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2014/12/14 15:36:54 (permalink)

My first amp!!!

Was talking gear w/ friends and I finally found pics of my first "guitar amp" online...
 

 

 
 
Man, it SUCKED! lol

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Re: My first amp!!! 2014/12/14 15:44:04 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Rain 2014/12/14 15:35:21
My first (guitar) amp was some off brand that had a 6" speaker. By all rights (it was 1966) it was a 10 watt.
 
I remember thinking (with zero knowledge, mind you) if I put a "bigger" speaker in it... it would be louder. I just could not suss out where I could get a bigger speaker.
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Re: My first amp!!! 2014/12/14 15:47:25 (permalink)
I remember that if I pushed the volume on that one, you'd feel air winding from behind the knobs and the power button.
 
It was the perfect complement to my crappy guitar.
 
 

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Re: My first amp!!! 2014/12/14 15:50:42 (permalink)
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It was the perfect complement to my crappy guitar.

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I remember asking a neighbor who played guitar (again with zero knowledge) if mine was lead or rhythm guitar. To this day I remember the snicker he gave.
 
I probably still don't know the difference.
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Re: My first amp!!! 2014/12/14 16:03:57 (permalink)
Hence all the snickers I get here.
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Re: My first amp!!! 2014/12/14 16:20:14 (permalink)
Here's mine, an incredibly obscure heap of crap called an Image Imp. Amazed that I was able to find a photo. My god it really was the most unbelievably atrocious hunk of junk imaginable, but I had great fun jamming along with Led Zeppelin on it. Distortion? Why yes, just turn the volume up until the speaker rattles. 
 


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Re: My first amp!!! 2014/12/14 16:21:03 (permalink)
Mine was also 10 watts, can't remember the make. 3 inputs. Guitar, bass and vocals all through it. 'Appy daze.

 
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Re: My first amp!!! 2014/12/14 17:28:25 (permalink)
My first amp was a tiny no name 5watter with one knob...on/off/volume. But my second amp was a 1964 Princeton reverb. Yowsa.

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Re: My first amp!!! 2014/12/14 17:30:04 (permalink)
My first

Very Old, it was allready second hand when I was fourteen.
On the back of the amp or the reverb was a text saying: Made by beautiful californian girls
 

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Re: My first amp!!! 2014/12/14 17:47:46 (permalink)
Because that one sucked so much, I'd rent one from a guy when I could. The rest of the time, I'd borrow the one we had in school. A Traynor, just like this one.
 


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Re: My first amp!!! 2014/12/14 19:55:08 (permalink)
My first amp, in 1974, was a 40 watt FAL combo. All the worst elements of 1970s cheap solid state. Ultra-clean unless absolutely cranked when it was just unpleasant. No reverb but it did have tremolo and a 50Hz hum that could be used as a drone.

My second amp was a 1968/9 Marshall 50 watt Lead head which I got very cheaply indeed in 1979 because it was sounding a bit off and its original owner wanted rid of it because he wanted to buy a new-fangled HH "Valve Sound" transistor amps "because transistors are more reliable than valves". Five new valves and the Plexi was working fine....

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Re: My first amp!!! 2014/12/14 20:04:32 (permalink)
My second amp was a St. George bass amp with a 12" speaker. I played guitar thru it. Actually sold it before I started playing bass. What was I thinking?
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Re: My first amp!!! 2014/12/14 20:15:24 (permalink)
My second amp was barely better than the first - it was a Ross keyboard amp. Not much to redeem it as a guitar amp, beside the onboard chorus.
 
I hit the jackpot with the 3rd one - comparatively speaking - when I managed to get a Marshall Dual Lead Combo. No tube, but, from memory, it was actually pretty good for a Solid State amp. I still see them online going for $250.
 
Had to sell mine for $50 after walking through the whole city, carrying it on my shoulder and trying to get a better deal. It was that or starving.
 
I'd really like to find and try one again, even if just to see how well or poorly I remember...

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Re: My first amp!!! 2014/12/14 20:47:46 (permalink)
I can't remember exactly what my second amp was but it was some kind of Fender combo with a really sweet sounding reverb. Then at some point when I was in a thrash band I bought a Marshall valve head, which eventually blew up. But by that time I had become a stoner and was into folk music and Bob Marley so I swapped it for a Washburn acoustic. Later I bought a really nice Marshall valve/transistor combo but I can't for the life of me remember what happened to it. I hope I didn't sell it for drugs 

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Re: My first amp!!! 2014/12/15 16:33:17 (permalink)
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Because that one sucked so much, I'd rent one from a guy when I could. The rest of the time, I'd borrow the one we had in school. A Traynor, just like this one.
 





Just seeing this picture got my freaky little brain into playing mode. My main amp right now is a Traynor TS-120 from the same era (it looks exactly like that except bigger with more knobs, ins/outs, 5 band EQ, etc). It's actually a REALLY freaking nice amp for an old transistor jobby.
 
Over the past few months I have stopped playing aside from just picking up the guitar unplugged to noodle around or nail down picking/fingering sequences for the theory stuff I'm writing. Before that I had finally gotten around to hooking up my Line6 head and then the Traynor to my mixer (both have XLR line outs). The Traynor line out sounds WAY better than the L6 as far as a usable clean signal. Unfortunately the line out signal is so hot that I have to keep all the levels on the amp set to 0 but I can still screw with the EQs on it.
 
Last time I hooked it up I was screwing around with my Boss OD (yellow) pedal and my MXR Drive pedal and monitoring via my mixer with headphones and I was getting some pretty juicy rock/blues tones (way better than using my sims with a direct in on my interface). Today I was messing around clean just to practice up on the exercise regimen I've been writing down and jamming out some weirdo clean prog/jazz type weirdness.
 
I took a break and started thinking about some of my metal/hardcore stuff so I pulled out my Keeley modded Metal Zone which I had been having kind of a hard time dialing in with the Line 6 using the line outs. With the Traynor it was WAY nicer/meatier/live sounding. Still kind of hard to dial in but MT-2's always are with their hyper sensitive controls. I was getting a ton of brittleness/crackliness in the high range that was making me think it may not work on a recording but I was able to just turn down the tone on the pedal and compensate on the Traynor's EQ sections. It was pretty much perfect after that.
 
Man I love that amp. It's funny because I've owned a ton of Traynor gear over the years because they were always cheap as heck and you could usually just toss a stomp box in the chain and they work well live. Now sadly they have become conidered "boutique" gear and have tripled in price. A buddy gave me this one in lieu of some money he owed me and man it's a real score. I had to get it repaired because the main board was busted somehow so it could only be used as a cabinet but the guy had replaced the factory speakers with some fancy arsed ones so once the amp section was working it was a brilliant piece of machinery. It's looking like it's gonna be REALLY useful for my home recording stuff too with that line out.
 
Anyway... your picture inspired that little rant and a day of riffing out. I'm sure my arms will burn like arsewads tonight from such a long session out of the blue but it was worth it.
 
Oh and my very first amp was a little 10-15w yamaha thing with really bad distrotion. My first semi decent sounding amp (aside from the Fender Vibrato Champ my uncle loaned me along with his Hohner tele) was a Peavey Express 112. That thing was like metal godliness compared to the Yamaha POS. Still pretty crummy distortion by todays standards though but it worked well enough for all the Metallica/Megadeth/Overkill/Anything METAL crap I was learning at the time.
 
 
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Re: My first amp!!! 2014/12/16 00:35:03 (permalink)
Back in the 1960s and 70s, me and my brothers used a Farfisa keyboard amp. It had a 15''
speaker and would blow you out of the room.
Plus, it was red.

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Re: My first amp!!! 2014/12/16 03:51:25 (permalink)
My first guitar amp was branded Vadis it was a 60 watt valve head with 2 x 10" speaker cab. The company dates from the 60's to early 70's in Sydney Australia.
I bought a no-name 12 string hollow body electric guitar with it as a package

I bought it from a 2nd hand store ( pawn shop) for about $250 (5 weeks pay at the time 1973) but then along came the first child and back to the pawn shop it went. The amp not the child.

Sadly I don't have any pics of the gear.

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Re: My first amp!!! 2014/12/16 05:15:40 (permalink)
omg...can't believe that I found a pic of mine!
 

 
Had this thing whilst I was at uni (and for a while thereafter).  It was the size of a medium van, weighed 75 trillion tons and was great for 'clean' sounds, e.g. we used to run the double ('upright') bass through it, or run a CD player through it for parties.
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Re: My first amp!!! 2014/12/16 10:53:29 (permalink)
some really cool stories here!!
 
heheh, 1st amps are kind of embarrassing, eh?
at least realistic had a few bells and whistles.....
 
mine was a bit more....... common.
 
 
 

a sears silvertone, with a tube amp in the case.
really sounded good...
 
but later, i bought another sears product, just because it was in it's own box.
 

 
i guess i liked sears products.
LOL
 
 
i learned how to play all my zeppelin albums on this amp.
 
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Re: My first amp!!! 2014/12/16 11:42:58 (permalink)
It might have been easier to learn them on guitar...
 
 
 
 
My first amp was an awful little box with a terrible small speaker and just two controls. Volume and tremolo...
I eventually replaced it with a Lab Series L5.

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Re: My first amp!!! 2014/12/16 13:18:22 (permalink)
no, i meant i stood on top of the amplifier while i played.
 

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Re: My first amp!!! 2014/12/16 14:42:18 (permalink)
I'm diggin' all these low wattage practice amps... especially the Sears guitar case one. As horrible sounding as we remember our first beasts as being I'd imagine with the right guits/effects coupled with years of experience tweaking our sounds we could all get some pretty interesting tones out them for our recordings. After the "grunge/alternarock" revolution those cranky/squawky guitar sounds are more acceptable and even desirable for certain material. The nicest thing about those tiny amps is being able to push them to the max without any structural damage to whatever building they are being blasted in. I actually kept a couple low watters I had acquired over the years for that specific purpose. My current place is too lacking in soundproofing for even those (ugh) but I'm sure they'll be of use at some point.
 
I really want one of those little Fender Blues champs (the beige one with the tube) or that wacky Yamaha with the modelling capabilities and line outs (I forget the model number but they are cool).
 
Hurray for mini amps!!!
 
Oh... and did anyone ever have one of those mini Marshall stacks? My buddy had one as a kid. It was kind of hokey in a cool way but he was the envy of our circle of guitar dorks in middle school. lol
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Re: My first amp!!! 2014/12/16 15:00:29 (permalink)
but absolutely NOTHING...
 
beats moving air.
 
it's like bacon bits versus filet mignon.
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Re: My first amp!!! 2014/12/16 15:05:01 (permalink)
True, but filet mignon is quite nice as well.

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Re: My first amp!!! 2014/12/16 15:06:03 (permalink)
My first was a Peavey Backstage I got at the local music shop. I still have it in the garage somewhere (I'm a sentimental pack rat) and I bet it still works. It's got to be at least 20 years old now.
 


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Re: My first amp!!! 2014/12/16 15:12:43 (permalink)
batsbrew
but absolutely NOTHING...
 
beats moving air.
 
it's like bacon bits versus filet mignon.
LOL




Certainly nothing like a bowel rattling behemoth behind ya shredding everyone's ear drums but I've occasionally had some problems with TOO much power. I got hired to play with one band and they went and rented me this ridiculous 100w Hi-Watt stack to play through as if we were going to be playing stadiums or something. First gig we played was in this medium sized bar with no stage. All excited about our acquisition we hooked up the stack ready to cause mayhem for the packed room. The blapping thing was SOOOOOO loud it cleared out the entire room (which was filled with biker type dudes and various other rockers). We though it was because perhaps we simply sucked but they had all moved to an adjoining room and to the other bar upstairs to listen. I had the amp as low as it could go without losing tone. After that night we left the second cab completely unplugged and only used it for visual purposes even in the larger clubs. The next time I toured with that band we opted for a single cab to save the rental fees and extra equipment moving. After I bailed on that project they started using fake cabinets even though they were playing MUCH larger stages.
 
lulz...
 
I couldn't imagine that rig in my teeny little apt. I can't even BEGIN to turn up my Traynor. If I put it at 0.2 it would probably peeve someone off.
 
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Re: My first amp!!! 2014/12/16 15:58:47 (permalink)
How awesome is that! I didn't anticipate that this would generate so many cool stories. It's great to see what you guys cut your teeth on.
 
My best buddy back then had a Sears copy of a strat - olympic white, maple neck. Man, I envied him. He bought his first amp from one of our older friends. The cheapest thing - originally it was in a plastic casing, but the guy had built a plywood box and put the electronic and speaker into that.
 
Since neither of us had pedals, we used to run our signal through an old 8-track tape deck, which, when the cartridge wasn't properly inserted, generated generous amounts of fuzzing. How it really worked and how he'd figured that one out I cannot tell. As a matter of fact, it doest seem to make any sense, but that was our fuzz box.

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Re: My first amp!!! 2014/12/16 16:33:39 (permalink)
First rigs are kind of like first girlfriends. You aren't quite sure what all the knobs and buttons do but you fiddle with them with great vigor and enthusiasm usually resulting in all sorts of strange and awkward noises you'd rather not have your friends hear. Time moves on, you develop new skills and acquire more refined tastes but you always think back fondly of your "first".
 
Some even get the chance to reunite for a nostalgic session of knob/button fiddling just like in the good ole days but inevitably it's never quite the same as those first eager, youthful indulgences.
 
Memoooooorrrriiiieeesss.... of the way we weeeeeerreeeee....
 
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Re: My first amp!!! 2014/12/16 16:48:41 (permalink)
I was doing some more research on old gear I used to rent and remembered that modular pedalboard by Korg...
 

 
The one I used to rent had distortion, delay, whatever modulation I can't remember and a 4th unit which I just can't remember. I first rented it because I wanted distortion and that pedalboard was the only thing they had with distortion.
 
The cool thing I discovered was that you could actually play the pedalboard almost like a synth, on it own. Just get it to generate some noise and you could create those otherworldly, insane "special effects" by tweaking the parameters on the effects...
 
I wouldn't be that curious to try my first rig again, but this Korg thingie, I'd sure like to give it another spin...

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Re: My first amp!!! 2014/12/16 16:59:47 (permalink)
I acquired a weird Korg multi-effects pedal unit a few years back (not nearly as old as that thing but still looks pretty old). I was gonna mess around with it yesterday through the Traynor but opted for the MT-2. Maybe tomorrow.
 
It's got a ton of banks and a teeny tiny rocker pedal. The first time I tried it it was really confusing and hard to work but it seem to pump out some cool effects. It's the only rocker pedal device I have too so I think it might be worth some kernoodling if only to use as a wah effect.
 
It uses AA batteries though... which is a little weird.
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