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2012/12/10 13:41:39 (permalink)

NEW SONG - SLOWDOWN

 
Hi everyone , hope everyone is having a good month just before the Christmas holidays this year . 

 
This song started out slow for me , just wasn't in the creative mood because of all the other stuff going on here at home .
Not sure if I should try to add more to it or just leave it as is , maybe a few of you out there might leave me a comment or a suggestion .
I tried to get the mix right , what do you think ? Thanks for listening , I'll checkback later.
 
Happy Holidays to everyone - James
 
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    Re:NEW SONG - SLOWDOWN 2012/12/10 14:27:05 (permalink)
    Interesting collection of sounds... the mix is very good... all the patches, phrases, and beats sound fine... I think you should develop it into a more musical arrangement...
    well done James...
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    Re:NEW SONG - SLOWDOWN 2012/12/10 16:22:43 (permalink)
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    Interesting collection of sounds... the mix is very good... all the patches, phrases, and beats sound fine... I think you should develop it into a more musical arrangement...
    well done James... 
     
    Thanks for the listen and suggestions , I was thinking about messing around with some strings in the second section to help build that up a bit more . My bridge section could use something more in that as well I think .
    Any fresh ideals in your head and ears , its been one of those slow creative months for me in Dec .
    Thanks again for your comments and suggestions , HAPPY HOLIDAYS - James


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    Re:NEW SONG - SLOWDOWN 2012/12/10 16:26:19 (permalink)
    A pleasant sounding waltz James. It's a good backing track, but needs a melody to bring it to life.

     
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    Re:NEW SONG - SLOWDOWN 2012/12/10 18:01:46 (permalink)
    Yes its a kind of slow one but it doesn't have be any faster as they say above just fill it with some melody.
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    Re:NEW SONG - SLOWDOWN 2012/12/10 22:12:18 (permalink)
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    A pleasant sounding waltz James. It's a good backing track, but needs a melody to bring it to life.

             Thanks but the two verses do have a melody , its the trumpet track playing the
             slow melody in each verse unless your talking about my chorus sections .
             I have a chord progression track for each of the two verses and then I added a
             trumpet melody track . 
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    Re:NEW SONG - SLOWDOWN 2012/12/10 22:16:11 (permalink)
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    Yes its a kind of slow one but it doesn't have be any faster as they say above just fill it with some melody.
     
    Thanks , the two verses do have a melody track in each one along with a
    chord progression track . The melody track has the trumpet in it , maybe
    your talking about my chorus sections .
     
    James 


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    Re:NEW SONG - SLOWDOWN 2012/12/11 07:22:58 (permalink)
    Cool groove in 3/4 time!   The trumpet is very legato, but I like it here.  My only crit concerns stereo placement of the instruments.  I think there is room to spread them out, along with the drums, and leave that trumper in the center.  The mix sounds fairly mono to me James.

    I like the sparseness of the guitar too.

    Good one!

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    Re:NEW SONG - SLOWDOWN 2012/12/11 10:00:07 (permalink)
     Nice arrangement James.  The trumpet seems as if it could come forward considerably,maybe through less verb on it? The tempo seems to be dragging slightly. Not off beat just seems like it could use a shot of red bull:) JMO. The snare seems to be coming out a lot more than the rest of the kit. 

     If this is intended as background then it is fine. I'm guessing that your intentions are for it to be mostly an easy listening type of thing.Great job so far!

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    Re:NEW SONG - SLOWDOWN 2012/12/11 10:54:26 (permalink)
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    Cool groove in 3/4 time!   The trumpet is very legato, but I like it here.  My only crit concerns stereo placement of the instruments.  I think there is room to spread them out, along with the drums, and leave that trumper in the center.  The mix sounds fairly mono to me James.

    I like the sparseness of the guitar too.

    Good one!
     
    Thanks for the listen and suggestions , when you say spead them out are you talking about ( panning each track ) in the mix ? I'm guessing thats what you mean by spreading them out .
     
    Thanks -James


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     Nice arrangement James.  The trumpet seems as if it could come forward considerably,maybe through less verb on it? The tempo seems to be dragging slightly. Not off beat just seems like it could use a shot of red bull:) JMO. The snare seems to be coming out a lot more than the rest of the kit. 

    If this is intended as background then it is fine. I'm guessing that your intentions are for it to be mostly an easy listening type of thing.Great job so far!
     
    Thanks , not sure how to get the trumpet out front more then it is in the mix because it already has compression added to that track .
    Have any suggestions how to make that happen ?
     
    Thanks -James


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    Re:NEW SONG - SLOWDOWN 2012/12/11 11:34:08 (permalink)
    Yes James.  And keep in mind that "spreading" "widening", panning, and such can be done in a number of ways, other than the obvious turning the Pan knob.  Use of delays, doubled tracks, Eq, Haas effect, amongst others can be used to widen or spread your field.  On the drums, start by just checking the pan placement of the HiHats vs the Snare for starters in your drum program.

    I'll have to take another listen when I'm in my studio (on laptop now) to check out the trumpet/compression question.

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    Re:NEW SONG - SLOWDOWN 2012/12/11 11:39:19 (permalink)
    Others have made good suggestions on this tune, and I have nothing to add.  But, I think this has a lot of potential and just needs to be finished.  I like where this is headed.

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    Re:NEW SONG - SLOWDOWN 2012/12/11 11:55:09 (permalink)
     You could try the panning the other instruments and if you kept the trumpet centered with either no reverb or a small plate on it this should bring the trumpet out more. You can  add a limiter to the trumpet track/adding some eq. Panning will make it more spacial but over panning will loose mono compatibility.

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    Re:NEW SONG - SLOWDOWN 2012/12/11 22:48:08 (permalink)
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    Others have made good suggestions on this tune, and I have nothing to add.  But, I think this has a lot of potential and just needs to be finished.  I like where this is headed.
     
    Hi Lynn HAPPY HOLIDAYS ! Yea this has been one of those months when creating something is in slow motion . From building our computers , planning our move to Tennessee hopefully in Feb of next year and some other health issues going on being creative hasn't been on top of my list .
    I have been sort pushing myself to get back into it with this tune and I guess I'll keep pushing untill its where I want it to be .
     
    Thanks for dropping in - James


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     You could try the panning the other instruments and if you kept the trumpet centered with either no reverb or a small plate on it this should bring the trumpet out more. You can  add a limiter to the trumpet track/adding some eq. Panning will make it more spacial but over panning will loose mono compatibility.
     
    Yea mixing is not something I'm really great at but I'm working at it trying new things like some of you have suggested .

    tbosco



    Yes James.  And keep in mind that "spreading" "widening", panning, and such can be done in a number of ways, other than the obvious turning the Pan knob.  Use of delays, doubled tracks, Eq, Haas effect, amongst others can be used to widen or spread your field.  On the drums, start by just checking the pan placement of the HiHats vs the Snare for starters in your drum program.

    I'll have to take another listen when I'm in my studio (on laptop now) to check out the trumpet/compression question.
     
    Sounds great , thanks for the tips and information - James


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    Re:NEW SONG - SLOWDOWN 2012/12/12 00:23:16 (permalink)
    TNF - I decided to read the comments before listening. Usually I do not until after (I like to hear with my own ears). But, I did in this case, because I do not want to spend time on yet another incomplete song from you. You get the same replies each and every time. It is time to pay heed. Maybe get some lessons, study music theory, understand what melody and counterpoint actually are. You have decent basic skills, but you seem to be resistant to growth. I do not mean this as an insult to you, or to be argumentative. Its just the way it is.

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    Re:NEW SONG - SLOWDOWN 2012/12/12 03:05:55 (permalink)
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    TNF - I decided to read the comments before listening. Usually I do not until after (I like to hear with my own ears). But, I did in this case, because I do not want to spend time on yet another incomplete song from you. You get the same replies each and every time. It is time to pay heed. Maybe get some lessons, study music theory, understand what melody and counterpoint actually are. You have decent basic skills, but you seem to be resistant to growth. I do not mean this as an insult to you, or to be argumentative. Its just the way it is.
     
    Thats funny the ratings tell the truth , NO YOU NEED TO PAY HEED !
     
    » highest in charts:   # 95   (324,288 songs currently listed in Electronic)
    » highest in sub-genre:   # 11   (31,670 songs currently listed in Electronic > Trance)
    » today's position: # 95 in Electronic
    » today's position in sub-genre: # 11 in Trance
     


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    Re:NEW SONG - SLOWDOWN 2012/12/12 03:08:54 (permalink)
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    TNF - I decided to read the comments before listening. Usually I do not until after (I like to hear with my own ears). But, I did in this case, because I do not want to spend time on yet another incomplete song from you. You get the same replies each and every time. It is time to pay heed. Maybe get some lessons, study music theory, understand what melody and counterpoint actually are. You have decent basic skills, but you seem to be resistant to growth. I do not mean this as an insult to you, or to be argumentative. Its just the way it is.
     
    Thats funny the ratings tell the truth , NO YOU NEED TO PAY HEED !
     
    » highest in charts:   # 95   (324,288 songs currently listed in Electronic)
    » highest in sub-genre:   # 11   (31,670 songs currently listed in Electronic > Trance)
    » today's position: # 95 in Electronic
    » today's position in sub-genre: # 11 in Trance
     
    By the way you need to learn what a melody is  , this song has a nice melody in my verses !



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    Re:NEW SONG - SLOWDOWN 2012/12/12 03:11:10 (permalink)
    TNF, surly you know how easy it is to manipulate those figures? Perhaps you notice that outside of you, absolutely nobody posts them? This is because they are meaningless. Anyway. I will give you credit for consistency.

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    Re:NEW SONG - SLOWDOWN 2012/12/12 04:32:28 (permalink)
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    TNF, surly you know how easy it is to manipulate those figures? Perhaps you notice that outside of you, absolutely nobody posts them? This is because they are meaningless. Anyway. I will give you credit for consistency.
     
    LOL your funny !!  This is the first verse chord progession without the TRUMPET MELODY added to it ! 
      

     
    By the way theres nothing wrong with the song , lots of people here on this forum post WIP songs !
    You act as if I'm the only one who post WIP songs to get some feed back on , excus me you seem to always trash me no matter what and thats because you don't like me and never did in the past .
     
    I don't need your comments or advice I know my music sounds good , your just trying to make me think my music is bad .
     
     
    BYE !
     


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    Re:NEW SONG - SLOWDOWN 2012/12/12 12:06:58 (permalink)
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    Cool groove in 3/4 time!   The trumpet is very legato, but I like it here.  My only crit concerns stereo placement of the instruments.  I think there is room to spread them out, along with the drums, and leave that trumper in the center.  The mix sounds fairly mono to me James.

    I like the sparseness of the guitar too.

    Good one!
     
    Oh I forgot to say my drums patterns were in 6/8 time not 3/4 time
     


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    Re:NEW SONG - SLOWDOWN 2012/12/13 21:17:55 (permalink)
    There's no link?

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    Re:NEW SONG - SLOWDOWN 2012/12/13 22:55:37 (permalink)
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    There's no link?

    You`re correct and I would surmise it`s because Shad tried to give James some Constructive Critisism but as James is much like Bobby (doesn`t really take critisism well and always feels it`s like an attack on him) I fear the prob here is all the goody goody **** going on ...I myself came here years ago to learn but tact doesn`t teach you, hard truths do. Too many people feel the need to be christian or nice here which is great but you don`t learn anything about the craft from people being that way. JMPO





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    Re:NEW SONG - SLOWDOWN 2012/12/14 17:13:52 (permalink)
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    There's no link?

    You`re correct and I would surmise it`s because Shad tried to give James some Constructive Critisism but as James is much like Bobby (doesn`t really take critisism well and always feels it`s like an attack on him) I fear the prob here is all the goody goody **** going on ...I myself came here years ago to learn but tact doesn`t teach you, hard truths do. Too many people feel the need to be christian or nice here which is great but you don`t learn anything about the craft from people being that way. JMPO
     
    NO I'm not Bobby but I do like him , you call yourself a Christian your just a bad a Shad !
    Too many of you think your great , if you as good as you think you are you would not be here on the forum all the time trying to trash those you hate and posting your music for appproval , did they teach you that in the Bible or in your church HOW TO HATE , HOW TO BULLY AND TRASH PEOPLE who you dislike !
     
    I don't call myself a Christian but I do try to be friends with people not hate them and trash them !
    Yes I do get on the affensive with for years now its the same huys who feel they must bully me around hoping I will give up music and leave this forum for good after all thats really what some of you want .
     
    My music might not be the best or greatest but I atlease try my best and some of what I have created isn't all that bad not as bad as you say it is .
    Atlease I don't post my song and start trashing you people for all the wrong reasons , I started this post with a HAPPY HOLIDAY TO EVERYONE !
    What did I get from you people except for trash talk directed at me and my new song , I posted it because I wanted some feedback on the mix but you people ripped it apart piece by piece !
    The real trulth is you , Shad and some of the others hate me , want me off the forum ! If you can't ban him hey lets just trash the man untill it can't take it anymore and sooner or later he will leave for good .
     
    A MESSAGE TO CAKEWALK ! I will not spend another penny on your products because of the way I have been treated on the forum by the same people that trash me and my music all the time .
    Thats why I removed my song link , the song is still posted on SoundClick and will remain there untill I decide to remove it or replace it with another version .
     
    BYE I done posting music on the forum , don't waste your time replying back with your nasty comments toward me !
     
     
     




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    Re:NEW SONG - SLOWDOWN 2012/12/14 17:16:38 (permalink)
    Regardless, hope you have a merry christmas, James.
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    Re:NEW SONG - SLOWDOWN 2012/12/14 19:00:20 (permalink)
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    There's no link?

    You`re correct and I would surmise it`s because Shad tried to give James some Constructive Critisism but as James is much like Bobby (doesn`t really take critisism well and always feels it`s like an attack on him) I fear the prob here is all the goody goody **** going on ...I myself came here years ago to learn but tact doesn`t teach you, hard truths do. Too many people feel the need to be christian or nice here which is great but you don`t learn anything about the craft from people being that way. JMPO
     
    NO I'm not Bobby but I do like him , you call yourself a Christian your just a bad a Shad !
    Too many of you think your great , if you as good as you think you are you would not be here on the forum all the time trying to trash those you hate and posting your music for appproval , did they teach you that in the Bible or in your church HOW TO HATE , HOW TO BULLY AND TRASH PEOPLE who you dislike !
     
    I don't call myself a Christian but I do try to be friends with people not hate them and trash them !
    Yes I do get on the affensive with for years now its the same huys who feel they must bully me around hoping I will give up music and leave this forum for good after all thats really what some of you want .
     
    My music might not be the best or greatest but I atlease try my best and some of what I have created isn't all that bad not as bad as you say it is .
    Atlease I don't post my song and start trashing you people for all the wrong reasons , I started this post with a HAPPY HOLIDAY TO EVERYONE !
    What did I get from you people except for trash talk directed at me and my new song , I posted it because I wanted some feedback on the mix but you people ripped it apart piece by piece !
    The real trulth is you , Shad and some of the others hate me , want me off the forum ! If you can't ban him hey lets just trash the man untill it can't take it anymore and sooner or later he will leave for good .
     
    A MESSAGE TO CAKEWALK ! I will not spend another penny on your products because of the way I have been treated on the forum by the same people that trash me and my music all the time .
    Thats why I removed my song link , the song is still posted on SoundClick and will remain there untill I decide to remove it or replace it with another version .
     
    BYE I done posting music on the forum , don't waste your time replying back with your nasty comments toward me !
     
     
     




    James, Where did I call myself a Christian? ...I am a pure Atheist ...sorry you thought otherwise. As for coming here all the time I rarely come here anymore because of all the freak outs on here rather than just people
    realizing ...Someone is actually giving them good advice. How can I hate you I don`t even know you but I do feel you really can`t take critisism. I don`t think that`s bullying by trying to tell someone the truth. When Have I trashed you in the past? You need to grow a thicker skin and learn basically that`s all shad was sayin......Anyway Merry Ho Ho and Happy Holidays.
     
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    Re:NEW SONG - SLOWDOWN 2012/12/14 21:31:46 (permalink)
    James,
    I listened the other day. I didn't comment because I had nothing to add that hadn't been said already. I like what you have so far on this. Keep it going.

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    Re:NEW SONG - SLOWDOWN 2012/12/14 21:44:22 (permalink)
    Oh well, can't listen or comment on nothing.    Perhaps it shouldn't  have been posted if not ready for constructive criticism.
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    Re:NEW SONG - SLOWDOWN 2012/12/14 21:50:19 (permalink)
    James, at this point I have to assume you are not actually a man, but a 12 year old boy pretending to be a man. A rather sensitive and paranoid boy at that. Nobody hates you, nobody hates your music. All I asked you to do was to try to grow a little musically. How does this relates to me hating you? I can see no reason why anybody would want to ban you. Unless you think being banned is somehow cool, and are trying to get banned thinking it somehow raises your cred. If that is the case you are going about it the wrong way. Get a grip on yourself.

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    Re:NEW SONG - SLOWDOWN 2012/12/16 04:24:36 (permalink)
    foxwolfen


    James, at this point I have to assume you are not actually a man, but a 12 year old boy pretending to be a man. A rather sensitive and paranoid boy at that. Nobody hates you, nobody hates your music. All I asked you to do was to try to grow a little musically. How does this relates to me hating you? I can see no reason why anybody would want to ban you. Unless you think being banned is somehow cool, and are trying to get banned thinking it somehow raises your cred. If that is the case you are going about it the wrong way. Get a grip on yourself.

             Shad the only reason I'm here is because you had to trash me again ! You need
                    help , please seek help NOW ! Think about this  , I spent a year in Viet Nam
                    fighting for this country ! What the hell did you do in your life besides trash
                    people over the internet !
                    I do listen to people here on the forum , you need to get a grip on life !
     
                    LISTEN if you don't like me then stay the hell off my posted songs and
                    STOP trashing me PERIOD ! Grow up please , do you see me treating you
                    this way calling me this or that NO!
     
                     GOODBYE SHAD !! James
     
     
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    Re:NEW SONG - SLOWDOWN 2012/12/16 04:33:30 (permalink)
    Scottytunes


    James,
    I listened the other day. I didn't comment because I had nothing to add that hadn't been said already. I like what you have so far on this. Keep it going.
     
    Thanks for your kindness Scotty , Happy Holidays to you ! I'm sort taking a break from the song right now and messing around with this
    electronica song I just started .
    Two weeks ago I purchased from SweetWater a piece of guitar software
    called ( Strum Electric ) so I have been messing around with that for the last
    four days , this guitar software is for keyboard players who don't play real
    guitars .
     
    Have A Great Christmas Scotty !
    James


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