Music Technology Major

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2011/04/18 19:38:05 (permalink)

Music Technology Major

I haven't been around here in quite some time, but I thought I should come around and tell some of the members here that they've helped shape my future a little bit.

I've decided I want to try pursuing a career working with music somehow. I'm not sure if this is where I belong, but I want to see if I'll like it. Even if I hate it as a job, at least I'll have learned how to better use the skills as a hobby. "Thank you" to the various members who helped get me started with my audio equipment in 2008, thanks to the program Sonar (And Reason 3, 4, 5), and all the critique that everyone has given me over time.

I'd like to be able to understand what you guys are talking about, though, lol... So, yeah.

Back in October, I was able to go to TN and visit Taylor Swift's producer (friend of a friend). He brought me all around the crazy high-tech studios, showed me his grammy awards, and told me how everything worked in the studios, etc. It was pretty cool. Apparently I just missed running into Randy Travis and Don Henley! Looked like a really neat work environment.

I only made this decision a few days ago, so it may change, but I think I'm set on it for a little while at least. I just need to figure out where I should go to school. I really don't feel like I'm up for the whole 4 year degree thing, but I like the sound of an "Only music" school a lot. Does anyone have any personal experience with that? Music Tech or something similar?

I'm excited, I guess. Haha.

Thanks, cakewalk forum.
post edited by Melee54 - 2011/04/18 19:56:01
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    Janet
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    Re:Music Technology Major 2011/04/18 19:47:56 (permalink)
    I don't have any ideas for you, although I've seen a few in magazines.  But, I wanted to say I was just thinking about you the other day and wondering if you're still singing and recording.  :)  So...glad to see you on here.  And that sounds like a great idea.  :) 
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    Melee54
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    Re:Music Technology Major 2011/04/18 19:55:28 (permalink)
    Thank you. I lurk the Songs forum every now and then but I haven't had much success in creating my own songs recently. I need to learn more chords. Haha.


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    Re:Music Technology Major 2011/04/18 20:16:17 (permalink)
    Jacob,

    From what you are saying, I gather you want to work in a recording studio. If I'm correct, here is my suggestion. Find a nearby studio, and offer to work as an intern/coffee boy/whatever. Offer yourself for free or real cheap. It's all about getting your foot in the door. Be willing to do anything, and keep your ears open, and observe everything closely. Ask good questions at the right time. The recording studio business has become brutally difficult from a financial standpoint. There are alot of reasons for this, but I wont go into to that now. If you go to school for a recording education, guess where you will start. As the intern/coffee boy/gofer. Why spend the money? The guys who run the studios arent going to let someone fresh out of school touch the good stuff anyways. They actually would prefer someone who hasnt learned bad habits and thinks they know everything. Get your foot in the door and good luck.

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    Melee54
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    Re:Music Technology Major 2011/04/19 16:18:10 (permalink)
    So it's not even worth going to a music school, then? Hmm. Thanks for the tips.

    But yes, I'd like to work in a studio. But if going to a music school and getting some certificate isn't going to help all that much, maybe I need to think of something else...
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    Re:Music Technology Major 2011/04/19 16:50:54 (permalink)
    I know this topic has been discussed at some length over at gearslutz.com

    You may want to search over there or post a new question.  Some heavy producers and engineers frequent that forum.

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    Re:Music Technology Major 2011/04/19 17:17:34 (permalink)
    Melee54

    I'm excited ...

    Thanks, cakewalk forum.
    We we we so excited for you too.

    Good luck!


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    Re:Music Technology Major 2011/04/19 17:56:21 (permalink)
    Bub


    Melee54

    I'm excited ...

    Thanks, cakewalk forum.
    We we we so excited for you too.

    Now our lives are like empty sea shells on the forgotten beach?
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    Re:Music Technology Major 2011/04/19 17:57:22 (permalink)
    Melee54


     I need to learn more chords. Haha.

    You only need three at a time for a rock song (or so I'm told).


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    Re:Music Technology Major 2011/04/19 18:09:22 (permalink)
    bapu


    Melee54


    I need to learn more chords. Haha.

    You only need three at a time for a rock song (or so I'm told).

    then why did you only learn the Aminor note?

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    Re:Music Technology Major 2011/04/19 18:13:50 (permalink)
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    bapu


    Melee54


    I need to learn more chords. Haha.

    You only need three at a time for a rock song (or so I'm told).

    then why did you only learn the Aminor note?

    Cuz I'm Da Bazz player and we only go thud thud thud?


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    Re:Music Technology Major 2011/04/19 19:03:59 (permalink)
    Melee54


    So it's not even worth going to a music school, then? Hmm. Thanks for the tips. 


    Go to music school if you want to; In my opinion, all knowledge is good.
    Plus, they have women there.

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    Re:Music Technology Major 2011/04/19 19:28:49 (permalink)
    Bub


    Melee54

    I'm excited ...

    Thanks, cakewalk forum.
    We we we so excited for you too.

    Good luck!


    We gonna have a ball today? Haha.

    lol, 57Gregy. Of course. Completely justifies the potential waste of money.

    I'll do some more research I guess.


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    Re:Music Technology Major 2011/04/19 20:01:51 (permalink)


    Music school would just be a waste of money.  Bapu can teach you a proper Am chord - that's all you need.

    (or is it?)

     
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    Re:Music Technology Major 2011/04/19 20:11:31 (permalink)
    Jacob,

    Don't let me discourage you from higher education. Music school and an education in recording are 2 completely different things. It all depends on what you want to do. A music education can open alot of doors, such as performing, arranging, producing, and it will certainly help in any music related career.

    However, if your goal is to get a job in a recording studio as an engineer, I suggest what I previously said. It's one of the few careers I can think of, where you don't need a certificate, diploma or degree to get your foot in the door and find out if its what you really want to do.

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    Re:Music Technology Major 2011/04/19 20:55:44 (permalink)
    Before you sign up to spend lots of money, go to Nashville or LA and talk with some of the recording industry insiders, the engineers and the producers. Ask them if a 4 year degree is worth the money and the time. If a visit is out of the question, do some research and get the names and email, write a letter, or arrange a phone call to talk with them about this topic.

    You might find that the degree is a door opener or you might find that it's not. Either way, get the info you need to make an informed decision. Do not ask the schools..... they want the money so you know what they will say before you ask the question.

    There is always a need for talented engineers and producers, but i tend to think it's learned as an apprentice looking over the shoulder of the Bob Katz's of the business. I tend to agree with what Randy said. A good engineer/producer is one who knows the gear but also knows how to listen....and I really don't think that can be taught in a classroom. It's something, like an artist, you either have or don't. But working with a pro, you can surely hone your existing skills.

    Best of luck with the journey. Maybe some day, you will be showing some nube kid your grammies.

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    Re:Music Technology Major 2011/04/19 21:46:11 (permalink)
    Here are some things to think about .....

    in terms of music ... you don't really need a degree to perform music - I always thought a degree in music performance was and is a joke... although I have frineds that have those degrees...

    recording engineer might be ok if you don't know how to learn it on your own - Randy gave great advice about being an intern for free or cheap - and then I would suggest buying your own equipment for your DAW and start small... but there are ways to get good at it with out an education - back in the day they didnt even have classes on "how to be a recording engineer techno whiz kid"

    The two types of music degrees that I think hold substance are Music Education or Music Buisness - 

    Music Education lets me Teach in any school district k-12 - I can teach and I am ceretified to teach -  band - choir - general music - and  orchestra - 

    This has opened doors for me in regards to getting into bands - some studio work - there was a time when private lessons fell on my lap out of no where - and people seem to "trust" me in my opinions and in projects I start because - "Paul has a masters degree in music education"

    Because I have made my living in music since -- FOREVER - I believe in the music education degree and also believe it's the real only music degree with value that you NEED to get a job  - with out it - no school will hire you and you wont get a teaching certificate from the state 

    perhaps maybe music Business is "OK" and can open up other doors -  in case "music" doesnt work out - so .. maybe that degree  - 

    you asked about good colleges - 

    Vandercook College Of music In Chicago........ is a MUSIC EDUCATION ONLY college - they do nothing else - when you graduate - you will have learned 17 instruments and you will be a band, choir, orchestra, or general music teacher - THATS IT - thats all you will study there - you will know instruments and conducting as well as rehearsal techniques  - http://www.vandercook.edu/

    I have both my Bachelor and masters degree from there - and it has opened many doors 


    Good luck Melee 








     

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    Re:Music Technology Major 2011/04/20 08:04:47 (permalink)
    I agree with 99% of what Mooch just said.

    I also firmly believe that a solid 4 years liberal arts program is fantastic.

    The more you know about everything the more opportunities you will discover in life.

    Learn art and music history AND some basic physics and chemistry. Learn about language and literature AND economics and nutritional science.

    Get a good well rounded education and your opportunities will be varied.

    A specialty education in the field of your choice is also fantastic... but you may miss out on even realizing what choices you had if you side step a basic liberal arts program.


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    Re:Music Technology Major 2011/04/23 20:48:40 (permalink)
    Mike's message above is the last thing I saw on the forum before it went down.

    So, I've been waiting for days to say I agree...I often tell young people that it seems no matter what you know or learn, you'll be able to use it sometime in your life.  So I guess I second the motion about a well-rounded education.  :) 
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    Re:Music Technology Major 2011/04/23 21:23:27 (permalink)
    I'll add agreement to what's been said above.  A long time ago (early 80s) when I was just getting into radio broadcasting, I attended Brown Institute (which was absorbed into another company some years back).  I clearly remember more than one of the instructors urging us to get some college in addition to what we were learning from them - and the reason was always, "just in case this doesn't work out."

    I am very glad I followed their advice.  I spent about 12 years in radio, but became disenchanted with the industry towards the end... it was the bachelors degree I'd earned years before that opened doors to what was to come next.

    Though it will make for very long days, it's possible to go to college whilst working in your industry - might be one route to consider.

    Good luck!  Sounds like there's much excitement awaiting you.




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