Moving Sonar projects from one PC to another PC

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2017/02/09 16:30:57 (permalink)

Moving Sonar projects from one PC to another PC

I have a friend who uses Sonar. He wanted to try remixing some of my projects.
My question is, when I copy the project files do I need to copy other files to include my Mix Recall Scenes? Or will those Mix Recall Scenes be included with the project file?
I always save my Mix Recall then immediately save the project.
I am just using a USB drive. I use SPLAT, mainly just Mix Scene Recall and just the Waves Platinum bundle. He has the same plugins so would those plugins show up on his PC as well?
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    THambrecht
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    Re: Moving Sonar projects from one PC to another PC 2017/02/09 19:02:33 (permalink)
    We work on 4 computers with the same plugins. And open projects in the network.
    That works perfectly.
    All plugins must be installed in the same way. No mismatch between VST2 and VST3. And all have to be the same version. The Mixscenes are saved within the project folder.
    So you can copy the complete project folder to an USB drive.
    You can send a small test-project without audio but with all your plugins via internet to your friend. So it tooks only a little storage place. Then you can see what happens with the plugins by your friend.

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    Re: Moving Sonar projects from one PC to another PC 2017/02/09 19:35:40 (permalink)
    As long as you are using a per project folders everything should be in your projects folder.  
     
    Look and see. 
    There should be the CWP icon , the Audio folder and the Mix Recall folder inside. 
     
    I transfer a lot between machines. 
     
    My method for most songs is-  I open a Template or a blank project (same thing) and immediately perform a "Save As".
    During this save, I browse to the location I want to save the project, which will be a sub folder of my Data drive, Say, " Original Songs"  folder. 
    I open that, create a new folder,
    name it for the new song (project),
    open that folder, check the Copy all audio box,
    name the new song and save it.  
    I also put any MIDI files and lyrics in that folder, everything to do with that song is in that folder. 
    I will then drag and drop this folder to a back up drive to transfer. 
    This creates a back up file which I will date. 
    This stay on this drive and can be transferred to any other computer.
    If I update the song on the second computer, I then drag and drop it back to the external drive and change the date. 
    I do not delete any versions until I'm 100% certain this is OK to do. 
     

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    Re: Moving Sonar projects from one PC to another PC 2017/02/10 10:46:23 (permalink)
    Thanks for the tips! I will check this out tonight when I am at my PC.
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    Re: Moving Sonar projects from one PC to another PC 2017/02/10 14:54:15 (permalink)
    Is there a way to set per project folders as a setting in SPLAT?  Don't mean to hijack thread but just curious.

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    Re: Moving Sonar projects from one PC to another PC 2017/02/10 16:32:29 (permalink)
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    As long as you are using a per project folders everything should be in your projects folder.  
     
    Look and see. 
    There should be the CWP icon , the Audio folder and the Mix Recall folder inside.
     

    And I did not do Save As. So, I have the CWP icon there. In order to find the Audio folder and the Mix Recall folder, I am going to have to search for them right? And the files inside those folders should be named something similar to the Project (CWP icon) name, right?
    Once I find them, can I move them to their own project folder without destroying anything on the song/project?
    Just want to make sure moving those folders will not mess anything up with song - I spent tons of time perfecting Melodyne harmonies, guitar tones, etc.
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    Re: Moving Sonar projects from one PC to another PC 2017/02/10 17:46:00 (permalink)
    jimkleban
    Is there a way to set per project folders as a setting in SPLAT?  Don't mean to hijack thread but just curious.


    I believe per project audio is the default behaviour in Sonar Platinum now. The only exception is when you create a new project without naming it, in which case it will default to the global audio folder.

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    Re: Moving Sonar projects from one PC to another PC 2017/02/11 19:41:57 (permalink)
    Surely sending a bundle file would be more convenient than the project folders?
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    Re: Moving Sonar projects from one PC to another PC 2017/02/11 20:38:10 (permalink)
    There,s no need for bundles if everything is in a folder like Johnny say,s. I,ve had bun files go bad on me so I don,t like them.
    And you can easily accomplish this by the following
    Open project. Is it all there? If so
    SAVE AS
    Check the copy audio with project box
    Browse to the storage location
    Now save it.
    All the project stuff will be in that folder now.

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    Re: Moving Sonar projects from one PC to another PC 2017/02/11 20:44:43 (permalink)
    sock monkey
    There,s no need for bundles if everything is in a folder like Johnny say,s. I,ve had bun files go bad on me so I don,t like them.
    And you can easily accomplish this by the following
    Open project. Is it all there? If so
    SAVE AS
    Check the copy audio with project box
    Browse to the storage location
    Now save it.
    All the project stuff will be in that folder now.



    I believe you're referring to those older .bun files. I'm referring to .cwb files, which I've never had a problem with when transferring from one system to another.
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    Re: Moving Sonar projects from one PC to another PC 2017/02/11 22:32:31 (permalink)
    I'm talking when I was using X3. There are things that don,t get saved like regional effects so I switched to using folders and CWP files and have never had a screwup since.

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    Re: Moving Sonar projects from one PC to another PC 2017/02/13 18:43:20 (permalink)
    sock monkey
    I'm talking when I was using X3. There are things that don,t get saved like regional effects so I switched to using folders and CWP files and have never had a screwup since.



    The OP has SPLAT, not X3.
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    Re: Moving Sonar projects from one PC to another PC 2017/02/13 18:49:57 (permalink)
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    sock monkey
    I'm talking when I was using X3. There are things that don,t get saved like regional effects so I switched to using folders and CWP files and have never had a screwup since.



    The OP has SPLAT, not X3.


    It doesn't matter (the versions).
    Older bundle files are basically the same format still used now in the CWB files.
    I've had my issues with bundle files in the past as well. I only save Cakewalk project files Saved in per project folders. Its bullet proof compared to Bun files.

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    Re: Moving Sonar projects from one PC to another PC 2017/02/14 09:11:10 (permalink)
    So, if I have the CWP file titled "Song X" on its own then I will have to find the Mix Recall and Audio folders. Then if I just move them into their own folder will that mess with the project when I open it? Does Sonar know where to look for those folders on its own?
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    Re: Moving Sonar projects from one PC to another PC 2017/02/14 09:56:39 (permalink)
    Sam4246
    So, if I have the CWP file titled "Song X" on its own then I will have to find the Mix Recall and Audio folders. Then if I just move them into their own folder will that mess with the project when I open it? Does Sonar know where to look for those folders on its own?

    When you "Save As" Per project folders you should have one hierarchy folder.
    Inside that folder you have your Audio folder (with all your wave files inside of it).
    And your Mix scenes (sometimes also a Melodyne folder as well).
    You also have your CWP file in the hierarchy folder.
     
    Yes Sonar will find the Mix scenes if you open up the folder because Sonar looks in the hierarchy project folder.

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    Re: Moving Sonar projects from one PC to another PC 2017/02/14 10:06:58 (permalink)
    Are you not reading the answers, Sock Monkey explained how to use "save as" to do this easily. Now Chuck has told you again.

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    Re: Moving Sonar projects from one PC to another PC 2017/02/14 10:23:28 (permalink)
    Cactus Music
    Are you not reading the answers, Sock Monkey explained how to use "save as" to do this easily. Now Chuck has told you again.

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