Music Creator 2 and sound card recommendation?

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2017/08/10 01:05:38 (permalink)

Music Creator 2 and sound card recommendation?

Hi all! I'm having trouble getting Music Creator 2 to work with my sound card. It worked perfectly with my old computer, but the sound card isn't showing up in Music Creator 2 on the new-to-me computer. It's just the sound card that came with the computer (Digital Audio (s/PDIF) High Definition Audio Device). I've been looking into getting a new, decent one and was wondering if you all would be able to recommend one that works with Music Creator 2, as I don't think I'll be able to get this one to work with it. :(
 
Yes, I know the program is older than dirt, but I don't want to have to learn a new program. lol The computer it will go in is a Dell Inspiron 660 with windows 10 Pro 64bit. Not sure what other specs you need, if any. I'm looking for a good sound card, but not one that will break the bank and it has to work with Music Creator 2. Any suggestions?
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    Cactus Music
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    Re: Music Creator 2 and sound card recommendation? 2017/08/10 15:45:52 (permalink)
    These days we call then Audio Interfaces. A soundcard was something that was inserted into a PCI buss and more for gaming than Audio. Not many companies make PCIe cards like the old Deltas anymore. 
     
    So Audio interfaces in the lower price rang use USB. Go to Sweetwater and look at the interfaces.
    https://www.sweetwater.com/shop/computer-audio/audio_interfaces/
     
     
    Here's a blurb I wrote giving you ideas on what to look for while shopping
    http://www.cactusmusic.ca/Recording.htm  look for the link to jump to the spot on the page. 
     
    As far as an interface that works with you software it's more about the interface needs drivers for your OS. And if your software is real old it will probably not work properly with a new OS. You should look at buying the new Home Studio for only $50. It's pretty easy to use and guaranteed to work with all new OS and interfaces.  
     
     

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    Re: Music Creator 2 and sound card recommendation? 2017/08/10 20:07:10 (permalink)
    tcasco,
     
    If you're really determined to stick with Music Creator 2 then you maybe better off continuing to troubleshoot the built-in computer sound device.  If you look under control panel what kind of audio device does the computer have?  It most likely is a RealTek.  If so does the device show up in Music Creator 2?  If not what audio choices does show up?
     
    Using an external device would either mean either getting a USB sound card like this, https://www.walmart.com/ip/Sabrent-USB-2-0-Virtual-External-2-1-Surround-Sound-Adapter-USB-SBCV/14978749?action=product_interest&action_type=title&beacon_version=1.0.2&bucket_id=irsbucketdefault&client_guid=53b805f1-f8ba-40f8-8bf8-95b36515abeb&config_id=106&customer_id_enc&findingMethod=p13n&guid=53b805f1-f8ba-40f8-8bf8-95b36515abeb&item_id=14978749&parent_anchor_item_id=14271748&parent_item_id=14271748&placement_id=irs-106-m3&reporter=recommendations&source=new_site&strategy=PWBAB&visitor_id=cH9FSBmLPeI0zM629_vqsE, or a proper audio interface.  The usb sound card likely uses the same audio chip as your computer.

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    Re: Music Creator 2 and sound card recommendation? 2017/08/11 17:45:19 (permalink)
    When I look up the sound device name on the computer, it comes up as: Digital Audio (s/PDIF) High Definition Audio Device.
     
    Unfortunately, no options show up in Music Creator 2 no matter what I try. :( I've never had this problem with a computer before. The odd thing is, the new computer has the same sound card as my old one. It just baffles me. 
     
    On the audio interface...I'm not sure how that would work, since I can't get it to recognize the sound card. It looks like with an audio interface, it would still use the sound card that comes with the computer? Sorry, I don't know much about audio interfaces.
     
     
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    Re: Music Creator 2 and sound card recommendation? 2017/08/11 17:48:07 (permalink)
    Do you know if Music Creator 2 would recognize a Sabrent sound card? If so, I might just get that. 
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    Re: Music Creator 2 and sound card recommendation? 2017/08/12 00:38:41 (permalink)
    Welcome to the forum.
    When you first opened MC 2, the Wave Profiler should have run automatically to set up the audio device. Do you remember it doing that?
    In MC under Options>Audio at the top, is there anything listed for Record Timing Master and Playback timing Master?

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    Re: Music Creator 2 and sound card recommendation? 2017/08/27 14:56:02 (permalink)
    The Sabrent USB audio interfaces are built with the same chips computer makers put on their motherboards.  With MC2 not recognizing the computer audio it likely will not recognize the Sabrent USB audio interface.
     
    Sabrent interfaces seem to be very inconsistent.  Here is a video review that describes the inconsistency: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1v1jtHz4C0
     
    You mentioned MC2 recognized the old computer audio interface but is not recognizing the new computer audio interface.  What is different between the old computer and new computer?  My guess is the two computers are running different operating systems; perhaps the old computer used XP while the new computer is using Vista or Win 7.  Is my guess correct?  If so the problem maybe you need to update the audio drivers for the new computer.
     
    You can go into control panel, select Hardware and Sound then look at your audio controls.  While into the control panel also visit System then Device Manager.  Then select Sound, video and game controllers to display your computer's audio chips which will likely be Intel or Realtek.  Right click on the audio chip name to open a sub-menu which allows you to update the chip driver.

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    Re: Music Creator 2 and sound card recommendation? 2017/09/01 13:34:57 (permalink)
    Yep... you have a really old version.  My recommendation is to update as someone above mentioned. For $50 it's certainly worth it and while yes, you have to kind of learn your way around again, it's not like you're starting from scratch. Besides that, there have been some really amazing advances in the software and the instrument sounds since MC2.

    Any factory soundcard generally is not a good card for running this sort of software. Invest in a good USB interface and run ASIO drivers and you will be amazed at the ease of use.

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    Re: Music Creator 2 and sound card recommendation? 2017/09/05 16:09:55 (permalink)
    Here is were you shop for a proper audio interface 
    https://www.sweetwater.com/c695--USB_Audio_Interfaces
     
     

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