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Re:Native Instruments/Softube release 1176, LA2A, and 160
2011/06/09 11:51:33
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At least there is not a limiter on the choices.
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Re:Native Instruments/Softube release 1176, LA2A, and 160
2011/06/09 12:29:30
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I think I may end up getting the Black 76 and White 2A... as I have some Jam points which make it appealing... although I also might save them for SampleTank 3 when that comes out
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Re:Native Instruments/Softube release 1176, LA2A, and 160
2011/06/09 13:10:31
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Too bad it's tied into to GR & proprietary. Maybe they'll rethink that, could be slated for K8 release too.
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Re:Native Instruments/Softube release 1176, LA2A, and 160
2011/06/09 13:13:08
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Too bad it's tied into to GR & proprietary. Maybe they'll rethink that, could be slated for K8 release too.
Did not see that.... thx for pointing that out.
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Re:Native Instruments/Softube release 1176, LA2A, and 160
2011/06/09 13:22:45
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Softube makes great stuff. But geeze Louise...how many of these do we need?
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Re:Native Instruments/Softube release 1176, LA2A, and 160
2011/06/09 13:24:55
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Well now we know(part of) what's gonna be in Komplete 8.  edit- sorry Carl, didn't see your post.
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Re:Native Instruments/Softube release 1176, LA2A, and 160
2011/06/09 13:30:25
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carl
Too bad it's tied into to GR & proprietary. Maybe they'll rethink that, could be slated for K8 release too.
Agreed. But you don't "have" to already own GR4 to use these plugs... Apparently they'll run in the free Guitar Rig 4 Player: http://www.native-instrum...r/guitar-rig-4-player/
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Re:Native Instruments/Softube release 1176, LA2A, and 160
2011/06/09 15:17:00
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carl
Too bad it's tied into to GR & proprietary. Maybe they'll rethink that, could be slated for K8 release too.
Agreed.
But you don't "have" to already own GR4 to use these plugs... Apparently they'll run in the free Guitar Rig 4 Player:
http://www.native-instrum...r/guitar-rig-4-player/
That's true, I do own the full GR4 but never use it. What happens if it gets discontinued like Kore? I hate getting stuck like that, especially if it's something I use in all my projects. Oh well, we'll see.
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Re:Native Instruments/Softube release 1176, LA2A, and 160
2011/06/10 00:56:24
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That's true, I do own the full GR4 but never use it. What happens if it gets discontinued like Kore? I hate getting stuck like that, especially if it's something I use in all my projects. I don't think that's going to happen. The way things are going, it looks like they are going to support only three software products (Kontakt, Guitar Rig, and Reaktor) and everything else will be an extension of one of those three.
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Re:Native Instruments/Softube release 1176, LA2A, and 160
2011/06/10 04:32:14
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 ? What a JUNK!!?  I'm sure the plugins (if we can even call it that) sounds pretty okay. But WHO in Gods namn at NATIVE INSTRUMENTS come up with stupidest idea that you need to use GUITAR RIG 4/Player only to be able to use the PLUGINS? You can't use it as normal insert FX plugin? No its not a VST or Direct X plugin, only insert plugin inside GUITAR RIG4/players? That most be the stupid idea so far in 2011 and are way below from saturfaction. No buy from me!!! NATIVE INSTRUMENTS, what are you thinking... Get real! Best regards Freddie
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Re:Native Instruments/Softube release 1176, LA2A, and 160
2011/06/10 09:02:16
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Freddie H
? What a JUNK!!?
I'm sure the plugins (if we can even call it that) sounds pretty okay. But WHO in Gods namn at NATIVE INSTRUMENTS come up with stupidest idea that you need to use GUITAR RIG 4/Player only to be able to use the PLUGINS? You can't use it as normal insert FX plugin? No its not a VST or Direct X plugin, only insert plugin inside GUITAR RIG4/players?
That most be the stupid idea so far in 2011 and are way below from saturfaction.
No buy from me!!! NATIVE INSTRUMENTS, what are you thinking... Get real!
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Re:Native Instruments/Softube release 1176, LA2A, and 160
2011/06/10 09:40:19
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Jim Roseberry
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Re:Native Instruments/Softube release 1176, LA2A, and 160
2011/06/10 10:25:38
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At least there is not a limiter on the choices. 
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Jim Roseberry
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Re:Native Instruments/Softube release 1176, LA2A, and 160
2011/06/10 10:33:22
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don't think that's going to happen. The way things are going, it looks like they are going to support only three software products (Kontakt, Guitar Rig, and Reaktor) and everything else will be an extension of one of those three. Yeah... that looks to be the direction NI is going If these classic compressors can only operate within Guitar Rig (instead of being individual VST plugins), that's just plain stupid.
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Re:Native Instruments/Softube release 1176, LA2A, and 160
2011/06/10 10:47:24
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NOT ONLY THAT.. but it looks like everybody is going the a' la' carte route now ....
IK and the boutique store and in app purchases
NI now ties FX to GR of all engines , although what other product could they use? NI also looks like its focusing its direction on the DJ beats hardware crowd
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Re:Native Instruments/Softube release 1176, LA2A, and 160
2011/06/10 10:47:45
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Some people just can't be saturfied.
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Re:Native Instruments/Softube release 1176, LA2A, and 160
2011/06/10 12:04:22
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I think the idea is to move GR into a general FX platform, not a guitar specific one, and this is just a continuation of that.
IMO, though certainly unwieldy/unnecessary in many respects, it also has some advantages - GR has flexible routing with parallel signal paths, a built in crossover, as well as built in modulation sources (envelopes, LFO's, sequencers).
Want to mix (or compare) 2 different comps in parallel? Or create a multiband from 2 different comps? Or modulate almost anything from a triggered envelope or random LFO? Done.
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Re:Native Instruments/Softube release 1176, LA2A, and 160
2011/06/14 00:03:07
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It also saves a lot of headaches in development and maintenance. Plugin development can be a pain, with issues of compatibility with multiple hosts and formats on multiple operating systems. If they were to develop these products as freestanding plugins, the maintenance costs would bog them down. However, if they build these plugins to the internal architecture of Guitar Rig, they only need to make sure each effect conforms to that an let Guitar Rig deal with communication with the host.
From the user's perspective, NI releasing products as components instead of VST/AU plugins offers a little protection against obsolescence. If a VST you like doesn't sell well, it won't get updated and may end up incompatible with your hardware or operating system. However, a poor selling component will probably stay usable as long as the framework is updated.
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Re:Native Instruments/Softube release 1176, LA2A, and 160
2011/06/14 20:27:07
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mumpcake
It also saves a lot of headaches in development and maintenance. Plugin development can be a pain, with issues of compatibility with multiple hosts and formats on multiple operating systems. If they were to develop these products as freestanding plugins, the maintenance costs would bog them down. However, if they build these plugins to the internal architecture of Guitar Rig, they only need to make sure each effect conforms to that an let Guitar Rig deal with communication with the host.
From the user's perspective, NI releasing products as components instead of VST/AU plugins offers a little protection against obsolescence. If a VST you like doesn't sell well, it won't get updated and may end up incompatible with your hardware or operating system. However, a poor selling component will probably stay usable as long as the framework is updated.
Good point mumpcake... So anyone here compared these to the IK plugs? I'm tempted to get them but if they're going to be in Komplete 8 I should wait.
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Re:Native Instruments/Softube release 1176, LA2A, and 160
2011/06/14 21:31:21
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windsurfer25x
I think I may end up getting the Black 76 and White 2A... as I have some Jam points which make it appealing... although I also might save them for SampleTank 3 when that comes out
Jam points definitely help out with the singles purchases. :) SampleTank isn't in the near near future so you should be okay going all out on the black and white comps. :)
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Re:Native Instruments/Softube release 1176, LA2A, and 160
2011/06/21 03:15:30
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bitflipper
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Its hard to get saturfied by idiocy!
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