NEW YOUTUBE VIDEO - "El Perdon" cover (Spanish/English)

"Track not found". Sorry. Marked as Private?

Sorry guys. my bad.
 
Link fixed, below & above;
 
https://soundcloud.com/ci...vern/el-perdon/s-ftC3A
 
Cian

Out-frickin'-standing vocal performance! Piano's excellent, too.
 
I didn't care for the electronic drums, though, but that's partly a personal prejudice. In particular, the kick and toms are too hot and bassy and overwhelm the rest of the mix. Maybe you've got a cajon sample you could try instead? Some classic Brazilian percussion, maybe? (Yeh, I know it's Spanish, not Brazilian).
 
IMHO there is tremendous potential here. I suspect that your monitoring environment is less than ideal and that you're either mixing in headphones or on bass-light speakers. That makes it next to impossible to gauge low-frequency content.
 
SPAN could be your salvation here. Set it to Mastering mode, insert it at the end of the 2-bus, and adjust the slope for between 3.5 and 4.5 (or import a representative reference song and determine its slope). Then shoot for a more-or-less horizontal line on SPAN's spectrum display.

Cian,
 
Great work on the cover.    I have to agree with Bit on this, I think if you find an alternate to the kick and toms you will have a home run.   That said, it is already quite awesome..  
 
Regards

Really nice work, Cian!
 
I know it's Spanish, but the opening vocal line sure did remind me of the lead singer for the Italian progressive band Le Orme from the 70s. Very enjoyable! I can see why you fell in love with it on your trip.

Cian, what's a nice Irish boy doing singing in Spanish, anyway?  Back to your roots, lad 
 
Seriously, great job, tune has a lot going for it, not least of all your fine voice.

 
I've re-inserted your pic here Cian... That tinypic site takes an age for me to load and you're bombarded with junk...

whack
so sub bass is a guessing game.

I'm with you on that one Cian... It's something I am trying to fathom out how to get around myself without having to spend a ton of dosh and completely take over a room in the house (missus wouldn't be pleased). I can't even use my Tannoy Reveals at the moment...
 

bitflipper
SPAN could be your salvation here. Set it to Mastering mode, insert it at the end of the 2-bus, and adjust the slope for between 3.5 and 4.5 (or import a representative reference song and determine its slope). Then shoot for a more-or-less horizontal line on SPAN's spectrum display.

What I would like to know is, what does all this mean? I'm using SPAN too, right now, as well as my Pro-Q plug. 
 
What does "adjust the slope" do? I've now spotted it in the SPAN setting nut I'm clueless.
 
Actually... Scrub all that cos I'm hijacking your thread... Sorry
 
I'll raise these questions again in my EQ thread in Techniques
 
cheers
 
andy

I think I'm getting the "slope" thing now..................
 
From the Voxengo Primary User Guide:-
 

The "Slope" selector (which is defined in dB per octave) allows you to adjust spectrum
analyzer display’s slope around 1kHz. Skewing the spectrum can be useful because
higher frequencies usually have weaker power in comparison to the lower
frequencies. By choosing an appropriate spectrum slope, you can compensate for this
fact and make the spectrum plot look more convenient and meaningful.

"Slope" refers to the angle that frequencies drop in volume between the peak bass area and the upper-midrange. Because low frequencies require much more energy, amplitudes will almost always slope downward. Here are some examples:

The slope is expressed as decibels-per-octave. Typical values are between 3 and 5 dB/octave, although classical and acoustic folk music might be 6 dB/octave while some very bright pop music might be as shallow as 2 dB/octave.
 
Graphical analyzers such as SPAN let you apply weighting that adjusts for that slope, resulting in the display taking on a more-or-less horizontal appearance. This makes it much easier to compare different spectral ranges, but unless you choose the right weighting it can mess you up.
 
The idea is to load in a reference track, some recording that's representative of the sound you're shooting for, determine its slope and adjust SPAN's weighting (slope) accordingly. Then you'll have a visual target to reference, independent of monitoring limitations. 
 
 

UPDATE:
-change the toms and less of them
-Bit more spanish percussion involved
-new spanish pronounciation
-db or two more of master on board
 
Please guys, what stands out, particularly from the last version or those that have heard. at least tell me its better!
 

 
https://soundcloud.com/ci...rn/el-perdon-1/s-xQHCn
 
 

Great to see you back Cian, vocals are majestic as always. Mix sounds OK to my ears but not sure how the genre usually sounds. Very enjoyable.

Hi Cian,
 
Like you say, at 1:48 ish, there is no change in dynamic at all, although this still sounds fine to me. But at 2:10, the song goes through a quiet spell, and down again at 2:30 until 2:50, where it all picks up again, and then even more at around 3:10. So I wouldn't be too concerned about needing a change in dynamic at 1:48 because there is plenty of it throughout the song... In my opinion of course 
 
cheers
 
andy

whack
Its minor, but bothers me!

Ah... Okay... I'm not sure what the answer is then Cian... We need some fresh input 

The song now with a youtube video.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3q0zmpFaXM
 
Thanks for all your help with the audio suggestions.
 
Cian