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My Quantize shortcut key "Q" doesn't work. Not sure why?

My SonarX1 installation is a fresh installation on a brand new machine with all the default SonarX1 settings.  When I go to Preferences-Customization-KeyBindings it says "Q" should be Quantize.  But when I press "Q", nothing happens.  Am I doing something wrong?  "P" works fine and brings up the Preferences, but "Q" doesn't.  Any help would be appreciated.  Thank you
 
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    Re:My Quantize shortcut key "Q" doesn't work. Not sure why? 2010/12/31 16:00:48 (permalink)
    This is yet another work flow improvement.

    It is quicker to simply play in time.

    But if you must, what you do is close X1.

    Open v8.5 and use Quantize or Audio Snap in that... then when you are done you can close the project and go back to X1.

    This is actually the only way currently to quantize audio with X1.

    It's kinda like a super work around.

    Don't let that v8.5 gui scare ya... it actually works.

    I hope you didn't have bunch of pro channel stuff already set up.

    Good Luck.

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    Re:My Quantize shortcut key "Q" doesn't work. Not sure why? 2010/12/31 16:01:16 (permalink)
    Have you selected something (like a clip) to quantize?
     
    I ask because I just tested it on a MIDI drum clip.
     
    "Q" brought up the Quantize dialog.  After reviewing the settings, I pressed the "OK" button and it worked.
    post edited by Positively Charged - 2010/12/31 16:04:03
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    Re:My Quantize shortcut key "Q" doesn't work. Not sure why? 2010/12/31 16:10:56 (permalink)
    Thanks Mike - that's funny! - I'm way too far into X1 - ProChanel all over the place.  On my new (1 week old) machine I don't even have 8.5.3 installed.

    I should have mentioned I'm trying to quantize midi.  It works fine but I have to go up the the process menu every time.  I'm just trying to save a little wrist movement my using my left hand for a shortcut.
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    Re:My Quantize shortcut key "Q" doesn't work. Not sure why? 2010/12/31 16:13:09 (permalink)
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    Have you selected something (like a clip) to quantize?
     
    I ask because I just tested it on a MIDI drum clip.
     
    "Q" brought up the Quantize dialog.  After reviewing the settings, I pressed the "OK" button and it worked.


    Positively - OK - It works on a MIDI clip just like you said.  What I was doing was in the PRV - selecting a group of notes - It doesn't work here.  Try selecting notes in the PRV and hit Q.  This must be a bug.
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    Re:My Quantize shortcut key "Q" doesn't work. Not sure why? 2010/12/31 16:15:56 (permalink)
    It seems that the letter shortcuts don't work in PRV... only in TV...

    So in PRV you have to use the old alt-P followed by Q to open the process menu, then select quantize...

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    Re:My Quantize shortcut key "Q" doesn't work. Not sure why? 2010/12/31 16:18:52 (permalink)
    Testing it in PRV now guys...
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    Re:My Quantize shortcut key "Q" doesn't work. Not sure why? 2010/12/31 16:22:51 (permalink)
    Sorry, it worked here in PRV...PRV in the multidock that is.

    I lassoed a section of notes, then hit Q and the quantize dialog appeared.  "OK" (which is the default if you press "enter") carries out the quantization.
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    Re:My Quantize shortcut key "Q" doesn't work. Not sure why? 2010/12/31 16:26:59 (permalink)
    Positively - wow - Mine doesn't work and neither does Keni but yours does.  Let me trying closing and re-opening, or a different project.  Did you test in Sonar32 or Sonar64?  I'm in 64.
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    Re:My Quantize shortcut key "Q" doesn't work. Not sure why? 2010/12/31 16:28:05 (permalink)
    32 bit here under Win 7 64 bit.
     
    I looked in Key Bindings, and there is no "Q" in PRV.  So that's weird that it would work...unless it's internally defined.
    post edited by Positively Charged - 2010/12/31 16:29:29
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    Re:My Quantize shortcut key "Q" doesn't work. Not sure why? 2010/12/31 16:32:20 (permalink)
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    It seems that the letter shortcuts don't work in PRV... only in TV...

    So in PRV you have to use the old alt-P followed by Q to open the process menu, then select quantize...

    I've brought this up a few times.  "Q" simply does NOT work in the PRV.  A glaring omission indeed.
     
     

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    Re:My Quantize shortcut key "Q" doesn't work. Not sure why? 2010/12/31 16:32:46 (permalink)
    Okay, in key bindings, I scrolled down to "Q" and single-clicked on it.  The identifier says "Global key assignment:  Quantize"

    This is just a wild guess...but my environment had no prior key bindings under 8.5, at least I don't think I had any. 

    When installing X1, are any old setting migrated in from version 8?  I'm thinking maybe mine is "factory fresh" for X1 while yours has some stuff migrated in from 8.5?  Just a wild guess.
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    Re:My Quantize shortcut key "Q" doesn't work. Not sure why? 2010/12/31 16:33:20 (permalink)
    But mine does work, Billy.  Surely there is some explanation?
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    Re:My Quantize shortcut key "Q" doesn't work. Not sure why? 2010/12/31 16:35:13 (permalink)
    I just tried 32 and still doesn't work.  I checked Key Bindings under PRV and there is no option to bind Q to Process - Quantize.  This is weird.
     
    Mine is also a fresh installation on a brand new DAW.  No prior versions of Sonar installed.  However, I did an "Windows Easy Transfer" from my old system so some files came accross.  Still, none of my old Key Bindings from Sonar 8.5 came over.  X1 seems to be totally new with all the factory defaults.
    post edited by guitartrek - 2010/12/31 16:38:25
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    Re:My Quantize shortcut key "Q" doesn't work. Not sure why? 2010/12/31 16:40:17 (permalink)
    I went into key bindings and in global options I found Process|Quantize. I bound Q  to That.

    It now works in both PRV and TV.

    Don't be afraid to customize key bindings!

    They should have had it like this already, but still...

    You can always save export import key bindings and also return to default key bindings.

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    Re:My Quantize shortcut key "Q" doesn't work. Not sure why? 2010/12/31 16:41:21 (permalink)
    Oops - Sonar just went "white" on me for no apparent reason.  Lost audio for a couple seconds and then turned white.  I have to kill it. 
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    Re:My Quantize shortcut key "Q" doesn't work. Not sure why? 2010/12/31 16:41:32 (permalink)
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    But mine does work, Billy.  Surely there is some explanation?
    Interesting.   But previously "Q" was a default for "Mute clip".  I never changed that.  It worked.
    Now "Q" is changed to Quantize.
     
    No matter what I've tried - when I select a clip in the clips pane, double click it to bring it into the PRV, select some notes and hit "Q -- NOTHING happens.
     
    I've checked the keybindings.  Even re-entered it as it wants to be.  Nada.
     
    So I find it interesting you can actually hit Q with notes selected in the PRV and it works?
     
    Are you really sure of this?
     
     
    BTW, it definitely DOES work in the track/clip pane.  That is, if I select a clip there and hit Q, it works.  Just NOT in the PRV at all (for me and others).
     
     

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    Re:My Quantize shortcut key "Q" doesn't work. Not sure why? 2010/12/31 16:42:32 (permalink)
    Lance, that's what I said in my prior post.  Mine was ALREADY bound to Quantize in global options.

    I know I did not do it; it was already like that.

    So I think there's got to be SOME explanation for why some of us have different default key bindings?
     
     
    EDIT - Weird, I scrolled down in Key Bindings, and "Process/Quantize" is blank.  But highlighting the letter Q in the left pane shows what I said earlier, "Global Quantize".  Something is definitely hinky.
     
    But ... it does work on my system.
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    Re:My Quantize shortcut key "Q" doesn't work. Not sure why? 2010/12/31 16:43:31 (permalink)
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    Lance, that's what I said in my prior post.  Mine was ALREADY bound to Quantize in global options.

    I know I did not do it; it was already like that.

    So I think there's got to be SOME explanation for why some of us have different default key bindings?

    See my post above.  "Q" is not (new with X1) the default for Quantize.  In prior versions it defaulted to Mute Clip.
     
    SO you didn't have to change it -- X1 did it for you.
     
     

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    Re:My Quantize shortcut key "Q" doesn't work. Not sure why? 2010/12/31 16:45:30 (permalink)
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    I went into key bindings and in global options I found Process|Quantize. I bound Q  to That.

    It now works in both PRV and TV.

    Don't be afraid to customize key bindings!

    They should have had it like this already, but still...

    You can always save export import key bindings and also return to default key bindings.

    Yes, Process Quantize is a dialogue - function.  And if you reassign the keybind it will work in PRV as well.
    BUT - that's not the point.  X1 COMES with "Q" as the DEFAULT for Quantize.   And it does not work (for many) in the PRV.
     
    So of course, we can reassign.  But it's a bug.  It should be assigned to Quality control ;)
     
     

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    Re:My Quantize shortcut key "Q" doesn't work. Not sure why? 2010/12/31 16:47:16 (permalink)
    Okay.  It is messed up, I'll admit that, and I still don't know why our systems would be different in this regard. 

    But at least it works if you assign it.
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    Re:My Quantize shortcut key "Q" doesn't work. Not sure why? 2010/12/31 16:49:02 (permalink)
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    Okay.  It is messed up, I'll admit that, and I still don't know why our systems would be different in this regard. 

    But at least it works if you assign it.

    Heh, well I thinkk the short answer is -- there's a bug ;)
     

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    Re:My Quantize shortcut key "Q" doesn't work. Not sure why? 2010/12/31 16:49:25 (permalink)
    Oh crap - Now my project is having a problem playing - it's stuck.  I think I just corrupted it.  Could be Trilian, could be Sonar.  Crap.
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    Re:My Quantize shortcut key "Q" doesn't work. Not sure why? 2010/12/31 16:49:56 (permalink)
    I cleared all old key bindings. Q brings up Quantize except in the PRV where it does nothing. It works fine in the in-line PRV though. As  Lance suggested, I then bound Q globally to Process/Quantize. Q now works in PRV as well as everywhere else. There's clearly a programming oversight here. Has someone logged this as a bug? We can discuss it all we want here, but unless it's logged as a bug it might not get fixed. Presumably, the more people that log a particular bug, the higher priority it will get.

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    Re:My Quantize shortcut key "Q" doesn't work. Not sure why? 2010/12/31 16:51:03 (permalink)
    Billy, that's what I said.  I just took some literary license.  (?)

    Would you like to report it on the bug contact form?  It isn't reproducible on my system, so it would make more sense if you (or somebody else having the problem) did.

    There you go, you have homework now.  HAH!
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    Re:My Quantize shortcut key "Q" doesn't work. Not sure why? 2010/12/31 16:54:32 (permalink)
    Ah yes, now I see you mentioned it too. Sorry. Off to do my homework...

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    Re:My Quantize shortcut key "Q" doesn't work. Not sure why? 2010/12/31 16:58:17 (permalink)
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    Oh crap - Now my project is having a problem playing - it's stuck.  I think I just corrupted it.  Could be Trilian, could be Sonar.  Crap.

    I don't know if you've seen what I've said elsewhere about a similar thing, but ...
     
    I started a TOTALLY new/fresh project.  I was in the creative mood.   Long story short...  I had to stop working in X1 and bring the project back to 8.5.3 (which took some adjustments as well -- quite a mood killer actually).
     
    I just kept hitting bugs.  And then at one point no matter what I tried, X1 would crash every time I 'saved' the project (which I do often).
     
    NONE of those issues happened with the same project in 8.5.3.  So I just kept going with it.
     
    Strange, but true.    And what should I have done?  There was NO choice really.   So I just think there are some non-visible bugs (memory leaks perhaps, or other similar issues) that MAY creep up when least expected.
     
    This is why we need a serious major bug fix patch asap, in my humble opinion.  X1A was not that.
     
     

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    Re:My Quantize shortcut key "Q" doesn't work. Not sure why? 2010/12/31 16:59:34 (permalink)
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    I cleared all old key bindings. Q brings up Quantize except in the PRV where it does nothing. It works fine in the in-line PRV though. As  Lance suggested, I then bound Q globally to Process/Quantize. Q now works in PRV as well as everywhere else. There's clearly a programming oversight here. Has someone logged this as a bug? We can discuss it all we want here, but unless it's logged as a bug it might not get fixed. Presumably, the more people that log a particular bug, the higher priority it will get.

    Cheers, Peter.

    I think it's valuable to log these things, but let's not forget someone (or some few) get paid for quality control.
    Quantize slips through??   That's like sending out a car without breaks, no?
     
     

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    Re:My Quantize shortcut key "Q" doesn't work. Not sure why? 2010/12/31 17:02:45 (permalink)
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    Billy, that's what I said.  I just took some literary license.  (?)

    Would you like to report it on the bug contact form?  It isn't reproducible on my system, so it would make more sense if you (or somebody else having the problem) did.

    There you go, you have homework now.  HAH!

    I suspect they knew or know about this. It's too obvious and glaring, and enough users apparently have the issue.
     
    But, while I don't mind entering bug reports, I also feel just a teeny weeny itsy bitsy upset that this has turned into a public beta test.  I want to make music.   Reporting bugs that are not so obvious is one thing.  It makes sense to help find those esoteric ones, and probably does require a large user base to find those.
    But basic functionality shouldn't be the users responsbility in general.  I bought a program to use.  To work with.  I don't mind helping them out, and do and will; but it is a bit over the top unless they explicitly release a true public beta.
     
    But ok, I'll report it - and I bet it's been reported already anyway ;)
     
     

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    Re:My Quantize shortcut key "Q" doesn't work. Not sure why? 2010/12/31 17:06:50 (permalink)
    Billy, if you are not willing to use the customary bug reporting pathway, that's fine; it is your choice. 

    You are not helping as much as you could be.  And there is a point at which complaining without follow-through becomes "piling on".

    I'm not judging.  I'm just asking you to reconsider.
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