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My wife wanted Pizza. 3 miles by boat 40 by car...
... and we don't have a boat.
So we drove over to Eastport Maine and found the pizza place. The sign said going out of business Oct 04. We had a pizza pie made with their last batch of dough and it seemed like it was going to close early.
It was good. We were sad. The proprietor was %100 service oriented and a real pro. A class act.
It's hard to encounter a town that has grown so small it can't even keep a pizza parlor in business.
It seem like it happened to the even smaller town we are staying in a few years earlier. There are a lot of boarded up buildings.
The sight seeing and the hiking trails we have found are some of, if not the finest I have ever experienced but it seems like it must be a tough place to be a year round resident.
Both towns had fishery booms in their past but it has all dwindled away.
best regards,
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Re: My wife wanted Pizza. 3 miles by boat 40 by car...
2013/10/01 19:56:47
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Sounds like you are having a great time up there! I have never been but would like to go. The furthest NE I have been is Vermont (did that a few months ago for business).
You mentioned hiking trails... Doesn't the AT end in Maine somewhere?
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Re: My wife wanted Pizza. 3 miles by boat 40 by car...
2013/10/01 22:57:01
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Was he closing for economic reasons, or retiring?
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Re: My wife wanted Pizza. 3 miles by boat 40 by car...
2013/10/02 07:13:54
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Hi maximum,
Yes the AT does end here and it is supposed to be some tough hiking. We have been hiking the more gentle sea cliff trails which I have found surprising in that there are heath bogs right behind the cliffs. We walk on planks through bogs with rare pitcher plants, spagnum moss etc. and then come out on the rocky cliffs with stunning views. A real treat for a flat lander from Florida where most of our bogs were drained and sub divided.
Hi Jan,
Some businesses are seasonal and summer is the high point but the Pizza lady was 365 and said that last summer was too slow for her and she just can't make a go of it. We drove over because it had rave reviews.
The coast up here is so detailed with inlets and coves that each town is a great driving distance from each other even though you can see them all over the water. It not like the So Fla or So Cali endless bummer sprawl. I imagine that makes commerce difficult.
Both towns seem reduced to a few sea food bars, a bunch of sparsely stocked "art galleries", and old style urban decay. I am almost feel guilty being on vacation when I sea the local fisherman walking around on their day off. Everyone is amazing friendly and nice and appreciative of our having visited, so that helps me feel better.
It is so palpable that I had bad dreams about it last night. It seems like people are just starting to buy vacation houses up here but I guess it is just for summer use.
I'll come back for the hiking and sight seeing and hope that folks find a way to keep going.
Anyways... just babbling.
best regards,
mike
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Re: My wife wanted Pizza. 3 miles by boat 40 by car...
2013/10/02 07:28:18
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This slow down and urban decay is all over. Business is the slowest it has ever been for my company in the 22 years I have been in business. I would hate to be starting out in this type of economic environment. Even companies doing well are reducing staff and cutting people back to 28 hrs or less. In a few more years, I fear full 40 hr a week jobs will be the rare exception.
Our closest large town (Wilson) has been trying unsuccessfully for as long as I can remember to "revive" it's downtown business district. They tore up sidewalks and redid them with planters and brick laid in patterns to make it look better. Small businesses come and go in short order. Very few actually stay any significant length of time. Part time workers and unemployed people are just not able to go out to eat and patronize the businesses.
Between laws and regulations, businesses are finding it harder each day to make a profit. I do believe, unfortunately, it will continue to get worse. The America I grew up in is gone. We live in a place that is hard to recognize.
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Re: My wife wanted Pizza. 3 miles by boat 40 by car...
2013/10/02 10:24:10
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Seasonal makes sense. When you first wrote about it, it seemed a little more permanent.
They've been getting by for a long time with the seasons. I'd like to see them have an easier time of it, but I think they'll survive. Take advantage of the services while you can. That will probably help most.
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Re: My wife wanted Pizza. 3 miles by boat 40 by car...
2013/10/02 10:42:52
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...but the Pizza lady was 365 ...
Wow, she's even older than Bapu!  
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Re: My wife wanted Pizza. 3 miles by boat 40 by car...
2013/10/02 12:01:37
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...and we don't have a boat..
lol, this fell through the cracks in my eyes at first reading...
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Re: My wife wanted Pizza. 3 miles by boat 40 by car...
2013/10/02 12:49:23
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I'd say that a viewing of "Mystic Pizza" is in order to honor Mikes' vacation. And I'm off to FLA in a few weeks. Have to watch Miami Vice for that trip.
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Re: My wife wanted Pizza. 3 miles by boat 40 by car...
2013/10/02 12:59:35
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When I lived on Nantucket we'd order Indian food from a place in Hyannis and have it delivered by plane.
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Re: My wife wanted Pizza. 3 miles by boat 40 by car...
2013/10/02 13:16:13
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"Seasonal makes sense. When you first wrote about it, it seemed a little more permanent."
Hi Jan,
What I was trying to convey is that this particular pizza parlor... the only one for about 40 miles in any direction is going out of business for good.
They will not be back next season.
:-(
best regards,
mike
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Re: My wife wanted Pizza. 3 miles by boat 40 by car...
2013/10/02 13:36:50
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Your opening line reminds me of what I say about my Mom. She's only 4 miles by flight, but 20 by car and I don't have wings... (She lives directly across the Columbia River from me.) 
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Re: My wife wanted Pizza. 3 miles by boat 40 by car...
2013/10/02 16:54:49
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I'm totally jealous. I love love love Maine.
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Re: My wife wanted Pizza. 3 miles by boat 40 by car...
2013/10/02 17:41:31
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mike_mccue
"Seasonal makes sense. When you first wrote about it, it seemed a little more permanent."
Hi Jan,
What I was trying to convey is that this particular pizza parlor... the only one for about 40 miles in any direction is going out of business for good.
They will not be back next season.
:-(
best regards,
mike
I should always go with my first impression. How far will you have to go for pizza then?
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Re: My wife wanted Pizza. 3 miles by boat 40 by car...
2013/10/02 18:59:15
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We go home on Saturday so we'll be back in the land of Deep South Style pizza. :-S I like the North East style the best but we have to go all the way to South Florida to get that. ;-)
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Re: My wife wanted Pizza. 3 miles by boat 40 by car...
2013/10/02 22:02:56
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What's deep south pizza like?
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Re: My wife wanted Pizza. 3 miles by boat 40 by car...
2013/10/02 22:38:19
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Old55
What's deep south pizza like?
Depends on what got hit out on the road that day.
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Re: My wife wanted Pizza. 3 miles by boat 40 by car...
2013/10/02 22:59:00
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☄ Helpfulby Beagle 2013/10/03 08:22:47
Deep fried with opossum sausage and okra.
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Re: My wife wanted Pizza. 3 miles by boat 40 by car...
2013/10/02 23:00:17
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None of them sound too appetizing. About the most exotic that I do is BBQ chicken.
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Re: My wife wanted Pizza. 3 miles by boat 40 by car...
2013/10/03 06:20:36
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Where I live we occasionally get a new pizza place that makes a New York Style thin crust. I like that style. The dough tastes like flour, you can taste the Hard Red Wheat. The sauce is never sweet, it has a thin consistency and is placed sparingly. The cheese is layered on thin and the whole experience is like eating a nice pastry. There is a respect for the "whole" in that everything is balanced so as to make a nice overall flavor. If the place wants to survive in our market and if the local news food critic gives them a review and a comparison to the "benchmark" standard in town the pizza gravitates towards a sugar sweet dough that will barely rise out of it's way. The sauce becomes sugar sweet and salty and it becomes a contest to see how much can be slathered on because more is better. Then the toppings are piled on as if the only factor is how much stuff you get. The salts in the meat and the added sugar suffice for flavor and any appreciation for the simple approach of combining flavors by balancing the amount of each ingredient is sacrificed so that people can quantify how good the pizza is with their eyes rather than their tongue. At some point the preoccupation with mass leads to the unseen abandonment of the Hard Red Wheat flour and the flavor of wheat disappears with the use of general purpose bread flour and too much sugar. The quality of the flavor of the cheese goes down hill because quantity is what folks are asking for. The whole experience becomes a sloppy, bad tasting, gut bomb. We once went to a new locally owned authentic Italian restaurant that had just opened and was all the rave. We had salads and Manicotti for dinner. I asked for Olive Oil and vinegar for my salad... they asked around in the back and the best they could offer was Canola Oil. Authentic Deep South all the way! A nice slice of North East style pizza is a real pleasure after trying to enjoy what I have come to refer to Deep South style pizza. If you get up to Atlanta or down to Orlando you can find North East style every where. Anyways... :-) best regards, mike :-)
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Re: My wife wanted Pizza. 3 miles by boat 40 by car...
2013/10/03 06:39:48
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Great. Now I'm really wanting some pizza! Preferably one that looks like this: 
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Re: My wife wanted Pizza. 3 miles by boat 40 by car...
2013/10/03 06:46:29
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so... how did you do the first 3 miles?
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Re: My wife wanted Pizza. 3 miles by boat 40 by car...
2013/10/03 06:56:04
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Have you ever witnessed the Cheese Pizza Disappearance Phenomenom?
It happens at group gatherings. For example; A group of people order 6 pizzas. 5 of them are piled high with everyone's favorite choice of meats. Double this, triple that. Someone meekly suggests that getting a second cheese pizza might be a good idea. The group collectively decides "we hate cheese pizza we want meat".
About 3 minutes after the pizza arrives the cheese pizza has been devoured by the meat enthusiasts. The cheese pizza always disappears first and there are usually 2 full boxes of every ones favorite combinations left to get cold and congeal.
It happens every time!!!
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Re: My wife wanted Pizza. 3 miles by boat 40 by car...
2013/10/03 06:57:52
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Karyn
so... how did you do the first 3 miles?
The water is crystal clear and in the shallows it is aqua marine in color. It's tempting to jump in, but it's 50*F so I figure I'd only last about 1/4 mile. :-)
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Re: My wife wanted Pizza. 3 miles by boat 40 by car...
2013/10/03 08:28:52
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Where I live we occasionally get a new pizza place that makes a New York Style thin crust. I like that style. The dough tastes like flower flour, you can taste the Hard Red Wheat. The sauce is never sweet, it has a thin consistency and is placed sparingly. The cheese is layered on thin and the whole experience is like eating a nice pastry. There is a respect for the "whole" in that everything is balanced so as to make a nice overall flavor.
If the place wants to survive in our market and if the local news food critic gives them a review and a comparison to the "benchmark" standard in town the pizza gravitates towards a sugar sweet dough that will barely rise out of it's way. The sauce becomes sugar sweet and salty and it becomes a contest to see how much can be slathered on because more is better. Then the toppings are piled on as if the only factor is how much stuff you get. The salts in the meat and the added sugar suffice for flavor and any appreciation for the simple approach of combining flavors by balancing the amount of each ingredient is sacrificed so that people can quantify how good the pizza is with their eyes rather than their toungue.
At some point the preoccupation with mass leads to the unseen abandonment of the Hard Red Wheat flower flour and the flavor of wheat disappears with the use of general purpose bread flower flour and too much sugar. The quality of the flavor of the cheese goes down hill because quantity is what folks are asking for. The whole experience becomes a sloppy, bad tasting, gut bomb.
We once went to a new locally owned authentic Italian restaurant that had just opened and was all the rave. We had salads and Manicotti for dinner. I asked for Olive Oil and vinegar for my salad... they asked around in the back and the best they could offer was Canola Oil. Authentic Deep South all the way!
A nice slice of North East style pizza is a real pleasure after trying to enjoy what I have come to refer to Deep South style pizza.
If you get up to Atlanta or down to Orlando you can find North East style every where.
Anyways... :-)
best regards,
mike
:-)
I'm sorry, but it's bugging me and I'm going to have to pull a "Strummy pedantic" on you.... flower = "the blossom of a plant" flour = the finely ground meal of grain, especially the finer meal separated by bolting.
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Re: My wife wanted Pizza. 3 miles by boat 40 by car...
2013/10/03 09:03:55
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When I was a kid I had to swim the Maine waters every summer in order to be permitted to sail with my life best off. Brr.
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Re: My wife wanted Pizza. 3 miles by boat 40 by car...
2013/10/03 10:27:21
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mike_mccue The dough tastes like flower flour,
I'm sorry, but it's bugging me and I'm going to have to pull a "Strummy pedantic" on you....
flower = "the blossom of a plant"
flour = the finely ground meal of grain, especially the finer meal separated by bolting.
Shirley if it actually did taste like flour it would mean it wasn't cooked properly. Pizza dough is basically just flat(ish) bread, and bread should not taste of flour. I vote for the orriginal spelling. "The dough tastes like flower" = "It's bloomin' lovely"
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Re: My wife wanted Pizza. 3 miles by boat 40 by car...
2013/10/03 10:36:23
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Hope you're having fun. If its any consolation Mike there's probably a Mcdonalds near by.
I'm getting hungry.
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Re: My wife wanted Pizza. 3 miles by boat 40 by car...
2013/10/03 11:24:55
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Thanks Beagle. :-)
Hard Red Wheat tastes like Hard Red Wheat... that's what I am trying to say.
all the best,
mike
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