bitflipper
01100010 01101001 01110100 01100110 01101100 01101
- Total Posts : 26036
- Joined: 2006/09/17 11:23:23
- Location: Everett, WA USA
- Status: offline
Mouse trouble
Not the usual kind. The cute furry kind that chews on cables and craps anywhere he feels like. A little mouse has moved into my garage/office/studio. He probably walked in on one of the many warm days that I left the door open, and now refuses to leave. He is fearless. I threatened him with a tambourine, shaking it furiously in his direction in hopes his sensitive ears would be offended and he'd head back out the door. But he just sat there looking at me. I am conflicted. I don't even kill house spiders, preferring to gently relocate them to the outdoors. Even though I know I'm dooming them to a horrible death, either in a bird's beak or by slow starvation, but it helps my own conscience. But dammit, this mouse has got to go. This morning I came in and there was a distinct ammonia smell from mouse urine. And it's only a matter of time before Mrs. Mouse moves in and they start raising a family. So two days ago I bought mouse traps. These are tubular devices that contain the carcass so I won't have to look my victim in the eye as I inter him in the trashcan. Unfortunately, they have not been effective. Wrong bait, perhaps, although mice don't seem to be picky eaters. My fear is that he's just too smart. Suggestions?
All else is in doubt, so this is the truth I cling to. My Stuff
|
jamesg1213
Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
- Total Posts : 21760
- Joined: 2006/04/18 14:42:48
- Location: SW Scotland
- Status: offline
Re: Mouse trouble
2017/09/18 12:31:42
(permalink)
☄ Helpfulby craigb 2017/09/18 15:55:57
Peanut butter. They can't resist it. I caught 10 mice in 10 days in my kitchen cupboards a couple of weeks ago, had to get the local pest controller to set poison bait under all the cupboards. They're early this year, we usually get field mice coming in during the winter. Oh..just one female mouse can produce several hundred offspring in a year by the way...
Jyemz Thrombold's Patented Brisk Weather Pantaloonettes with Inclementometer
|
Leadfoot
Max Output Level: -47 dBFS
- Total Posts : 2817
- Joined: 2011/04/26 11:08:38
- Location: Indiana
- Status: offline
Re: Mouse trouble
2017/09/18 12:55:16
(permalink)
|
BobF
Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
- Total Posts : 8124
- Joined: 2003/11/05 18:43:11
- Location: Missouri - USA
- Status: offline
Re: Mouse trouble
2017/09/18 13:01:31
(permalink)
Yep, Peanut Butter. My shop/detached garage had the nasty little bastards a few years ago. They do prefer Jif over Peter Pan though. The traditional neck-snapper traps are the most effective IMX. I have had some jump into buckets after climbing ramps, but if you release them they will just make a few thousand more mice to deal with. If this one is staring you down, use a shop-vac on him!
Bob -- Angels are crying because truth has died ...Illegitimi non carborundum --Studio One Pro / i7-6700@3.80GHZ, 32GB Win 10 Pro x64 Roland FA06, LX61+, Fishman Tripleplay, FaderPort, US-16x08 + ARC2.5/Event PS8s Waves Gold/IKM Max/Nomad Factory IS3/K11U
|
UbiquitousBubba
Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
- Total Posts : 8912
- Joined: 2008/07/09 16:55:12
- Location: Everywhere Else
- Status: offline
Re: Mouse trouble
2017/09/18 13:12:33
(permalink)
According to the literature on the subject, you should not give him a cookie.
|
Slugbaby
Max Output Level: -33.5 dBFS
- Total Posts : 4172
- Joined: 2004/10/01 13:57:37
- Location: Toronto, Canada
- Status: offline
Re: Mouse trouble
2017/09/18 13:13:17
(permalink)
Go to the pound and get a cat.
|
bitman
Max Output Level: -34 dBFS
- Total Posts : 4105
- Joined: 2003/11/06 14:11:54
- Location: Keystone Colorado
- Status: offline
Re: Mouse trouble
2017/09/18 13:44:29
(permalink)
Mooch someone's cat. Or get one. The only mice you'll ever see are dead ones left out in open for you to dispose of. As for trap bait, yes Skippy.
|
DeeringAmps
Max Output Level: -49 dBFS
- Total Posts : 2614
- Joined: 2005/10/03 10:29:25
- Location: Seattle area
- Status: offline
Re: Mouse trouble
2017/09/18 13:54:21
(permalink)
Not all cats are good hunters, bad idea (IMHO). Dave you have to use the "killer" traps, baited with (as noted above) peanut butter. The "sticky" rat traps work as well (baited with a few small dabs of peanut butter), but again you'll have to "look 'em in the eyes". Wish I was closer, I'd take care of it for ya. My buddy Billy had a run of mice in the studio, moved into the console; shorted it out! Be quick, be ruthless, treat them like the vermin they are. Everything has a place in the cycle of life, but your studio is NOT the place for mice. I try to be a "live and let live" guy, but I have my "limits"... T
Tom Deering Tascam FW-1884 User Resources Page Firewire "Legacy" Tutorial, Service Manual, Schematic, and Service Bulletins Win10x64 StudioCat Pro Studio Coffee Lake 8086k 32gb RAM RME UFX (Audio) Tascam FW-1884 (Control) in Win 10x64 Pro
|
sharke
Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
- Total Posts : 13933
- Joined: 2012/08/03 00:13:00
- Location: NYC
- Status: offline
Re: Mouse trouble
2017/09/18 15:04:36
(permalink)
I had a mouse last year. It was coming and going through a hole in the radiator cover. One time I saw it disappear under my bed just as I was leaving for work. That pissed me off, so I took one of those clear plastic food boxes and rattled the bed until he was scared out of there. He ran out so I trapped him in a corner and he just stood there frozen, scared out of his mind. I put the box over him, slid a piece of card underneath and then took him to a grassy, tree covered area outside. I can't kill them. Some years ago a client offered me $20 per mouse to go into her larder and dispose of the mice on her glue traps. Sounded like easy money, so I went in there to find about 12 of the buggers writhing around, helplessly stuck. They were babies and squealing like there was no tomorrow. All I could do was pick the traps up and throw them into a trash bag, only when I lifted them some started peeling off and leaving their scalp behind and yelping in pain. It was like something out of a horror movie. Never again.
JamesWindows 10, Sonar SPlat (64-bit), Intel i7-4930K, 32GB RAM, RME Babyface, AKAI MPK Mini, Roland A-800 Pro, Focusrite VRM Box, Komplete 10 Ultimate, 2012 American Telecaster!
|
Slugbaby
Max Output Level: -33.5 dBFS
- Total Posts : 4172
- Joined: 2004/10/01 13:57:37
- Location: Toronto, Canada
- Status: offline
Re: Mouse trouble
2017/09/18 15:12:17
(permalink)
sharke I can't kill them. Some years ago a client offered me $20 per mouse to go into her larder and dispose of the mice on her glue traps. Sounded like easy money, so I went in there to find about 12 of the buggers writhing around, helplessly stuck. They were babies and squealing like there was no tomorrow. All I could do was pick the traps up and throw them into a trash bag, only when I lifted them some started peeling off and leaving their scalp behind and yelping in pain. It was like something out of a horror movie. Never again.
I used glue traps once, and it was heartbreaking. I put them in a bucket of water to put them out of their misery as quickly as possible, but it was really traumatizing.
|
bapu
Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
- Total Posts : 86000
- Joined: 2006/11/25 21:23:28
- Location: Thousand Oaks, CA
- Status: offline
Re: Mouse trouble
2017/09/18 16:13:31
(permalink)
I treat all manner of vermin/insect in my home/studio as I would intruders. Go for the jugular. Swiftly.
|
craigb
Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
- Total Posts : 41704
- Joined: 2009/01/28 23:13:04
- Location: The Pacific Northwestshire
- Status: offline
Re: Mouse trouble
2017/09/18 16:13:45
(permalink)
I also had a glue-trap horror story - can't do those again! There was also this time when we had one in our apartment and I happened to catch him by the front door (which was right next to the kitchen where he liked to hang out). It was hilarious afterwards, because he KNEW he was caught so he just sat down and gazed up at me trying to look as cute as he could. He didn't even freak out as I started to open the front door. I literally told him "Ok, now out you go!" and he turned around and left! My girlfriend at the time was watching from the living room and crying from laughing. She said I wimped out, but it earned several brownie points at the same time. The "other" rodent story was a rat problem the apartment complex was having (same place as before down in Irvine California). The maintenance guys had given us two huge rat traps to put out on the balcony near the palm trees. One summer night, just as we were starting to drift off to sleep, we hear ***BANG!!!*** then this sickening flopping sound right outside our bedroom sliding glass door. I looked at Michelle, she looked at me, then she said "Are you going to look?" Me: "Nope!" After a bit of prodding, I finally tilted a vertical blind slat out of the way but, fortunately, all I could see was an upside-down trap with a long tail coming out of it. We let the maintenance guys deal with in the next morning - heh...
Time for all of you to head over to Beyond My DAW!
|
bapu
Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
- Total Posts : 86000
- Joined: 2006/11/25 21:23:28
- Location: Thousand Oaks, CA
- Status: offline
Re: Mouse trouble
2017/09/18 16:14:04
(permalink)
☄ Helpfulby BobF 2017/09/18 16:18:27
Oh yeah, +1 on the peanut butter if a hammer is not available.
|
jamesg1213
Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
- Total Posts : 21760
- Joined: 2006/04/18 14:42:48
- Location: SW Scotland
- Status: offline
Re: Mouse trouble
2017/09/18 16:58:39
(permalink)
One thing I'd add, if you're going to use the 'neck snapper' traps, put them in a shoebox or similar with a small hole big enough for the mouse. Mice can spring the trap and get a leg stuck in them and drag the trap off. I lost two traps like that, managed to retrieve one from under the cupboard floor with wriggling mouse attached, but the other one was nowhere to be seen.
Jyemz Thrombold's Patented Brisk Weather Pantaloonettes with Inclementometer
|
sharke
Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
- Total Posts : 13933
- Joined: 2012/08/03 00:13:00
- Location: NYC
- Status: offline
Re: Mouse trouble
2017/09/18 17:36:37
(permalink)
Of course there's always cats.
JamesWindows 10, Sonar SPlat (64-bit), Intel i7-4930K, 32GB RAM, RME Babyface, AKAI MPK Mini, Roland A-800 Pro, Focusrite VRM Box, Komplete 10 Ultimate, 2012 American Telecaster!
|
57Gregy
Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
- Total Posts : 14404
- Joined: 2004/05/31 17:04:17
- Location: Raleigh, North Carolina
- Status: offline
Re: Mouse trouble
2017/09/18 17:52:12
(permalink)
My friend Jami had mouse problems and used the old-fashioned traps. She told me of one incident where the mouse didn't get completely into the trap and the bar chopped its snout off. She followed the trail of blood to find the creature behind her spice rack, writhing in pain. She switched to the 'catch and contain' traps after that.
|
tom1
Max Output Level: -79 dBFS
- Total Posts : 559
- Joined: 2008/03/23 16:40:52
- Status: offline
Re: Mouse trouble
2017/09/18 17:56:24
(permalink)
I had good luck with electronic types of pest elimination as far as roaches go. Not sure if they get rid of mice.
Sonar Producer X2/ProTools/Cubase/Reaper Studio Cat 32 Gig Ram East West: Hollywood Strings/Brass/Woodwinds/Goliath Kontakt Ultimate / FabFilter Bundle / EaReverb / Maag4 / Izotope Ozone 5 / Izotope RX2 / Elastique / Waves
|
Beepster
Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
- Total Posts : 18001
- Joined: 2012/05/11 19:11:24
- Status: offline
Re: Mouse trouble
2017/09/18 17:59:18
(permalink)
As a former rat owner/lover PLEEEEEASE do not use the glue traps!! They are extremely inhumane. They take way to long to kill the critters who in the meantime break/rip off their own legs tear off their fur/flesh trying to get away. My old boss made me put them out (to my objections) and going around collecting them was awful. Sometimes just patches of fur and/or legs but no mouse. When he first bought them he was following me around making sure I was indeed putting them out. Within a couple minutes we heard some squeaking from the kitchen area and sure enough there was one in the trap struggling to get away. I grabbed it to put it out of it's misery and good ole bossy man snatched it out of my hands and said "No! Let the little [REDACTED] suffer!!" as he glared into its little eyes. Eventually he wandered off. As soon as he did I went back, picked up the trap (with the mouse attached still struggling), put at the bottom of my big garbage can and chopped its head off with a sidewalk scraper. Nasty. They also have a tendency to get stuck to wires, furniture, pets and anything else and the glue is a bugger to clean off. The snappy traps are the way to go if you aren't willing to go the "catch and release" trap method. If you DO get the C&R route make sure you check them daily so they don't slowly starve to death (worse than just killing them) and when you release them you gotta do it waaaaaaay away from your house or they'll just come right back in. That of course is a pain in the butt and house mice likely won't do well in the wild (2nd gen onward) so snappy traps are the way to go IMO. And yeah... peanut butter. Also get a bunch of fine steel wool and plug up any holes/air gaps you can find. Mice/rats will chew/crawl through anything but the steel wool messes up their mouse and jabs their skin so they don't come through. For extra mouseproofing get sheets of aluminum (not foil) and attach them over said holes or even completely covere the bottom foot or so of your walls. They can't get through it at all. So steel wool keeps the out of the walls and the aluminum sheets keep the from breaching the walls if they happen to make it through the mesh gauntlet. I like mice too but they can get really out of control REALLY fast and poop/pee all over everything... which is icky.
|
bapu
Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
- Total Posts : 86000
- Joined: 2006/11/25 21:23:28
- Location: Thousand Oaks, CA
- Status: offline
Re: Mouse trouble
2017/09/18 18:02:53
(permalink)
We have trouble with outdoor rats chewing up the NOC lines on our vehicles (we park outdoors as the studio is our converted garage). It seems that rats are adverse to moth balls. Keeps them away. Maybe mice too?
|
Beepster
Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
- Total Posts : 18001
- Joined: 2012/05/11 19:11:24
- Status: offline
Re: Mouse trouble
2017/09/18 18:04:39
(permalink)
Slugbaby I used glue traps once, and it was heartbreaking. I put them in a bucket of water to put them out of their misery as quickly as possible, but it was really traumatizing.
I euthanized my last rat by drawing it a warm bath and holding it under until it stopped moving. It had gotten really sick, really fast in the middle of the night (had a huge tumor on it's side) so I fed her strawberries (her favorite food) until she stopped licking the juice of my fingers then did the deed. Very sad. Years later I asked my buddy who breeds/raises pet rats what he does/what is the most humane way and he said to put them in the freezer. They just go to sleep then freeze to death.
|
bapu
Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
- Total Posts : 86000
- Joined: 2006/11/25 21:23:28
- Location: Thousand Oaks, CA
- Status: offline
Re: Mouse trouble
2017/09/18 18:07:09
(permalink)
Seems goggle sez mostly no on the mice if they are already there. It "may" keep them from entering anew.
|
bapu
Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
- Total Posts : 86000
- Joined: 2006/11/25 21:23:28
- Location: Thousand Oaks, CA
- Status: offline
Re: Mouse trouble
2017/09/18 18:08:03
(permalink)
|
Beepster
Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
- Total Posts : 18001
- Joined: 2012/05/11 19:11:24
- Status: offline
Re: Mouse trouble
2017/09/18 18:08:41
(permalink)
bapu We have trouble with outdoor rats chewing up the NOC lines on our vehicles (we park outdoors as the studio is our converted garage). It seems that rats are adverse to moth balls. Keeps them away. Maybe mice too?
Huh. Never heard that one. Interesting. Oh and as far as poison goes... it definitely works but the problem is they go off to their nest to dies (usually in your walls) so you end up with a stink. Also if you have a cat or other animals and they eat the poisoned rat they can get really sick or worse. The main ingredient is warfarin (a blood thinner that is used to treat heart conditions but at really low dosages) which essentially liquifies their insides. Kind of like ebola. Not sure how much suffering is involved there but I can't imagine that's very pleasant.
|
Beepster
Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
- Total Posts : 18001
- Joined: 2012/05/11 19:11:24
- Status: offline
Re: Mouse trouble
2017/09/18 18:17:14
(permalink)
I wonder if spraying accessible cables with something unappetizing like bug spray would keep the from gnawing on them. I HATE when they get at the cabling... especially when said cables are proprietary or hardwired to a device.
|
bapu
Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
- Total Posts : 86000
- Joined: 2006/11/25 21:23:28
- Location: Thousand Oaks, CA
- Status: offline
Re: Mouse trouble
2017/09/18 18:20:07
(permalink)
For us, each car was "attacked" once. After we started using the moth balls, never again for over two years now. Again, this is an outdoor solution to an outdoor problem.
|
eph221
Max Output Level: -28.5 dBFS
- Total Posts : 4665
- Joined: 2014/12/22 05:06:50
- Status: offline
Re: Mouse trouble
2017/09/18 18:22:06
(permalink)
Slugbaby Go to the pound and get a cat.
Yes. Why do you fear cats!
*Q-TIPS ARE FUZZY!!* Is a lumineer a new dental appliance? i7 2.5 ghz 32GB RAM WINDOWS 10 My Ass Cubase 9.5
|
eph221
Max Output Level: -28.5 dBFS
- Total Posts : 4665
- Joined: 2014/12/22 05:06:50
- Status: offline
Re: Mouse trouble
2017/09/18 18:23:19
(permalink)
tom1 I had good luck with electronic types of pest elimination as far as roaches go. Not sure if they get rid of mice.
These work great!
*Q-TIPS ARE FUZZY!!* Is a lumineer a new dental appliance? i7 2.5 ghz 32GB RAM WINDOWS 10 My Ass Cubase 9.5
|
eph221
Max Output Level: -28.5 dBFS
- Total Posts : 4665
- Joined: 2014/12/22 05:06:50
- Status: offline
Re: Mouse trouble
2017/09/18 18:23:26
(permalink)
tom1 I had good luck with electronic types of pest elimination as far as roaches go. Not sure if they get rid of mice.
These work great!
*Q-TIPS ARE FUZZY!!* Is a lumineer a new dental appliance? i7 2.5 ghz 32GB RAM WINDOWS 10 My Ass Cubase 9.5
|
eph221
Max Output Level: -28.5 dBFS
- Total Posts : 4665
- Joined: 2014/12/22 05:06:50
- Status: offline
Re: Mouse trouble
2017/09/18 18:23:24
(permalink)
tom1 I had good luck with electronic types of pest elimination as far as roaches go. Not sure if they get rid of mice.
These work great!
*Q-TIPS ARE FUZZY!!* Is a lumineer a new dental appliance? i7 2.5 ghz 32GB RAM WINDOWS 10 My Ass Cubase 9.5
|
eph221
Max Output Level: -28.5 dBFS
- Total Posts : 4665
- Joined: 2014/12/22 05:06:50
- Status: offline
Re: Mouse trouble
2017/09/18 18:23:30
(permalink)
tom1 I had good luck with electronic types of pest elimination as far as roaches go. Not sure if they get rid of mice.
These work great!
*Q-TIPS ARE FUZZY!!* Is a lumineer a new dental appliance? i7 2.5 ghz 32GB RAM WINDOWS 10 My Ass Cubase 9.5
|