Chrisma
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Moving to Windows 8 and X2 Producer For Touch
Currently rockin X1 on XP and finally making the move up Win 8 and X2. Starting on a laptop first and will do my desktop (main DAW) after I get ALL kinks sorted. Too many developers that I depend on are moving away from XP. I only use SONAR for mixing. I mainly track and compose in Ableton and Motu BPM. I have a laptop coming that has a touch screen and I just grabbed X2 on sale yesterday. Plan on getting a touch screen monitor for my desktop as well. Honestly touch is one of the the main reasons I upgraded but I also look forward to using VSTs in PC. I wanted to hear feedback from those of you mixing with Touch in X2. What has been your experience?
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joeb1cannoli
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Re:Moving to Windows 8 and X2 Producer For Touch
2013/06/01 13:49:57
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I've been on Windows 8 64 bit since December. I have an Acer 27" touch screen and I'm loving it. As long as there are Widows 8 drivers for all of your hardware, I wouldn't hesitate. I did the Windows 8 update on my DAW PC . After the update there is a function in W8 ,I think it's called "refresh". It puts a clean install of W8 on your PC and puts all of your documents in a "Windows Old" file. You will need to re-install all of your apps I may be the lucky guy that has the magic combination in my DIY PC, but I've had zero issues. I don't miss the start menu at all Give the touch screen some time. The day that I connected it I was a bit disappointed. Once I got used to how it responds,it became an indispensable tool. I do have my touch monitor mounted horizontally so that it's like a control surface. I'm sure that this adds to the experience.
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Chrisma
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Re:Moving to Windows 8 and X2 Producer For Touch
2013/06/01 20:19:52
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Thank for the insights Joeb1 and wow a 27" touchscreen...now that's what I'm talking about. I read in another post that PC and the faders are not quit there yet with Touch. What specifically has been your experience with PC and the faders in the console view? Also, are you running at 1920x1080?
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Re:Moving to Windows 8 and X2 Producer For Touch
2013/06/01 21:20:06
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I like my touch screen. Mine is on a stand that makes it easy to rotate the monitor and change the physical orientation. I like it, but I'm really fast on the keyboard, so I still use the mouse and keyboard in addition to the touch screen. I like the touch screen while recording. I can mess with synths and amp sims by just touching them. It's direct and easy. I think you'll be happy. I am.
StudioCat > I use Windows 10 and Sonar Platinum. I have a touch screen. I make some videos. This one shows how to do a physical loopback on the RME UCX to get many more equalizer nodes.
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Chrisma
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Re:Moving to Windows 8 and X2 Producer For Touch
2013/06/01 22:24:41
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Hey Gswitz....your comments are interesting because some else posting something similar to what your saying. Its seems like touch becomes an addition to your workflow and not the main tool. I would not have thought that. Cool idea about the stand too. Seems like there aren't any real issues or glitches with it. Has that been your experience? Thanks for sharing...
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Re:Moving to Windows 8 and X2 Producer For Touch
2013/06/01 22:40:07
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Yes. No issues. I like it. I probably could use it for more than I currently do. I'm a guitar player hobbyist. So this has nothing to do with sonar, but I think it is interesting anyway. I play lumosity games. I've been doing it daily for a few years so I know how I tend to score. The touch screen is only a big help on a few of the games. For the most part the keyboard is still faster. Now the games never benefit from multi touch which sonar does benefit from. I just think it's interesting. The biggest thing is I don't spend time wiring up my alpha track. Touch is obvious and easy. It is easy to get started.
StudioCat > I use Windows 10 and Sonar Platinum. I have a touch screen. I make some videos. This one shows how to do a physical loopback on the RME UCX to get many more equalizer nodes.
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joeb1cannoli
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Re:Moving to Windows 8 and X2 Producer For Touch
2013/06/02 11:12:10
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I'm much happier with fader control using the touch screen than when I used the 8 faders on my Axiom 49 and ACT. You can adjust a fader on track 1 and track 24 at the same time! You can't do that with an eight fader control surface. It's not perfect but IMHO it blows away an eight fader control surface using ACT. No need to keep track of "where am I" Navigating and zooming in track view is where the touch screen really shines
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Chrisma
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Re:Moving to Windows 8 and X2 Producer For Touch
2013/06/02 12:55:07
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Hey Joeb1, Not having to deal with banks of faders on my Novation Impulse and being able to get right to a fader or ProChannel module is exactly what I am looking forward to being able to do. So excited! Thanks for sharing.
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Re:Moving to Windows 8 and X2 Producer For Touch
2013/06/03 06:34:32
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Positioning it horizontally is one of touch best in sonar Imho. Its like actually riding on a mixer. How about turning knobs is it also possible?
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joeb1cannoli
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Re:Moving to Windows 8 and X2 Producer For Touch
2013/06/03 08:38:57
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Yes you can turn knobs. It gets tricky with things like the EQ knobs in Pro Channel. I find myself using the mouse for those. Pan and effects sends work well. Buttons like solo,mute etc. also work well. Another thing I find myself using often is previewing drum VSTi . For example, I can open BFD2s property page and touch the drums in the GUI to preview them. VST effects are hit and miss. The sliders in Breverb work well. Some other 3rd party stuff , not so well. By the way, my screen is only 23". In an earlier post I mistakenly put 27" (wishful thinking)
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Re:Moving to Windows 8 and X2 Producer For Touch
2013/06/03 10:05:58
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I can say I already have a second touch screen on my wish list.
StudioCat > I use Windows 10 and Sonar Platinum. I have a touch screen. I make some videos. This one shows how to do a physical loopback on the RME UCX to get many more equalizer nodes.
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Chrisma
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Re:Moving to Windows 8 and X2 Producer For Touch
2013/06/03 13:21:26
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joeb1cannoli Yes you can turn knobs. It gets tricky with things like the EQ knobs in Pro Channel. I find myself using the mouse for those. Pan and effects sends work well. Buttons like solo,mute etc. also work well. Another thing I find myself using often is previewing drum VSTi . For example, I can open BFD2s property page and touch the drums in the GUI to preview them. VST effects are hit and miss. The sliders in Breverb work well. Some other 3rd party stuff , not so well. By the way, my screen is only 23". In an earlier post I mistakenly put 27" (wishful thinking) Too bad about ProChannel and Touch. I really wanted to that to work well. Do you think it would be better on a 27" (I saw where you said you had a 23")? Yeah I'm thinking working with Motu BPM is going to be pretty nice for programming beats and composing. I love UVI sounds.
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Chrisma
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Re:Moving to Windows 8 and X2 Producer For Touch
2013/06/09 09:08:47
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So I got my laptop with touch a few days and I'm finding it to be pretty nice. I totally like it in general. I just installed X2 today and did a quick check and I gotta say: "Cakewalk, ya did good." I'm sure some enhancements are coming but for a first team feature Touch seems to be well implemented Checking out my plugins with X2/Win8 and want to do a mix on it here soon. But so far looks like I will be getting a 23" Acer for desktop after I upgrade to 8 gig of ram and Windows8. In depth review coming later.
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Re:Moving to Windows 8 and X2 Producer For Touch
2013/06/09 18:14:22
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I wish I could join in on the windows 8 touchscreen back slapping. I think the implementation is quite underwhelming. I have written about this elsewhere, but the main problem is that the touch support is just a tack on. In order to make it truly integrated the graphics and in particular the size of items needs to be addressed. Some clever stuff like rotaries that grow when touched needs to happen. At the moment its all a bit fiddly and twitchy. The potential is enormous, but can Cakewalk spare the time and resources to develop in a direction that so few users can access at this time. Probably not.
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