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"Mrs.Goodmood" DADGAD- guitar by Morenoise

Hi All, little guitar piece in DADGAD tuning, borrowed a bit from O'Carrolan but the rest is all my own work, honest . Inspired by a forum members comments about a dancing nymph, thanks Malcolm. Composed as a "thank you"  for a friend.

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    Re:"Mrs.Goodmood" DADGAD- guitar by Morenoise 2011/03/05 09:24:03 (permalink)
    Simply beautiful!  :-)
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    Re:"Mrs.Goodmood" DADGAD- guitar by Morenoise 2011/03/05 09:28:22 (permalink)
    It's very nice.


    The droning fills up the space and makes it seems really full and rich.

    It is a lovely melody as well.

    The over all mix and vibe seems complete and fully realized.

    Thanks for sharing!


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    Re:"Mrs.Goodmood" DADGAD- guitar by Morenoise 2011/03/05 10:10:59 (permalink)
    Hi Janet, thanks 


    Hi Mike, thanks for listening and comments. Nothing beats a good drone for filling up empty space 


    Hi Mr.Larry, thanks for listening, I march to my own beat anyway so don't worry .


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    Re:"Mrs.Goodmood" DADGAD- guitar by Morenoise 2011/03/05 10:46:14 (permalink)


    Nice

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    Re:"Mrs.Goodmood" DADGAD- guitar by Morenoise 2011/03/05 11:19:58 (permalink)
    Awesome tune.  Agree with Larry about the beat.  The song has a great flow that gets interrupted once in a while.

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    Re:"Mrs.Goodmood" DADGAD- guitar by Morenoise 2011/03/05 11:53:36 (permalink)
    Hi John, 


    Hi Mark,  Thanks. I never think about "the beat" in these kind of pieces. I  compose short themes that could be in different time signatures or keys and when I have a couple that I like, I start arranging them in what ever sequence I like. The first thing I always do when recording. is turning of the metronome, glad you noticed 


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    Re:"Mrs.Goodmood" DADGAD- guitar by Morenoise 2011/03/05 15:57:58 (permalink)
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    Hi John, 


    Hi Mark,  Thanks. I never think about "the beat" in these kind of pieces. I  compose short themes that could be in different time signatures or keys and when I have a couple that I like, I start arranging them in what ever sequence I like. The first thing I always do when recording. is turning of the metronome, glad you noticed 


    Greetings, Rik


    Hi Mr.Larry, thanks for listening, I march to my own beat anyway so don't worry .


    Greetings, Rik

    So then basically your saying that you come up with several different themes, slap them together and if they fit great, if not oh well too bad...I'll just jam them in there......cause I march to my own beat....

    The reason you missed several of your hammers and pulls are because they do not fit with in the meter you set out for yourself....Jez...Even John Cage worried about meter of some sort.......at some point.....I'm sure that if you said this to some one like Leo Kottke, Elizabeth Cotton, Steve Goodman, or any other professional musicians they would probably not give you a second thought.

    since you do not worry about the beat the end result is a non continuous melodic line which interuptes your melodic line.....and of course your listeners and their enjoyment of a percieved melodic line......no matter how much your drone fills it still cannot fix this thought pattern.

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    Re:"Mrs.Goodmood" DADGAD- guitar by Morenoise 2011/03/05 17:02:40 (permalink)
    Hi Clifford, thanks for listening. I don't think I've made it very clear how I compose. First of all I don't just jam pieces in where they don't seem to belong regardless of key or meter or care for the listener. I find pieces that do fit together and make longer sections as a songwriter would do to make up a verse. To break the monotony I like my pieces to have a "bridge" section. In this case it's a little waltz. The joy for me as a solo guitar player is that I can march to my own beat, I can slow down or speed up when I want to. That's something different than not caring about meter, it may not be the meter you like but there is a meter in there. To my best knowledge this piece has all the hammer-ons and pull-offs in the right places, again they may not be where you expect them or even would like them. Since I'm not a professional musician I have the luxury to play what I want and how I want. I don't even consider myself a musician, I'm a guitar player and just don't worry about accepted musical practices. If I would I don't think I would compose much anymore.

    Greetings,Rik
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    Re:"Mrs.Goodmood" DADGAD- guitar by Morenoise 2011/03/05 17:15:42 (permalink)
    So...you march to your own beat?  So maybe this song is reflective of the friend you wrote it for?  :-)
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    Re:"Mrs.Goodmood" DADGAD- guitar by Morenoise 2011/03/05 17:18:51 (permalink)
    Madam, you've said it. 
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    Re:"Mrs.Goodmood" DADGAD- guitar by Morenoise 2011/03/05 17:20:48 (permalink)
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    Re:"Mrs.Goodmood" DADGAD- guitar by Morenoise 2011/03/05 17:57:54 (permalink)
    (Musical) Rules are for the following of fools and the guidance of wise men (and women do not want to loose any thing precious )

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    Re:"Mrs.Goodmood" DADGAD- guitar by Morenoise 2011/03/05 18:18:48 (permalink)
    Very nice playing!  Wish I could yield an axe like that!

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    Re:"Mrs.Goodmood" DADGAD- guitar by Morenoise 2011/03/05 18:33:48 (permalink)
    John, Thanks. Brave man D.B.

    Pat ,Thanks for listening, you're thinking of the wrong instrument, it's a guitar .


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    Re:"Mrs.Goodmood" DADGAD- guitar by Morenoise 2011/03/06 10:59:55 (permalink)
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    Hi Clifford, thanks for listening. I don't think I've made it very clear how I compose. First of all I don't just jam pieces in where they don't seem to belong regardless of key or meter or care for the listener.

    Well if that is the case then how come you seem to have these little confusion points  that lose the beat....or meter......

    Because as you've said you turn off your metronome when recording....now you have some compositional idea that you are trying to play inside a meter (beat) and don't make it because you have no idea of the relationship of melodic line to the current meter / beat ......therefore your musical idea stumbles, there is a loss of musical structure and a loss of flow to your line......

    kind of hard on the listener....but I guess as you state a little farther down you don't care because you do not consider yourself a musician, you march to your own beat  and don't care about accepted musical pratices so this should just be fine........


    I find pieces that do fit together and make longer sections as a songwriter would do to make up a verse. To break the monotony I like my pieces to have a "bridge" section. In this case it's a little waltz.


    The joy for me as a solo guitar player is that I can march to my own beat, I can slow down or speed up when I want to. That's something different than not caring about meter, it may not be the meter you like but there is a meter in there.

    I'm not talking about a meter that "I" like or not......I'm talking  about just staying in tempo and having your melodic line fit within the tempo you are currently playing in without losing the pulse (beat / meter) .....

    By turning off your metronome (or better yet I would guess that you do not even practice your composition with a metronome in the first place, before you record it so that you have a grasp of where the meter / beat is) you lose concept of (again) the relationship between melodic Line/idea to the pulse of your "composition" ..........and this shows in your recording because your are trying to Jam the melodic content into a section that it may not fit.....there fore you lose concept of your meter / beat.....

    All great composers find the use of slowing down a "Little" and then Returning back to tempo,  a compositional / preformance practice tool that used all the time ......by musicians.....but they do not let it confuse them ......


    To my best knowledge this piece has all the hammer-ons and pull-offs in the right places, again they may not be where you expect them or even would like them.


    I'm not talking about the placement of your hammer ons or pulls....I'm talking about your lack of execution of them....there is a difference



    Since I'm not a professional musician I have the luxury to play what I want and how I want. I don't even consider myself a musician, I'm a guitar player and just don't worry about accepted musical practices. If I would I don't think I would compose much anymore.


    Gee that's too bad .......... How do you function if you do not even consider yourself a musician......you don't worry about accepted musical practices..... This view point I find very disturbing......

    All musicians have the luxury to play what they want and how they want.....it is not decided by being a professional or not.....so that is not a valid point.....

    How can you be "just a Guitar Player" and not a musician???? 

    If you play guitar then you are a musician.....no matter if you can only play one note or have had years of training.....

    Someone may not be in essence be a very good guitar player and therefore not be a very good musician......but they still are a musician nonetheless.......

    If your not a musician.....and you don't care about standard practices then how do you even consider (by your opening line) yourself a composer????

    That is kind of like hiring the guy down the block to find and fix a leak in your house just cause he has a Pipe wrench.....


    Just a guitar player.......hhmmm........


    Greetings,Rik


    2nd. I left you a thought.....my thought concerning your remark about my guitar and orchestra composition over on Ve's guitar and orchestra composition that I am sure you should read......because I just happened across it and it was not too pleased.......

    After reading your thoughts above I understand your limited  view point which you pointed out to V in his thread a lot better.

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    Re:"Mrs.Goodmood" DADGAD- guitar by Morenoise 2011/03/06 12:44:21 (permalink)
    Hi Clifford, thanks again for listening and caring. I think the problem is that you think I made a remark at your expense in Vechungs thread, this wasn't my intention. I merely commented on the fact that Vechung was going through hoops to make his guitar noise free and I don't think you can do that without sucking the life out of our beloved noisemaker, the guitar. Rereading the thread of your composition I thought I was paying you a compliment on your composition, twice, and even called it a winner if you would ad a real guitar since the sampled one doesn't sound like a guitar. A point that I have made to several forum members about the use of sampled guitars in their compositions.

    About my use of the term compose : to make or form by combining things, parts or elements.


    I stand by my hammer-ons and pull-offs. I don't consider myself a musician because that would be an insult to musicians. I don't consider myself a guitarist for the same reason. I play the guitar and the guitar plays with me so I call myself a guitar player, makes sense to me. I do have a sense of humor , hence my screen name. Nomen est omen .


    With kind regards, Morenoise a.k.a. Rik the guitarplayer.
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    Re:"Mrs.Goodmood" DADGAD- guitar by Morenoise 2011/03/06 12:47:54 (permalink)
    Excellent... I loved it...
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    Re:"Mrs.Goodmood" DADGAD- guitar by Morenoise 2011/03/06 12:53:45 (permalink)
    Hi Frank, thanks.

    Greetings , Rik
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    Re:"Mrs.Goodmood" DADGAD- guitar by Morenoise 2011/03/06 16:52:38 (permalink)
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    Hi Clifford, thanks again for listening and caring.

    I think the problem is that you think I made a remark at your expense in Vechungs thread, this wasn't my intention.

    Absolutely correct !

    I merely commented on the fact that Vechung was going through hoops to make his guitar noise free and I don't think you can do that without sucking the life out of our beloved noisemaker, the guitar. Rereading the thread of your composition I thought I was paying you a compliment on your composition, twice, and even called it a winner

    if you would ad a real guitar since the sampled one doesn't sound like a guitar.

    Again, you do not seem to comprehend my intention for that composition!

    I am assuming then you did not read and / or comprehend my explaination to to you in V's thread.

    Or even in my original opening post for that work........that is why a person puts opening remarks........so that the listener will have the proper perspective of what one is trying to accomplish....

    If you do not read them and you do not comprehend them then you should go no farther and certinaly not comment!

    You are stuck on only ONE thought process. You want to hear a real guitar........sorry.....ain't going to waste my time on that.....I have other things to do........

    that composition was never intended to be anything other than a writing pratice exercise.......I do not know how to make it any Clearer!!!!!!

    I have and never had any delusions of making it anything other than what it was....... A PRATICE EXERCISE..............................................................

    there for it does not require a real guitar.......!!!!!!!!

    A point that I have made to several forum members about the use of sampled guitars in their compositions.

    About my use of the term compose : to make or form by combining things, parts or elements.


    I stand by my hammer-ons and pull-offs.

    Stand, sit or jog it does not change the fact that they were not executed well.....



    I don't consider myself a musician because that would be an insult to musicians. I don't consider myself a guitarist for the same reason. I play the guitar and the guitar plays with me so I call myself a guitar player, makes sense to me. I do have a sense of humor , hence my screen name. Nomen est omen .


    Well then since you do not consider yourself a musician, I cannot take you seriously...........Just a guitar Player......So sad.......

    With kind regards, Morenoise a.k.a. Rik the guitarplayer.




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    Re:"Mrs.Goodmood" DADGAD- guitar by Morenoise 2011/03/06 17:03:20 (permalink)
    Truckermusic , I think you are being very rude so I wish you a nice life and good bye.
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    Re:"Mrs.Goodmood" DADGAD- guitar by Morenoise 2011/03/06 17:25:13 (permalink)
    Hi Phil, thanks for listening

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    Re:"Mrs.Goodmood" DADGAD- guitar by Morenoise 2011/03/06 17:27:37 (permalink)
    Perfect

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    Re:"Mrs.Goodmood" DADGAD- guitar by Morenoise 2011/03/06 17:34:31 (permalink)
    Hi Tony ,thanks for listening and way to much praise, but thank you very much.

    Greetings , Rik
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    Re:"Mrs.Goodmood" DADGAD- guitar by Morenoise 2011/03/06 18:07:45 (permalink)
    Man, I'm getting to where I hate soundclick more and more.  I am moving off of soundclick and will not be using them myself any more.  I can't stand their aggressive ad program.  they used to be "the place" for musicians to share their songs - now they're just spammers AFAIC.  when I clicked on your link there were two windows running sound at the same time - yours and an ad for RENEW.  I had to wait until it stopped then restart your music just to be able to hear it.

    ok - rant about soundclick over.  sorry about that.

    Rik - this is very very nice.  very nice tone and excellent recording. how was this one recorded?  I don't hear the same noises as was in the last one I listed from you.

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    Re:"Mrs.Goodmood" DADGAD- guitar by Morenoise 2011/03/06 18:24:48 (permalink)
    Hi Reece, couldn't agree more with you on soundclick, I'm using Soundcloud more and more, no pop-ups and you don't have to use mp3's. I upload in flac and it just sounds better to me. This was uploaded on Soundclick for a specific reason, sorry for the inconvenience .


    Thanks for listening. This one was recorded direct from the guitar via DI so no mic and therefore
    less noise. You do have to process the guitar to get it to sound nice again. Most of the time it's just to noisy where I live to use a mic so I'll take the direct route. Less noise but not so nice tone.


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    Re:"Mrs.Goodmood" DADGAD- guitar by Morenoise 2011/03/06 18:36:29 (permalink)
    cool - thanks for sharing your recording techniques, Rik.  and yes, I'm sure DI is always harder to work with by itself.  It's always a good compliment, IMO, if you can use DI and mic, but I understand sometimes there are limitations!

    and agan - sorry for the soundclick rant...

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    Re:"Mrs.Goodmood" DADGAD- guitar by Morenoise 2011/03/06 18:46:27 (permalink)
    No problem Reece, I've shown my Soundclick page to family members and there were some pretty inappropriate ads and pop-ups on there. Haven't had that kind of problem on Soundcloud yet but am busy with hosting my own site, nothing as fancy as yours. I only have 50 mb of space so I'm thinking of linking my site to Soundcloud.

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    Re:"Mrs.Goodmood" DADGAD- guitar by Morenoise 2011/03/08 11:07:42 (permalink)
    Rik - I listened to this twice yesterday. I like your style! DADGAD is a favorite of mine and I find it very difficult to go back to standard tuning anymore.

    A very 'pretty' sounding tune and 'feel' to it.


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