ba_midi
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My first X1B crash ;) *SOLVED*
I switched from screenset 2 to screenset 1. Typed "I" for the inspector. Crashola. Fun.
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Re:My first X1B crash ;)
2011/03/21 16:31:02
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im sorry billy..i had high hopes for you on this one..id hate to see you abondon cake..you mean alot to this forum and to me as well..you been there for me when i needed you..if theres anything i can do let me know..maybe i can try to replicate some of your issues and report back to you..i havent downloaded x1b yet.i figure the traffic is excess so im waiting till a bit later tonight ... and this comming from a red sox fan reaching out to a nyc fella..lol)
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Re:My first X1B crash ;)
2011/03/21 16:35:12
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List your system specs.
This is not an SONAR issue.
-CJ
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Re:My first X1B crash ;)
2011/03/21 16:35:39
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My condolences.
I was greeted with a message that Sonar no longer found my MCU.
Fortunately, one reboot and all was normal.
So far.................................
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Re:My first X1B crash ;)
2011/03/21 16:37:53
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chuckebaby
im sorry billy..i had high hopes for you on this one..id hate to see you abondon cake..you mean alot to this forum and to me as well..you been there for me when i needed you..if theres anything i can do let me know..maybe i can try to replicate some of your issues and report back to you..i havent downloaded x1b yet.i figure the traffic is excess so im waiting till a bit later tonight ...
and this comming from a red sox fan reaching out to a nyc fella..lol)
Thanks Charlie, but I'm not abandoning Cake yet. I will first try a complete uninstall and reinstall - as much as I hate to. I just did 2 weeks of INTENSE work in 8.5.3 with HUGE plugins and not ONE single crash. So I know it's got to have something to do with the installation. I'll report back.
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Re:My first X1B crash ;)
2011/03/21 16:39:59
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panup
List your system specs.
This is not an SONAR issue.
-CJ
With all due respect, Panup -- how are you SO sure it's not a Sonar issue? And, my system is fine. I'll work this out on my own. My specs are good - and I can use every other major DAW I have (a few!) without crashing. If I feel I need someone to review my system specs, I'll let you know. First, as I said above, I'll try a full uninstall and reinstall. I wasn't really asking for help yet. I was simply reporting that I've had a crash already. So thanks anyway, and I mean no offense by this.
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Re:My first X1B crash ;)
2011/03/21 16:41:06
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BlixYZ
My condolences.
I was greeted with a message that Sonar no longer found my MCU.
Fortunately, one reboot and all was normal.
So far.................................
Well, honestly I suspected this would not be a piece of cake, but I'll start debugging and all that. To be continued ... ;)
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Re:My first X1B crash ;)
2011/03/21 16:44:44
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Billy : Quick question - why don't you list your system specs ?
First question to those who don't put it in their sigs is "System Specs" ;-)
Cheers,
Jerry
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Re:My first X1B crash ;)
2011/03/21 16:48:52
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ba_midi
panup
List your system specs.
This is not an SONAR issue.
-CJ
With all due respect, Panup -- how are you SO sure it's not a Sonar issue?
And, my system is fine. I'll work this out on my own.
My specs are good - and I can use every other major DAW I have (a few!) without crashing. If I feel I need someone to review my system specs, I'll let you know.
First, as I said above, I'll try a full uninstall and reinstall.
I wasn't really asking for help yet. I was simply reporting that I've had a crash already.
So thanks anyway, and I mean no offense by this.
Sorry I did not add smiley.  CJ always asked for system specs from everybody even if it was 100% obvious there was a SONAR issue...
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Re:My first X1B crash ;)
2011/03/21 16:56:50
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joakes
Billy : Quick question - why don't you list your system specs ?
First question to those who don't put it in their sigs is "System Specs" ;-)
Cheers,
Jerry
Jerry, I've answered this a few times in the past, but the main reasons are: 1- System specs can change, and it means having to remember to update every forum in which one participates. 2- I've been using computers since I was 16 (I'm not a kid anymore, sigh) and have built many; I know my specs are good. That doesn't mean I am a genius, and it doesn't mean there can't be some aspect of my system that might not get along with X1, but based on my many years of doing this I am confident my system is in good shape. 3- It is too easy for too many on this forum to quickly blame the system without even bothering to think through other aspects. While knowing system specs do help deduce things, they are not always a sign of the real problem (as can be evidenced by the HUGE list of bug fixes for X1B). Just to make everyone happy, though: Intel Quad Core, 4G RAM, XP PRO SP3 32bit, Large multiple SATA Drives, NVideo 1G 8600gt Video, MOTU F/W Ultralite MKIII audio. As I've said here or in another thread -- I just completed 2 weeks of work doing HUGE projects (meaning multiple instances of Kontakt4, Independence 3, Maschine, Trilian, various other synths -- plugins all over the place) in 8.5.3 for a bunch of TV cues. I didn't even crash once, I didn't have to freeze anything (though I do before mixing), and I was cranking out work nicely. In that same time I've done some writing in Abelton Live; did some mixing in Studio One Pro. NO crashing -- none. So while I would never "rule out" a system issue, I think the above shows my system is running quite nicely. My suspicion is that this is more related to a project corruption (it's my 'normal.cwt' that I customized when X1 first came out) or a bad installation of X1. I strongly don't believe this particular condition is a system problem.
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ba_midi
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Re:My first X1B crash ;)
2011/03/21 16:57:38
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panup
ba_midi
panup
List your system specs.
This is not an SONAR issue.
-CJ
With all due respect, Panup -- how are you SO sure it's not a Sonar issue?
And, my system is fine. I'll work this out on my own.
My specs are good - and I can use every other major DAW I have (a few!) without crashing. If I feel I need someone to review my system specs, I'll let you know.
First, as I said above, I'll try a full uninstall and reinstall.
I wasn't really asking for help yet. I was simply reporting that I've had a crash already.
So thanks anyway, and I mean no offense by this.
Sorry I did not add smiley.
CJ always asked for system specs from everybody even if it was 100% obvious there was a SONAR issue...
Ugh - oh darn, I didn't pick up on the "CJ" thing LOL
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Re:My first X1B crash ;)
2011/03/21 16:57:58
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I opened a X1A project in X1B, attempted to convert an audio to v-vocal clip and CRASHOLA
USELESS!
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Re:My first X1B crash ;)
2011/03/21 17:01:33
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Twigman
I opened a X1A project in X1B, attempted to convert an audio to v-vocal clip and CRASHOLA
USELESS!
How about not hijacking everyone's thread when you already have your own?
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Re:My first X1B crash ;)
2011/03/21 17:03:53
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BEATZM1D10T
Twigman
I opened a X1A project in X1B, attempted to convert an audio to v-vocal clip and CRASHOLA
USELESS!
How about not hijacking everyone's thread when you already have your own?
I don't feel he's hijacking the thread. A crash is a crash. Seems appropriate to me.
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Re:My first X1B crash ;)
2011/03/21 17:10:53
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Billy,
An honest answer, and I was curious, is all.
I am no longer a "kid" either, but whatever, if the specs help someone, so be it.
I have not had any problems with Sonar XI since its debut, but I notice (I think) I create a different type of music than you which could have something to do with the whole thing.
At most I use SD3 or EZD for my percussion and Independance Free (yep, I'm tight ;-)) for the bass. The rest is over dubbed guitar(s) and sometimes piano or organ or brass or synths (one finger then doubled/trippled in PRV....).
And I don't rely on it for my income, but I am, however, part of a semi-serious group who want to get around the region here in France so we record things as best we can. Sonar fits like a comfortable shoe.
Good luck in getting X1 up and running, its a change in workflow, but IMHO worth it.
Ciao,
Jerry
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Re:My first X1B crash ;)
2011/03/21 17:11:23
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ba_midi
BEATZM1D10T
Twigman
I opened a X1A project in X1B, attempted to convert an audio to v-vocal clip and CRASHOLA
USELESS!
How about not hijacking everyone's thread when you already have your own?
I don't feel he's hijacking the thread. A crash is a crash. Seems appropriate to me.
I'm sorry but that's not how thing's get resolved.
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Re:My first X1B crash ;)
2011/03/21 17:22:16
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I tried exactly what got your crash, Billy, and it wasn't until I started Play that it bombed out for me. Seems it lost my audio driver over this?
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Re:My first X1B crash ;)
2011/03/21 17:24:13
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ba_midi
panup
ba_midi
panup
List your system specs.
This is not an SONAR issue.
-CJ
With all due respect, Panup -- how are you SO sure it's not a Sonar issue?
And, my system is fine. I'll work this out on my own.
My specs are good - and I can use every other major DAW I have (a few!) without crashing. If I feel I need someone to review my system specs, I'll let you know.
First, as I said above, I'll try a full uninstall and reinstall.
I wasn't really asking for help yet. I was simply reporting that I've had a crash already.
So thanks anyway, and I mean no offense by this.
Sorry I did not add smiley.
CJ always asked for system specs from everybody even if it was 100% obvious there was a SONAR issue...
Ugh - oh darn, I didn't pick up on the "CJ" thing LOL
Panup and Billy, I got it right away.
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ba_midi
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Re:My first X1B crash ;)
2011/03/21 17:29:04
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joakes
Billy,
An honest answer, and I was curious, is all.
I am no longer a "kid" either, but whatever, if the specs help someone, so be it.
I have not had any problems with Sonar XI since its debut, but I notice (I think) I create a different type of music than you which could have something to do with the whole thing.
At most I use SD3 or EZD for my percussion and Independance Free (yep, I'm tight ;-)) for the bass. The rest is over dubbed guitar(s) and sometimes piano or organ or brass or synths (one finger then doubled/trippled in PRV....).
And I don't rely on it for my income, but I am, however, part of a semi-serious group who want to get around the region here in France so we record things as best we can. Sonar fits like a comfortable shoe.
Good luck in getting X1 up and running, its a change in workflow, but IMHO worth it.
Ciao,
Jerry
Jerry, I'm about to change the title of this thread as I THINK I've solved these immediate problems, and they were related to the same thing: my normal.cwt created in X1. Redoing it from scratch in X1B appears to have solved my first 2 issues -- I hope there aren't many more LOL. I must say that I have felt, for a long time, that those doing well with X1 very much work differently than some others (including myself). There was no reason for me NOT to want to be using X1 other than the problems that caused me not to use it. IOW, it wasn't an attitude thing. It was a accumulation of bugs. I'm actually dying to dive back in and get solid in X1. So I'm glad to have resolved this for now and see how things fly from here on out. But, again, it's clear to me people tax their systems differently, use different plugins (or don't) and so on -- and it all adds up as to whether the product can manage it all well. I know that other products I'm using for whatever reason, do not have the same roadblocks I've encountered with X1. So now X1B is here, we'll all try to shake out things that can be immediately resolved (like this issue I had) and hope everyone gets rolling and stable and can make some great music with it! I'm in :)
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Re:My first X1B crash ;)
2011/03/21 17:30:55
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For the record - my first 2 X1B issues are now solved (I'm hoping lol).
BOTH the Screenset issue and the crashing were related to what appears to be a corrupt X1 project template (my 'normal.cwt') even though it was created in X1.
Recreating it again in X1B solved both problems (for now at least).
Onward and upward.
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Re:My first X1B crash ;)
2011/03/21 17:32:31
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Twigman
I opened a X1A project in X1B, attempted to convert an audio to v-vocal clip and CRASHOLA
USELESS!
Try opening in SAFE MODE but saying yes to all. I'm curious if that fixes anything because my problem was due to a bad template which was created IN X1 yet by recreating it in X1B it solved 2 problems immediately. Go figure.
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Re:My first X1B crash ;)
2011/03/21 17:36:40
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Good to hear Billy that you are back on board. Heck without you finding answers and solution we were working here with huge deficit.
Now lets see what we can do with X1b.
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Re:My first X1B crash ;)
2011/03/21 17:37:20
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That's excellent news !
May it continue !
All the best
Jerry
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Re:My first X1B crash ;)
2011/03/21 17:39:03
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Twigman
I opened a X1A project in X1B, attempted to convert an audio to v-vocal clip and CRASHOLA
USELESS!
Try opening in SAFE MODE but saying yes to all. I'm curious if that fixes anything because my problem was due to a bad template which was created IN X1 yet by recreating it in X1B it solved 2 problems immediately. Go figure.
Remind me how to do that please
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Re:My first X1B crash ;)
2011/03/21 17:53:01
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John
Good to hear Billy that you are back on board. Heck without you finding answers and solution we were working here with huge deficit.
Now lets see what we can do with X1b.
John, I've never not been 'on board' ;) I just wasn't USING X1 lol. But - it's way too early to know how things will go. I'm going to throw some heavyweigh projects at X1B and see what shakes out. While I am extremely hopeful -- I don't want to jump the gun and predict anything. It's still software and software has bugs. All I want is stability and functionality like 8.5.3 has for me. I don't mind working through 'normal' problems. X1 was not normal lol.
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Re:My first X1B crash ;)
2011/03/21 17:53:41
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joakes
That's excellent news !
May it continue !
All the best
Jerry
Thanks Jerry ;) Let's see what this baby can do now ;)
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Re:My first X1B crash ;)
2011/03/21 17:55:12
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ba_midi
Twigman
I opened a X1A project in X1B, attempted to convert an audio to v-vocal clip and CRASHOLA
USELESS!
Try opening in SAFE MODE but saying yes to all. I'm curious if that fixes anything because my problem was due to a bad template which was created IN X1 yet by recreating it in X1B it solved 2 problems immediately. Go figure.
Remind me how to do that please
Go to FILE OPEN in Sonar, but hold down SHIFT when you choose/click the file to open. It should prompt you about loading the plugins. By saying YES to ALL, you will in effect load them all but with some cleansing mode so to speak. I suggest this only to determine if there was project corruption. This may only be one way to debug it, but for now it's worth a shot.
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Re:My first X1B crash ;)
2011/03/21 18:06:21
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Billy, did you go from X1 or X1a to X1b ? I'm questioning because I too completely redid my normal.cwt template from scratch in X1a after I had a lot of issues (which BTW were mostly cleared up with a brand newly created normal.cwt).
I really hope I don't have to go through ALL that again ...
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Re:My first X1B crash ;)
2011/03/21 18:27:08
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Billy, did you go from X1 or X1a to X1b ? I'm questioning because I too completely redid my normal.cwt template from scratch in X1a after I had a lot of issues (which BTW were mostly cleared up with a brand newly created normal.cwt).
I really hope I don't have to go through ALL that again ...
The sequence for me was: Install X1. Redo my normal.cwt and a few others. Play with. Put it away, it wasn't working out for me. Install X1A when it was released. No changes, put it away - it wasn't working out for me. DId NOT change any templates, however, at all. X1B - installed. Template issue, screenset issue - all derived from the original X1 template. This time I solved it by recreating, as I've said. Now I'm finding little annoyances with projects done in 8.5.3 but I'm not as concerned. The real test will be doing fresh/new projects in X1B.
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Re:My first X1B crash ;)
2011/03/21 18:31:43
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I'd like to see how that goes ...
You doing any with V-Vocal?
The space you have will always be exceeded in direct proportion to the amount of stuff you have...Thornton's Postulate. Bushpianos
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