My life will soon be Komplete,,,,

After realizing the limitations of Kontakt player 4, I decided I wanted the full version of Kontakt. 
 
After realizing that Kontakt 5 by itself would cost me $250, I decided that it made sense to get Komplete 9, because for just a little more money you get all that extra cool stuff. 
 
I was able to get a NIB Komplete 7 cheap and that will allow me to upgrade to Komplete 9 for quite a bit less than what it would cost me to get 9 Komplete now.
 
The question is, will the version of Kontakt I get with Komplete 7 run in X3??  Installing Komplete 7 is just a stop off to Komplete 9, but I'm not sure what hassles await me as I upgrade from 7 to 9.  If it's too much trouble, I would just install enough to qualify for the upgrade. 
 
or,,,,, do you think Komplete 7 will be ok for a while and I can upgrade later,,,
 
any thoughts welcome,,,,

lol,,, yeah, I'm like a hermit these days already,,, at least people know where to find me
 
I'm going to get a whole lot of new toys now,,,, I sold my prepaid PS4 slot to someone who wanted it on the first day to pay for some of this stuff I'm getting, but seems like a good way to go for me.  I'd rather have Komplete  ;)
 
I don't even know what version of Kontakt I'm getting.  anyone know??
 
 

kontakt 4 is the version in k7.  where'd you find a copy of it.  fwiw i don't think ni supports it anymore...

Cool, thanks Robert.  I'm going to have my work cut out for me, but hopefully I will be able to get a good workflow going, thanks for the pointers!!  I think I'll try to wait to upgrade for a while, unless I have problems running it in X3, which now seems like I shouldn't.
 
@ swamp, I got it on ebay. 
 
 
 
 

@vlada - sure.  Kontakt is able to internally route things to up to 64 outputs - not talking about Sonar here - I mean that within Kontakt, you can have up to 64 outputs.  I myself do not use more than 16 outputs per any one instance of Kontakt, but in any case the process is the same.
 
1.  Insert Kontakt (I usually pick the one with 64 outputs).  I do NOT let the insert soft synth dialog box create and assign my audio tracks or midi tracks - I choose to do that manually.  I do it this way because of how I end up creating the multiple outputs for multiple loaded instruments, as described in the next steps.
2.  Load several instruments into Kontakt (Piano, Bass, Organ, Rhodes)
3.  Click on the button at the top of the window that turns on the Output Section to become visible at the bottom of the Kontakt window.
4.  Now, in the Output Section, there is a drop-down arrow next to where it says 'Presets / Batch Configuration'.  Click that arrow, then hover on Batch Functions, then click on the one that says "Clear output section and create one individual output channel for each loaded instrument".  This wipes out the default outputs and inserts a stereo output for each load instrument, naming each to the same name as each instrument's preset name.
5.  I happen to want to rename those output channel names to something better, so I always rename them to be for example 'Piano', rather than 'Bechstein Bach', etc.  So, I would end up with output channel names like, Piano, Organ, Bass, etc.
6.  Now, I insert one midi track for each loaded instrument, so if I have 4 instruments I would insert 4 midi tracks, I also name each midi track to something like Piano Midi, etc.  I also set each midi track's Output Midi Channel to match the channel assigned to that instrument in Kontakt.  (each time you load an instrument in Kontakt, it automatically increments the assigned midi channel for the new instrument, so the first loaded instrument is defaulted to midi channel 1, the 2nd loaded instrument gets midi channel 2, and so on.  The Midi Output for each of these midi tracks is also simply assigned to Kontakt.
7.  OK, now for the audio tracks.  I insert pairs of audio tracks for each loaded stereo instrument, such as keyboard instruments, and a single audio track for instruments such as bass.  I then assign left and right outputs from each instrument to left/right mono tracks as appropriate, and for mono instruments I assign to left mono channel.  I also name the audio tracks to be something like, Piano Left, Piano Right, Bass, organ Left, Organ Right, etc.
 
So, that's how I do output routing assignments using Kontakt with multiple loaded instruments in Sonar.
 
Bob Bone
 

Wow- all that work? I understand you inserting tracks, I just don't understand why. I do not have Komplete long as you do, but it sounds like lots of extra work. I would think- the advantage of individual audio tracks for each instrument would be that when you freeze... would it freeze 1 instrument at a time? When I insert instrument, it creates 1 audio track and 1 midi track. Then I create MIDI tracks, but use the same Audio track. I did not think, how I will be freezing it- now that you mentioned- I realize- it may be tough. You say- you insert "Audio track", but you supposed to be inserting "Instrument track. Regular Audio track does not have "Freeze" button, only instrument. Regular Audio track is not paired with MIDI track. My MIDI and Instrument track are paired- if I press Mute or Solo- both Midi and Instrument track stop playing.
 
 
PS: what was the name of software you use to grab Audio from Youtube? Thank you.

Robert, thanks for the tutorial.   I'll be looking for those types of how to stuff as I get deeper into the program.  I've used Samplelank heavily and Giga Sampler to an extent, so I do have some basic mapping and routing knowledge that I hope will help me make the transition, too. 
 
I was actually quite comfortable using Sampletank and have most of the sound available for it.  It worked really well for me because the sounds didn't take a lot of memory and in my old system that was a real advantage,,, but now that I have a new system, I feel like I have the power to use full fledged 24 bit sounds.  A lot of what I'm gearing up for is playing live along with drum tracks on three keyboards with a mic for singing.  I can do this as a solo show playing for parties, lounge type stuff and doing wedding music.
 
I want to be able to set up multi's that would have different voices mapped where I want them and load them quickly.  The Seraphine set is a terrific library, BTW.  It's one of the things that is driving me into kontakt, though.   I want to be able to set up multi's were I can have car horns or novelty sounds like cows mooing or pigs grunting to use as comic additions, or to set up nature sounds, bells, wind sounds etc to use while I'm telling jokes or stories between songs.
 
Using player, you can't just map one voice to a single note, you get the samples mapped across the spectrum and need to change channels to get the sound you want.  Also, I am hoping to be able to slice those samples up so I get just the elements I want. 
 
I will be watching for sales on Seraphine to get deeper into that, too.  I just bought the intro library, which I got on sale, too. 
 
Jlien, thanks for the heads up on the sale thing. 
 
I don't think not being able to load newer libraries will be an issue for quite a while, because I can wait till I get the upgrade to Kontakt 9 for that.  Right now I've pretty much blown the wad and need to not spend more money for a while and just use what I got. 
 
Reading what you guys are saying here, I'm feeling really good about getting Komplete 7.  I think it's going to work for me right away.  hoping it gets here on Wed. 
 
 
 
 ETA,,, I also have my project studio hat to wear, too.  I think using 24 bit sounds will also make my productions more pristine. 
 
Blah blah,,, enough about me,,,
 
how are you guys using Kontakt??? 
 
 
 
 
 

I use Kontakt factory libraries a lot, as well as third-party libraries and samples like VI.One, Sampletekk White Grand, Shreddage Base Pick edition. Although I have Dimension Pro too, I hardly use it (I seem to like multi-timbre ones. Technically Dim Pro can also be multi-timbre, though).

Jlien X
Two important things to know: 1. If you wait a month or so, they'll do their annual Christmas sale (50% off sale) so Kontakt 5 will be half price, too. 2. You won't be able to full edit the libraries that came after the release of Kontakt 5. If you don't need to full edit them you can just use them in K5 Player. I use K4 Full for most of my libraries but also use K5 Player because libraries like Studio Drummer and Abbey Road Drummer libraries don't run in K4.  Hope that helps

I missed out on the sale earlier in the year as I didn't receive the email but will keep an eye out for this one, useful to know, thanks !

Bibs