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Re: My Mix for the BOZ digital labs contest.
2015/08/04 20:09:14
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Very nice eq, great level on lead vox. Big sound. The drums, though, get covered a touch when it gets loud, imho. Great work!
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Re: My Mix for the BOZ digital labs contest.
2015/08/04 22:37:29
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Sounds great to me! Not a real fan of this style of music. Reminds me of a cross between a Dashboard Confessional song and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuEpoYIsk_A Real nice and spacey while remaining really 'up front' (assuming that means something, lol)
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Re: My Mix for the BOZ digital labs contest.
2015/08/04 23:33:52
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Great mix.
But yeah the song is dull dull dull.
Somebody needs to do a dirty Dutch trance techno version to wake it up. Maybe two minuses might equal a plus.
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Re: My Mix for the BOZ digital labs contest.
2015/08/05 08:26:27
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Glad to see another having ago sounds OK here 
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Re: My Mix for the BOZ digital labs contest.
2015/08/05 10:28:36
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Sounded okay to me that Andrew...
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sausy1981
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Re: My Mix for the BOZ digital labs contest.
2015/08/05 12:10:05
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Glad to see another having ago sounds OK here
Cheers Wookie, Just did it for the practice. The recording wasn't great in my opinion.
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Re: My Mix for the BOZ digital labs contest.
2015/08/05 12:11:14
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Sounded okay to me that Andrew...
Thanks man, A lot of decisions are down to taste so I'm glad there seems to be nothing that people really don't like.
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Re: My Mix for the BOZ digital labs contest.
2015/08/05 13:42:20
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Re: My Mix for the BOZ digital labs contest.
2015/08/05 14:16:59
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Andrew, I just listened to Synkotron's version, and I now have come to the conclusion that the raw materiel somewhat dictates the outcome. This style of music is very popular now, and that creates certain preconceptions, I suppose. I hear differences between the two versions that possibly stems from different monitors. As is typical of this "modern" paradigm, it has sparkle up the yin yang, but you did a fine job of tempering it so that I might enjoy this after a few listens. Frankly, I'm too chicken to try this so I admire you both and all else who have taken the plunge.
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Re: My Mix for the BOZ digital labs contest.
2015/08/05 15:10:33
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interesting mix,
i like your approach with the vox level, and the brightness..
but this mix sounds distorted to me.
especially when it gets to the last third of the song when it's just one constant volume.
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sausy1981
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Re: My Mix for the BOZ digital labs contest.
2015/08/05 16:58:28
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batsbrew
interesting mix,
i like your approach with the vox level, and the brightness..
but this mix sounds distorted to me.
especially when it gets to the last third of the song when it's just one constant volume.
Thanks Batsbrew, Can you describe the distortion your hearing, the peak rms for the song is -10db and my ceiling is -1db and I made sure there was no intersample peaking going on, is the distortion in one particular part of the frequency spectrum? Is it one particular element? I wanna go back to the mix and have a look and listen to what might be happening. Cheers for listening and the valuable feedback. Andrew
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sausy1981
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Re: My Mix for the BOZ digital labs contest.
2015/08/05 16:59:53
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Lynn
Andrew, I just listened to Synkotron's version, and I now have come to the conclusion that the raw materiel somewhat dictates the outcome. This style of music is very popular now, and that creates certain preconceptions, I suppose. I hear differences between the two versions that possibly stems from different monitors. As is typical of this "modern" paradigm, it has sparkle up the yin yang, but you did a fine job of tempering it so that I might enjoy this after a few listens. Frankly, I'm too chicken to try this so I admire you both and all else who have taken the plunge.
Thanks Lynn, I appreciate you listening and commenting, Cheers, Andrew
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sausy1981
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Re: My Mix for the BOZ digital labs contest.
2015/08/05 17:00:13
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Mooch4056
NICE! Very nice mix!
Cheers man.
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Re: My Mix for the BOZ digital labs contest.
2015/08/05 17:48:44
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sausy1981
batsbrew
interesting mix,
i like your approach with the vox level, and the brightness..
but this mix sounds distorted to me.
especially when it gets to the last third of the song when it's just one constant volume.
Thanks Batsbrew, Can you describe the distortion your hearing, the peak rms for the song is -10db and my ceiling is -1db and I made sure there was no intersample peaking going on, is the distortion in one particular part of the frequency spectrum? Is it one particular element? I wanna go back to the mix and have a look and listen to what might be happening.
Cheers for listening and the valuable feedback.
Andrew
hey andrew.... i don't think those levels are out of hand, i like a peak rms in more of the -12 to -14 range, you still end up with a dynamic range of about 10 or 11, and -1db peak is fairly safe.... it's more a SATURATION thing i'm hearing.. i haven't seen any of the stems, but it seems that adding any brick wall limiting at all, on top of what the stems already have processes, is bringing out more 'crunch' and distortion........ this gets into a very touchy-feely area, that is stuck somewhere between the volume wars, and having a good modern mix that sounds CLEAN. i would bet that every mixer that used these stems, kind of came across the same issues. and just depending on your mix approach (i like your approach) you may or may not bring out the worst of the stem issues, simply by applying any further dynamics processing than what is already on the stems.
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Re: My Mix for the BOZ digital labs contest.
2015/08/05 18:30:47
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A real good mix, there are elements such as the vocals, and softening the transitions of that intro acoustic, that I would have scored you highly on if I were a voter.
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Doktor Avalanche
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Re: My Mix for the BOZ digital labs contest.
2015/08/05 20:49:40
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Apparently the overheads are out of phase on the stems (not joking)
Everybodies gonna be remixing it again now :)
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Re: My Mix for the BOZ digital labs contest.
2015/08/06 14:44:12
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Sounds good from here. It is bright, but most of the tracks themselves are bright. I've started working with it as well and given the source material I think you're doing fine.
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Re: My Mix for the BOZ digital labs contest.
2015/08/07 04:14:21
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Doktor Avalanche
Everybodies gonna be remixing it again now :)
Not me... I'm done...
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sausy1981
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Re: My Mix for the BOZ digital labs contest.
2015/08/07 10:38:12
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sausy1981
batsbrew
interesting mix,
i like your approach with the vox level, and the brightness..
but this mix sounds distorted to me.
especially when it gets to the last third of the song when it's just one constant volume.
Thanks Batsbrew, Can you describe the distortion your hearing, the peak rms for the song is -10db and my ceiling is -1db and I made sure there was no intersample peaking going on, is the distortion in one particular part of the frequency spectrum? Is it one particular element? I wanna go back to the mix and have a look and listen to what might be happening.
Cheers for listening and the valuable feedback.
Andrew
hey andrew....
i don't think those levels are out of hand,
i like a peak rms in more of the -12 to -14 range,
you still end up with a dynamic range of about 10 or 11,
and -1db peak is fairly safe....
it's more a SATURATION thing i'm hearing..
i haven't seen any of the stems,
but it seems that adding any brick wall limiting at all, on top of what the stems already have processes,
is bringing out more 'crunch' and distortion........
this gets into a very touchy-feely area,
that is stuck somewhere between the volume wars, and having a good modern mix that sounds CLEAN.
i would bet that every mixer that used these stems,
kind of came across the same issues.
and just depending on your mix approach (i like your approach) you may or may not bring out the worst of the stem issues, simply by applying any further dynamics processing than what is already on the stems.
Thanks man, I havent got back to the meix yet but I was trying to think of eq's I did on the tracks and I remember that I did boost the highs quite a lot on the string tracks, I presumed they were sampled strings and I find that if you give a high boost to sampled strings and take away a little in the high mids then more often than most they will sound better in a mix with guitars and vocals, not a rule but seems to work a lot, Anyway I have a feeling that I may have overdone the high shelf and the distortion could be coming from the string tracks, especially as their all playing together near the end. Cheers for the great feedback mate, something to listen out for in the future. Andrew
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sausy1981
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Re: My Mix for the BOZ digital labs contest.
2015/08/07 10:38:35
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Sounds good from here. It is bright, but most of the tracks themselves are bright. I've started working with it as well and given the source material I think you're doing fine.
Thanks Steve.
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sausy1981
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Re: My Mix for the BOZ digital labs contest.
2015/08/07 10:40:11
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Doktor Avalanche
Apparently the overheads are out of phase on the stems (not joking)
Everybodies gonna be remixing it again now :)
I caught the phase issue on the overheads and I replaced the snare so didn't have to worry about it there. anyway I couldn't be arsed doing any more to this. 
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Re: My Mix for the BOZ digital labs contest.
2015/08/14 12:02:49
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Re: My Mix for the BOZ digital labs contest.
2015/08/14 12:08:52
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BTW, these other tracks on your soundcloud channel are great! what was your role in those productions???
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sausy1981
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Re: My Mix for the BOZ digital labs contest.
2015/08/15 14:29:03
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BTW, these other tracks on your soundcloud channel are great! what was your role in those productions???
Thanks man, All the tracks on my soundcloud are tracks that I have mixed, I'm a member over at Dueling Mixes and Rate the Mix. I had no input other than mixing them. The track called ' When The Time Comes' is one of my own and I did everything on that track, wrote it, played all the instruments, did all the vocals and mixed it.
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