/05 13:56:25
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Occasionally I will get motorboating on my audio interface, usually occurs when I add some CPU intensive look ahead plugin to an already taxed project. I just reboot, restart the project, then it allows me to add that extra plugin. . . . but I have never had motorboating occur from merely opening a project as you describe. I think it's caused by a plugin (or too many) that your audio interface can't handle, or a buffer setting too low, but for me it usually happens when hitting the play button, sending the audio into an overload. Scares the hell out of my cat. Sometimes I ask too much from my 15 year old soundcard. What audio interface do you have ?
post edited by noynekker - 2015/09/05 14:06:19
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Re: Motorboating
2015/09/05 13:59:27
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tenfoot
Being unfamilar with the term 'motorboating' I googled. The link below is the result. Stop your ****in' man - I wish my copy of Sonar had this feature!
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=motorboat
Your Google was luckier than mine (reminder to self turn off safe search): http://www.clarisonus.com/Archives/Amp_Design/Motorboating.pdf I must admit I never really got the definition of "motorboating" in Sonar clear, although I vaguely recall someone posted an audio sample some time in the distant past. It clearly was not the same as the analogue phenomenon of the same name, and it seems to have been used over the years by different people to describe phenomena that were not the same phenomenon. I have not seen the term in a long time here, and it has reportedly been fixed in the past versions. Rather than use a poorly defined shorthand for what people are hearing perhaps it would be best to describe it.
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Re: Motorboating
2015/09/05 14:02:35
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 Seriously though... something is going wonky with your system resources. Some optimization and/or resource management and/or system troubleshooting is in order.
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Beepster
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Re: Motorboating
2015/09/05 14:08:43
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tenfoot
Being unfamilar with the term 'motorboating' I googled. The link below is the result. Stop your ****in' man - I wish my copy of Sonar had this feature!
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=motorboat
Your Google was luckier than mine (reminder to self turn off safe search):
http://www.clarisonus.com/Archives/Amp_Design/Motorboating.pdf
I must admit I never really got the definition of "motorboating" in Sonar clear, although I vaguely recall someone posted an audio sample some time in the distant past. It clearly was not the same as the analogue phenomenon of the same name, and it seems to have been used over the years by different people to describe phenomena that were not the same phenomenon. I have not seen the term in a long time here, and it has reportedly been fixed in the past versions. Rather than use a poorly defined shorthand for what people are hearing perhaps it would be best to describe it.
Just like the "Zipper" noise. I THINK I have experienced that (and I think I've experienced motorboating... and not the pleasant kind... which lucky me I've also experienced in my previously cool guy life) but these terms are, as you said, rather ill defined and probably misused. I'd say up your buffers and/or load in safe mode (and in safe mode progressively reintroduce plugs until it starts happening) and/or update whatever drivers may be out of date (most likely interface drivers especially if you have upgraded your OS) and/or go into your power management options/startup items and disable anything that could be interfering and/or check for hardware failures and/or and/or and/or... etc. Just troubleshooting really.
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promidi
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Re: Motorboating
2015/09/06 09:59:39
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tenfoot
Being unfamilar with the term 'motorboating' I googled. The link below is the result. Stop your ****in' man - I wish my copy of Sonar had this feature!
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=motorboat
I did not get that with my copy either
Maybe we can ask it as a feature request for the next update....
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dappa1
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Re: Motorboating
2015/09/06 15:02:52
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im using focusrite saffire 24dsp since I have loaded platinum I get it from time to time. Im running a 64bit OS with 6gb ram should be stable 1TB Acer desktop computer with intel inside lol
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Beepster
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Re: Motorboating
2015/09/06 15:16:47
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dappa1
im using focusrite saffire 24dsp since I have loaded platinum I get it from time to time. Im running a 64bit OS with 6gb ram should be stable 1TB Acer desktop computer with intel inside lol
Firewire interface? Are you using a dedicated firewire card with the recommended Texas Instruments chipset (or if you are using the motherboard's firewire does the motherboard have a TI chipset)? Since it sounds like a prebuilt Acer then they likely did not consider the firewire needs of audio applications such as Sonar and did NOT use the best FW chipset. Also watch out for "bridging" versus "native" issues when dealing with "daughterboards" (PCI cards). If you invest in a firewire card with a proper TI chipset make sure it uses a PCIe slot... not a legacy PCI slot which will likely be "bridged" which can cause issues like you are describing (and happened to me when trying to use a legacy PCI card and slot on my modern motherboard... which is why I bought a USB interface). So yeah... if you are using firewire then make sure you have the BEST connection for firewire... which is likely a dedicated PCIe card using an appropriate Texas Instrument chipset (I do not know the exact model number offhand but it is easily found on google because this is an known issue with Firewire). Cheers. PS: Also if you are using the Acer installed programs and OS you NEED to do some tweaking. Such as disabling startup programs, removing bloatware, turning ON everything like ports and turning OFF power management crap that will make your computer go to "sleep", etc. Those factory installs are murder for audio programs. The system hardware may be fine but the OS is likely telling it to do all sorts of stupid crap that is disrupting your audio stream thus causing your audio issues. PPS: I am not a computer tech. I just know what I read and what has solved my own issues.
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kitekrazy1
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Re: Motorboating
2015/09/06 15:26:43
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noynekker
Occasionally I will get motorboating on my audio interface, usually occurs when I add some CPU intensive look ahead plugin to an already taxed project. I just reboot, restart the project, then it allows me to add that extra plugin.
. . . but I have never had motorboating occur from merely opening a project as you describe.
I think it's caused by a plugin (or too many) that your audio interface can't handle, or a buffer setting too low, but for me it usually happens when hitting the play button, sending the audio into an overload. Scares the hell out of my cat. Sometimes I ask too much from my 15 year old soundcard. What audio interface do you have ?
That's the problem. Increase the buffers on your audio interface. If you are mixing and not recording, low latency is not necessary.
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Doktor Avalanche 
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Re: Motorboating
2015/09/06 15:32:13
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This points to a list of FireWire chipsets recommended by Focusrite: http://uk.focusrite.com/a...rewire-adapter?id=1057Note currently some VIA chipsets and Saffire are not compatible with Win10, the situation is likely to be temporary. If you are running mix control 3.x and above you should not be using legacy FireWire drivers. Latest version of mix control is 3.6.
post edited by Doktor Avalanche - 2015/09/06 15:42:10
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Re: Motorboating
2015/09/06 19:46:21
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I just got this yesterday messing around with WDM drivers on an old GNX3000. When searching for the lowest buffer possible, the motorboat kicks in first, then progresses to flat-out distortion.
First time I have seen this, but occurred right on the good/bad buffer threshold.
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