Mr. Anderton - Sonic Core Xite

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2014/04/23 11:15:59 (permalink)

Mr. Anderton - Sonic Core Xite

I read your review from - what - 1999? ... ;)

I might purchase a Xite-1, used, but I'm not sure, it's quite an investment and honestly, sonic core does not look like a vivid company currently, people speculating wether the xite is dead...

What is your opinion? Do you still use a xite? Does the software show its age, compared to the current vst world, sound quality wise...?
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    Anderton
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    Re: Mr. Anderton - Sonic Core Xite 2014/04/23 21:19:38 (permalink)
    Tough question. What blows my mind is that my SCOPE card STILL works, even with 64-bit Windows. I really have to take my hat off to Sonic Core for updating the original SCOPE drivers to let people continue using a board they bought, what, almost a quarter century ago?!?! If that doesn't define customer support, I don't know what does.
     
    Much has changed in the world since SCOPE appeared. The system can still be a bit touchy if you want to use the plug-ins as VST plug-ins within a host, but that's not the point. The point is to use a host within the virtualized SCOPE studio. In that sense, it's like Sonar becoming a multitrack recorder (with all its plug-ins, of course) surrounded by virtualized hardware that actually uses hardware for processing.
     
    While the system remains viable and some of their concepts lie somewhere between brilliant and ultra-genius, a program like Sonar X3e with its rich collection of plug-ins can deliver in a native format what it took a ton of SHARC DSP to do not that long ago.
     
    The xcite's audio quality is excellent, and if you're stressing out your computer with huge projects, offloading it to hardware still makes sense. In many ways, SCOPE took the Pro Tools idea of DSP-assisted systems in a direction that I believe was far more daring and innovative. However, as much as I respect the technology and the people who brought it back to life, IMHO it's a fairly niche - albeit brilliant - product. If you're in that niche, go for it. If not, you can probably find other solutions.

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    Re: Mr. Anderton - Sonic Core Xite 2014/04/23 22:57:43 (permalink)
    Hi I have owned a couple of Luna cards and a Pulsar II, a few years ago now but they were excellent, the sounds that you could get out of them were truly amazing.  It is amazing that the company are still in operation, they went bankrupt in the early 2000's and were only kept afloat via a protection application in a Germany court.  They were then reinvigorated via the X-Cite stuff but I think they lost money on a couple of their more whacky ideas ie: a hardware version of their mini-moog emulator.
     
    I sold my cards a few years ago because the company is terminal although they are still in business...just, and as far as I know they still have customer support.
     
    My advice to you is proceed cautiously, if I remember the X-Cite was PCI-Express and you could even get a laptop card back in the day.  Of course this is old tech now and getting a computer with a PCI express slot is getting harder, hence the reason I sold my cards and moved on.  If its a few hundred bucks and you have the connecter then I would purchase, but I would not pay anymore than a few hundred bucks.  My Creamware cards as they were originally known, cost about $3600 approx and I sold the lot for 300 bucks, so keep those figures in mind too.
     
    Cheers Ben    

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    Re: Mr. Anderton - Sonic Core Xite 2014/04/23 23:02:54 (permalink)
    Oh and I agree with Craig, this is why I have moved on from DSP cards including UAD (which I have owned too) these days native processing is sufficient enough.  DSP cards were introduced into the audio world when computing was still in it's infancy and a gig of ram seemed like a lot and cost an a arm and a leg.  A 64 bit operating system with 8 gig of ram and a multi processer CPU kicks a DSP cards arse!!  And the native plug-in emulators are as good as the DSP versions now anyway.  IE: Sonars SSL and Console emulators are really good and unless your looking for something boutique both are are sufficient.
     
    Ben

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