Music Creator 6.0 Question

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Music Creator 6.0 Question

I'm just getting back into playing guitar and would love to use Music Creator 6.0 to help create/write music. I have a question before buying it, though. My big question is does MC 6.0 allow you to actually "write" music with the virtual instruments or are you forced to piece together songs from the loops that are supplied? My goal is to record my own vocals, guitar parts and maybe some keyboard parts but have the application play the exact notes and chords I've written. Thanks in advance, C  
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    Re:Music Creator 6.0 Question 2011/10/12 22:09:50 (permalink)
    I'm going to say yes, even though "write music with the virtual instruments" isn't right.
    You can enter notes (data) in MIDI tracks, using you mouse and either the Staff view or Piano Roll view. You hear the music you wrote with some sort of synthesizer, either hardware or software.
    If you have a MIDI keyboard or MIDI controller, you can record those MIDI (data) notes in real time just like recording audio; but you can easily edit mistakes, change the instrument sound, transpose to another key and more after the recording. Can't do that with audio.
    If you have an electronic drum set or drum machine with MIDI output, you can record those into MC and edit if necessary, change drum sets or single drums if you don't like the sound of the snare.
    It won't notate any audio tracks you record; you'll have to do that yourself if you want to print a score, for instance.

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    Re:Music Creator 6.0 Question 2011/10/13 06:36:44 (permalink)
    My goal is to record my own vocals, guitar parts and maybe some keyboard parts but have the application play the exact notes and chords I've written.

    I guess my question is:  what exactly do you mean by this?  if you record vocals, guitar parts and keyboard parts, what would be different from what exact notes and chords you've written? 

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    Re:Music Creator 6.0 Question 2011/10/13 08:26:56 (permalink)
    If you mean will MC6 actually create the other parts for you with the virtual instruments..... the answer to that is no.

    You can use the loops and samples to create the parts, and use midi controllers and your mouse to input the midi source for the VST's  to play, but it is not an artificial intelligent musical accompaniment. 

    For that, (yes they do exist) you will need quite a bit of money to buy programs like Jamstix (for drums) and Band in a Box. Those 2 programs DO have the ability to create the other parts of a song. But they are much more expensive then MC6.

    www.rayzoon.com   <<<< Jamstix

    www.pgmusic.com   <<<< BiaB

    Think of MC6 as a recording studio ready for you to walk in and record the music. 

    If you want to hear what BiaB can do, coupled with Music Creator ... click my website, click on My Music and start at the top of the song list. Remember that I play guitar and mandolin. The other parts are all BiaB.... with a few exceptions.

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    Re:Music Creator 6.0 Question 2011/10/13 15:05:53 (permalink)
    Here a few inexpensive and innovative alternatives to Jamstix and Biab, to use along with MC: http://www.1manband.nl/ All these programs are for Midi, and not audio. You can make your midi arrangement with something like this: http://www.1manband.nl/omb.htm then export as a Midi File to import into MC. Here is one that is a Cakewalk plugin, where you can enter auto-accompaniment in non-real time: http://www.1manband.nl/mfx.htm

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    Re:Music Creator 6.0 Question 2011/10/13 16:26:07 (permalink)
    yeah, there are a few other programs out there...I think microsoft even came up with one a few years back..... I don't recall it's name. 


    add: ain't google wonderful.... it's called Songsmith and here's a link to a free demo version. >>> http://research.microsoft...ongsmith/download.html
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    Re:Music Creator 6.0 Question 2011/10/14 07:10:28 (permalink)
    yep, and there's also Jammer.  similar to BIAB, but without Real Tracks; MIDI only.

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    Re:Music Creator 6.0 Question 2011/10/14 08:32:20 (permalink)
    If you "massage" the midi sufficiently with velocity and some of the other things (which I don't bother with) you can make midi sound surprisingly good and realistic enough. 

    One guy posted a song a while back that was a symphonic tune, composed with a mouse in staff or PRV, and using only TTS as the synth with it's GM midi sounds.... and it sounded amazing. 

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    Re:Music Creator 6.0 Question 2011/10/15 06:37:52 (permalink)
    Well...the OP specificly said he does NOT want anything like Band in a box, but to compose his own music, so he's good to go with MC.

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    Re:Music Creator 6.0 Question 2011/10/15 09:02:00 (permalink)
    Yeah he did say "the exact notes I've written".... my misunderstanding?  Lots of people come here thinking MC will "write music" for you..... 

    it's simply a recording studio. and a mighty fine one too. 
    So if that is what he meant.... absolutely! Yes. 

    MC6 is a fully functional recording studio. It will record exactly what you put into it. I was thinking, perhaps incorrectly, that you wanted a program to "write the music" for you. MC6 will not do that, but it does let You record audio with mics and direct inputs as well as MIDI from a midi controller/keyboard, and assign a synth to play it back. 




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    Re:Music Creator 6.0 Question 2011/10/15 10:30:39 (permalink)
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    I'm just getting back into playing guitar and would love to use Music Creator 6.0 to help create/write music. I have a question before buying it, though. My big question is does MC 6.0 allow you to actually "write" music with the virtual instruments or are you forced to piece together songs from the loops that are supplied? My goal is to record my own vocals, guitar parts and maybe some keyboard parts but have the application play the exact notes and chords I've written. Thanks in advance, C  


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    Well...the OP specificly said he does NOT want anything like Band in a box, but to compose his own music, so he's good to go with MC.


    I don't see where the OP said that, Kalle.

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    Re:Music Creator 6.0 Question 2011/10/15 10:51:20 (permalink)
    I get from the OP's question he wants something he can "write" music and have it play the exact notes and chords, not have to rely on painting in loops and such, like Acid, or Ableton live or mixcraft 5. All of which can record vocal, and guitar as well.

    MC6 is a good choice since it is based in simple notation writing of midi notes, and you can record audio to go with that, but also it will allow loop based recording, and midi clip work as well, so you can add whole chords. It is a great place to start, and can be added to with a ton of cheap, free, and expensive other toys.

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    Re:Music Creator 6.0 Question 2011/10/15 17:41:41 (permalink)
    Herb, what package of BIAB do you use?  I see the prices range from "Oh, that's not bad" to "Oh, my sweet Baby Jesus!"

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    Re:Music Creator 6.0 Question 2011/10/15 20:18:21 (permalink)
    Closer to the Oh my sweet baby Jesus version....

    I have the one on the hard drive and the only thing above me is the audiophile version.... I'm one update back now....  I'm waiting to see what new stuff they have in the next full version. 

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    Re:Music Creator 6.0 Question 2011/10/21 12:49:00 (permalink)
    Jack.... is a spammer? 

    But in case you are not.... change the signature... this is not a place to advertise a business.....

    The answer to the question is YES. 

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