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2012/02/26 14:34:31 (permalink)

NI Solid Mix

I was wondering if anyone around here has tested NI's Solid Mix bundle, more particularly maybe in comparison w/ Waves SSL. W/ them dropping the iLock in a few days, that SSL bundle becomes an option. 

But, even if at first I wasn't too excited about the whole having to use the Guitar Rig shell, I could probably get the Solid Mix Bundle for half the price of the best deal on Waves' SSL Bundle. This make the shell issue a bit easier to put up w/.
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    Re:NI Solid Mix 2012/02/26 18:29:33 (permalink)
    Yeah Rain-- I too would like to hear from others about the NI Solid series and how it compares to Waves  SSL or UAD2 SSL or even the Black or White from IK.  

    I figured I would wait until Komplete 8 goes on sale.  In the past NI would put their Komplete.x on sale just before the next Komplete (9) is announced and grab it since it has the Solid series and the Kontakt 5 included.

    So this is a Bump to see if others will offer some comparisons for you (and us).




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    Re:NI Solid Mix 2012/02/27 07:41:06 (permalink)
    I've had the opportunity to hear the Waves one in action when they were released and I was blown away. Unfortunately, at the moment, the only way to test them necessitates an iLock.

    I haven't heard UAD's take on it, but I assume that they must be as good as the Duende ones, which, all in all, are probably the best plug-ins I've tested. But UAD is not an option, at this point and Duende is way too expensive.

    Which leaves Waves - which I know is good - and NI's, which I guess I'll demo by themselves. I've played w/ them a bit in Kontakt w/ Studio Drummer and Abbey Road Drums, but I have yet to test them w/ other material. But I'd still like to hear from folks who've done some side by side comparison, short of being able to do that myself.

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    Re:NI Solid Mix 2012/03/01 07:53:36 (permalink)
    I've started testing them (NI).

    Obviously, having to load Guitar Rig to use them is cumbersome. Then, GR's own noise gate is on by default. And in Logic at least, it loads in mono, no matter what, so it's a few clicks before you get down to business.

    Other minor complain - Since they're all components of GR, you end up using more screen space than would be necessary but the actual plug-ins could definitely benefit from being a bit larger. Those knobs are tiny.

    One obvious advantage though - you can save "chains" in GR - so you can set up a bunch of combinations and presets and store them.

    Though I couldn't actually compare them w/ Waves just yet, after a bit of time w/ Solid Mix, I admit that I like it. It makes it very easy to just dial something that works, at least for the stuff I'm working on. If you're after granular control, that's not what you need. This bundle makes for more radical action. As is the case w/ most models, it pushes you into a certain direction, which may or may not be suited for everything.

    But for my current project/assignment, I was happily surprised to see how quickly and effortlessly I could get sounds that would just sit perfectly in the mix. Almost like, Wow! Did I just do that?! Man, that sounds like something.


    So in its own right, it seems like a fairly decent suite. The Buss Comp I'm not as sure yet. It's been a long time, but I seem to recall that Waves' own made a more noticeable/desirable difference w/ almost no tweaking. But it could be related to the different material.

    Anyway, March is here, Waves is supposed to lose the iLock anyday now, so if I can I'll A/B them. But the NI bundle certainly looks like an option.


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    Re:NI Solid Mix 2012/03/01 08:11:44 (permalink)
    Rain i wasn't at all trilled about the NI .....i still think the boss in the ssl land is ....well real Duende Ssl !! but the wave sare very good also ....

    I second what you say about GR that is a real deal breaker sometime (it was for the vintage comp by softube)

    her'es a work around i made :

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    Re:NI Solid Mix 2012/03/01 09:35:24 (permalink)
    Thanks Zo. I'm checking it out - as soon as it's buffered (streaming here sucks!) Unfortunately I can't quite do the same in Logic. That's an ingenious use of one killer feature in X1.

    The Duende would be a no-brainer - they're the best I've worked w/. For anyone tempted to test them for themselves, you can download a demo which is fully functional for 30 days. Then after a month, you get another 7 days. And so on for a year. 

    But they're also some of the most expensive. We'll see how far I can get w/o them on this project. If the results can justify the expense, Duende is on the top of my list.


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    Re:NI Solid Mix 2012/03/01 19:59:04 (permalink)
    Rain , the more i have plugins the more i tend to try to minise their  number .... specialy (as you already) as i 'm a heavy computer switcher !!

    The duende is a must have (cs+bus comp)....i bought the mini and it was working like a charm ...the native are great also....the Xeq is a must (Heq from waves also)


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    Re:NI Solid Mix 2012/03/02 03:36:54 (permalink)
    Heq is one of the first thing I have my eyes on now that Waves is going iLock-less. 

    Crossing finger that the project will do good enough for me to grab Duende.

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