rockinrobby 
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My first Sonar recording...
I'm about to redo it, with new found knowledge? Tools? etc? This one has never been on my RN site? It was lost on my old Soundclick site (soundclick SUCKS AZZ!) So here's the original version from several years back? I don't believe in love... There are many problems with the mix? And some with the production? So I present it mainly for your enjoyment... I'm about to redo it with a new appreciation for the software? And production/mixing/etc... Consider this the prequill? Please listen? As the new version will be a comparison based on this initial rough understanding of how this **** works? Thanks. Robby. I don't believe in love - Original Version Posted at the top. www.reverbnation.com/rockinrobby
He said love It'll make ya do anything for somebody as he slowly slipped off the ring I need love But I don't want to hurt anymore too many people Too quick to walk out the door Ohhh I don't believe in love no more It's never there when I need... Love finds you fallin for the floor It cuts and laughs as you bleed... It's all that I'll never need, yeah. Love Is someone to have and to hold I believe that love is there for two to grow old Oh but I, I can't stay with you anymore she said I'm leavin... And she turned and walked out the door Ohhhh I don't believe in love no more It's never there when I need... Love finds you fallin for the floor It cuts and laughs as you bleed... It's all that I'll never need, yeah. (break) I don't believe in love no more It's never there when I need... Love finds you fallin for the floor It cuts and laughs as you bleed... It's all that I'll never need, yeah.
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twisted6s
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Re:My first Sonar recording...
2011/03/07 06:56:44
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You sang the hell out of this!!
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rockinrobby
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Re:My first Sonar recording...
2011/03/07 12:53:57
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Yeah I wrote and performed this shortly after the ex left and took my infant son away from me... So there was some emotion coming through in the performance. It's going to be a challenge to reproduce it. Thanks Tony!
To me this has an REO Speedwagon vibe for some reason.
Listening again this AM, I may just leave it alone :-) I can't remix it because I lost the original project in a crash :-(
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Re:My first Sonar recording...
2011/03/07 16:07:54
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Apart from the drums, I would leave the rest alone Robby, I like it as it is. It has a real raw quality too it. Love the vocals and harmony as usual. But the guitars are fantastic.
Like this song a hell of a lot.
Mark.
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Re:My first Sonar recording...
2011/03/07 17:55:31
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Well, I can't make any mix comments because I'm listening on my laptop (back is hurting no studio today)
But song wise I was really digging it. Very strong melody and vocals.
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Re:My first Sonar recording...
2011/03/07 18:00:56
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This has to be the best vocal I've heard from you, Robby! Don't mess with this one too much, it is almost perfect as it is. I agree with Mstodge's post.
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Re:My first Sonar recording...
2011/03/07 19:19:23
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Talent sung with feeling + + + 1
I wouldn't change a thing
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Re:My first Sonar recording...
2011/03/07 22:12:51
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I remember this one. Not too shabby for a beginner. :-)
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Re:My first Sonar recording...
2011/03/08 00:19:18
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He he he ... I'm not even game to post any of my early guff anywhere.
I'm looking forward to hearing what you do with a pretty good song.
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rockinrobby
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Re:My first Sonar recording...
2011/03/08 19:14:00
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mstodge
Apart from the drums, I would leave the rest alone Robby, I like it as it is. It has a real raw quality too it. Love the vocals and harmony as usual. But the guitars are fantastic.
Like this song a hell of a lot.
Mark.
" It has a real raw quality too it." Like my backside after that first long night in jail... :-( Thanks Mark! I'm flipping and flopping on the whole "should I stay or should I go?" I can't just do the drums because I don't have the original project :-(
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Re:My first Sonar recording...
2011/03/09 10:26:49
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The mix is really good. It has this "vintage" sound and if you like that then leave it alone. But if you want it more modern then you could re-mix it. I think it can go either way. The vocal do sound a bit muted. It is a very good song BTW.
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Re:My first Sonar recording...
2011/03/09 10:37:59
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I listened to this last night and it is a really cool song. Very well written and arranged. I can't decide which is better, this song or your forum avatar.
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Re:My first Sonar recording...
2011/03/09 10:40:21
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i just posted my first song as well so im glad to see we are starting out here together..love the song..its got a peter gabreil feel to it..i also checked out a few others..reall good stuff man.
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Re:My first Sonar recording...
2011/03/09 10:42:53
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Needs more vocal presence to show off them fine pipes.
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Re:My first Sonar recording...
2011/03/09 11:06:13
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thanks james...how do i do this??..is there a good plug in that would help?..thank you.
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Re:My first Sonar recording...
2011/03/09 12:21:16
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Chuck:
I was actually replying to Robby, but since ya asked, I took a listen to your tune. The guitar sound is huge, but it swamps everything else. The vocals scrape against it from time to time, but they actually sound pretty well balanced, for the genre. I would look into notching out a -2db cut with a .8 Q around 800 hz from the guitar when you are singing, and returning it flat when there is no vocals.
I also might add some compression to it. And you have to re-do the drums with a fatter kit. They are just so puny against the guitars.
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Re:My first Sonar recording...
2011/03/09 13:26:59
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Lot's of emotion in those vox Robby! I liked this very much.
Has a nice, southern rock vibe to this, .38 Special to my ears.
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Re:My first Sonar recording...
2011/03/09 19:28:52
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Love the tune for sure, awesome vocals and guitar playing and tone.
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Re:My first Sonar recording...
2011/03/09 20:54:19
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Dittos to all positive comments above. Trying to recall who this reminds me of... early Hall & Oats maybe? Great sound, instruments and vocals. Keep up good work!
RMc
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Re:My first Sonar recording...
2011/03/10 12:05:56
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I like the tune, Robby, and your voice does sound great on this EXCEPT as I've said a bunch of times, you certainly don't need that much processing. I know you can't do anything with the old project. This could be one of my favorite songs. I would re-record it totally and let "the Missing Person engineer (FT) give you some help with the vocal mix. You know I've always been a huge fan of your vocals. All of the vocal treatment on your voice is like covering up a nice lawn with rocks. Please take that with the deepest respect.
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Re:My first Sonar recording...
2011/03/10 15:20:48
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jamesyoyo
Chuck:
I was actually replying to Robby, but since ya asked, I took a listen to your tune. The guitar sound is huge, but it swamps everything else. The vocals scrape against it from time to time, but they actually sound pretty well balanced, for the genre. I would look into notching out a -2db cut with a .8 Q around 800 hz from the guitar when you are singing, and returning it flat when there is no vocals.
I also might add some compression to it. And you have to re-do the drums with a fatter kit. They are just so puny against the guitars.
my apologys to the poster..i commented in the wrong thread...i thought it was mine.sorry robby..i did leave a comment on this tune...i loved it.
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Re:My first Sonar recording...
2011/03/14 19:05:25
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Thanks everybody, I really appreciate it :-)
I talk a big game about going back and redoing some of these? But truth be known, there's a lot like excrement? Once it's out? I'm done with it... Working on my 1st "instrumental" currently :-)
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Re:My first Sonar recording...
2011/03/14 19:19:44
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Robby, this is another great ballad with an equally great vocal performance (no surprise there), It took me a while to get to it, but it was worth tracking it down. I hope you do re-do because the tune is definitely worth it, and, if you do, I'll be looking forward to hearing it.
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Re:My first Sonar recording...
2011/03/15 11:02:01
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Given the growth your production chops I'd redo it.
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Re:My first Sonar recording...
2011/03/15 11:16:58
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Ya it's a hard call on to re do it or not, , It's excellent in a vintage kinda way just as is, I have a lot of material that falls into the same category. It was recorded on 4trk cassette, Production could be a lot better , but you never seem to get the performance energy back. You sound a bit like Rick Roberts of Burrito brothers fame. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOxZPSaoGvw
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Re:My first Sonar recording...
2011/03/15 18:24:12
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Well up to your superb high standards.
I have to echo the others on your excellent vocal delivery: There's a lot of emotion coming through your voice.
The mix sounds great on my speakers.
Must be honest and say this is one of my least favourite genre's of music, but i can still admire an excellently crafted piece of work, which this most certainly is.
Good one Robbie.
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Re:My first Sonar recording...
2011/03/15 19:51:43
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No doubt, you've always been blessed with a great voice.
Daryl
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Re:My first Sonar recording...
2011/03/16 23:39:10
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Thanks guys :-) Maybe I'll start redoing a few :-) If I do, this one will probably be at or near the top. Working on my instrumental now, a few more weeks on it I think... When I'm done? You'll say I put the mental in instrumental! (As if most people don't already)
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Re:My first Sonar recording...
2011/03/18 17:10:36
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I really like the song "In Time.."
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Re:My first Sonar recording...
2011/03/18 17:40:10
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Yeah, that's a pretty love song :-) I have no idea why I wrote it! LOL! Thanks Shawn 
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