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Guitar Rig4 Update ver 4.2.1 of 9/1/11 now available!
 

Thanks for the heads up!
Three cheers to NI for issuing such a large (presumably final) update to GR4 when they've just launched GR5.  Any lessons to be learned there I wonder?  Just kidding.
Actually, thinking about Billy's comment above, I think some of the updates were probably also necessary so that the GR5 upgrade fits in properly when purchased and applied?
  
John

Skyline_UK


Thanks for the heads up!
Three cheers to NI for issuing such a large (presumably final) update to GR4 when they've just launched GR5.  Any lessons to be learned there I wonder?  Just kidding.
Actually, thinking about Billy's comment above, I think some of the updates were probably also necessary so that the GR5 upgrade fits in properly when purchased and applied?
  
John

I have to admit it ... I've become a major skeptic in the last 8 or so months.   NI actually has improved itself over the last few years in my opinion, but I do think almost all the music companies (and others) have become chinzy about their innovations.  Meaning -- it's easier to market a few good slogans and throw in a few simple/minor feature tweaks (and make them sound like big tweaks) with the occasional real big feature put in to get people to spend their money.

As someone said to me recently - and I tend to concur:  "It's like people are out of ideas."

I think it's more like over saturation in the marketplace and a desperate need to increase revenues, but in the end if the products are not good, the company will pay the bigger price.  If they are good, the public will pay and be happy.

ba_midi

LANEY


I just updated to GR5 and it does sound great!
Nice rock tones!

Just curious ... did GR4 not sound great?

Yes, if GR5 sounds even better I might allow myself to be gulled (again...) into shelling out for the upgrade!
 
Billy, I'm inclined to agree with you about software development in this whole area.  Are we perhaps approaching the era that spreadsheets and word processing packages have now been in for some time?  i.e. a few years of breakneck innovation with a fairly large number of innovators leapfrogging one another with new (and really useful) enhancements, followed by maturity for the tool in question, with most players collapsing into one another as the market flatlines?
 
John
 

Muskee


Guitar Rig4 Update ver 4.2.1 of 9/1/11 now available!
 

Thanks Muskee.  It seems all my NI stuff needed updating. LOL. Its hard to keep track with so much stuff.

You don't need to the Service Center knows.

I understand that. How do I know that GR was updated?

ba_midi

Skyline_UK


Thanks for the heads up!
Three cheers to NI for issuing such a large (presumably final) update to GR4 when they've just launched GR5.  Any lessons to be learned there I wonder?  Just kidding.
Actually, thinking about Billy's comment above, I think some of the updates were probably also necessary so that the GR5 upgrade fits in properly when purchased and applied?
 
John

I have to admit it ... I've become a major skeptic in the last 8 or so months.   NI actually has improved itself over the last few years in my opinion, but I do think almost all the music companies (and others) have become chinzy about their innovations.  Meaning -- it's easier to market a few good slogans and throw in a few simple/minor feature tweaks (and make them sound like big tweaks) with the occasional real big feature put in to get people to spend their money.

As someone said to me recently - and I tend to concur:  "It's like people are out of ideas."

I think it's more like over saturation in the marketplace and a desperate need to increase revenues, but in the end if the products are not good, the company will pay the bigger price.  If they are good, the public will pay and be happy.

Not out of idea's here ba_midi, just waiting on the right drug combination.  But seriously the trick to all this software hype is get on your own bike.  I am trying to deal with this issue right now.  The one where we have a plethora of never ending software updates that seem to brake your machine or it just becomes oh I will wait until I have that before I can create this.
 
Here is the solution, get your DAW, your interface and your computer and treat it like you would a violin or a grand piano.  Do you throw out one of these instruments every few months no.
 
I as sticking with 8.5 and may never go up to X1, I am a pro and I need pro features to continue my digital journey.  Does that mean I am going to throw away 8.5 not on your nelly, I have an instrument I am really comfortable with and my current combination of DV6 hp i5 laptop works.  I need to do a clean install soon but I am starting to entertain the idea that I will need to keep this current setup-hardware and software indefinitely.  When I go to buy a new setup, I still keep the old one and just move on.  It's a hard concept because I have finally got rid of my original setup(three Creamware cards).  They just sat on the floor for 2 years (I built a rackmount server and had these cards in it).  But keeping a laptop setup is a lot less hard and space consuming and with prices coming down all the time for the peripherals such interfaces and DSP cards, keeping in for it's lifetime should not be that hard.
 
What I mean by this is as a long term experiment keep the laptop as it is for 10 years, does all the component of the laptop still work can I access all the DAW and audio files, do all the plugs work.  Great if they do, then we need to try that laptop again in 5 more years.  You get the experiment.
This hopefully would place a value on your software purchase, you will become a virtuoso on your DAW (this is not a foreign concept and should be encouraged) and you have multiple systems that you could call on or put together in a chain or you can go back to that masterpiece hook the interfaces together and mix the track just like you had mixed a track in Abbey Road 20 years ago and you can still go in there today and everything you used then is still there.
 
I know everyone says backup everything but as I know this does not always work you need a back up of the system you recorded on, this is the only way to ensure you can acces old tracks and material.
 
Hop this all made sence!!!!
 
Peace Ben

Need to vent ...

God I hate Native Instruments web site. I had to use a download resuming program to get the update ... 8 hours ... which is even long for my crappy connection. Their web site sucks and their download's suck, which is why I skipped the last update. I figure with Guitar Rig 5 out now, this may be the last update to 4 so I got.

I don't see anything that grabs my eye in the update. Must all be under the hood.

maximumpower


Is there a list of what was updated?

http://www.native-instruments.com/#/en/products/producer/guitar-rig-5-pro/?page=2508
 
The GR5 update looks really good.  GR5 is the most compelling reason to upgrade to Komplete 8 for me.  I can't see just upgrading to GR5 for $80 and not going to the whole thing for $200 ($170 with frequent MF/GC specials)