chelle
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Need Help With Understanding Loops
I am just learning sonar x2 and am trying to figure out how to create a loop to make a completed song. For example, I want 4 measures to loop 3 times (ex:the verse) - then go to the next part of the song (ex: the chorus). Do I just copy and paste those 4 measures 3 times or is there a trick I am missing? Do making drum loops work the same way? I'd like to make it so I don't have to copy and paste and so much (especially with drum loops which I might change after recording the other tracks), but I can't figure out any other way of doing it. I hope what I wrote here makes sense- Thanks in advance for any and all tips, suggestions, ideas!
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Beepster
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Re:Need Help With Understanding Loops
2013/01/19 14:27:12
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You can turn audio clips into loops by selecting the clip (click it with the Smart Tool), then open the Inspector (press I on your keyboard), click the Clips tab at the top of the Inspector, then select Groove Clip and check off where it says Looping. Now that clip can be dragged out (hover over the end of the clip and drag it) and it will repeat. You can do this with parts of clips as well. Range select the area you want to loop then follow the instructions above. It will snip of the ends so you should probably clone the track first and do it in the new track. There are other ways but that seems to work and it's relatively easy..
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Beepster
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Re:Need Help With Understanding Loops
2013/01/19 14:29:01
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Oh and clips with looping enabled will have beveled corners whereas regular clips are square.
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Loptec
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Re:Need Help With Understanding Loops
2013/01/20 08:01:07
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the shortcut to create a groove-clip of any clip is ctrl+L (this will give you the beveled corners mentioned above) be sure the clip doesn't overlap to the next measure at the end though. it needs to be shorter (this will extend it to the end of the measure) or end exactly before next measure starts
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Beepster
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Re:Need Help With Understanding Loops
2013/01/20 11:12:56
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the shortcut to create a groove-clip of any clip is ctrl+L Ah yes. I forgot there was a keybinding. Much easier. I was very surprised at how simple it was to do this. I thought I would have to manipulate it all in the loop constructor.
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lawajava
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Re:Need Help With Understanding Loops
2013/01/20 23:33:16
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Chelle - loops work fine as the others have mentioned. I happen to tend to use the Select By Time feature for repeating whole sections. I use Select All then Select By Time the range of what I want to copy. Then copy then paste. If I have a chorus with like 20 tracks involved in one quick copy paste I can put a repeat of that chorus with all its tracks anywhere needed for example.
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sharke
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Re:Need Help With Understanding Loops
2013/01/20 23:58:19
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Another way to do it is with special paste. CTRL-C to copy the selected clip, and then CTRL-ALT-V to special paste it at the NOW time. This will open a dialog asking you how many repetitions you want to paste, and also if you want to link those copies to the original clip. If you choose to link the copies, any changes you make to one of the copies of the clip will be made to them all. If you want to unlink a clip, just right click on it and select unlink.
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Beepster
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Re:Need Help With Understanding Loops
2013/01/21 07:55:51
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For some reason linking doesn't work properly for me. I have no idea why. Clip Groups don't seem to have as much functionality as I thought they would either. If I want to make adjustments across tracks I have to manually multi select and hold Ctrl while I make my changes. It's rather disappointing. Perhaps that's fixed in the "a" patch.
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Re:Need Help With Understanding Loops
2013/01/21 08:57:01
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You're talking about a single track or all the tracks? >>For example, I want 4 measures to loop 3 times (ex:the verse)<< In cubase they have the play order track where you define sections then make up a list and it will play it, like verse twice then a chorus and back to a verse etc. I don't know if sonar has something like this, newbie to Sonar.
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Beepster
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Re:Need Help With Understanding Loops
2013/01/21 09:05:57
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I think you can enable looping on multiple clips by multi selecting. Then just hold Ctrl and drag them out.
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lawajava
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Re:Need Help With Understanding Loops
2013/01/22 01:37:49
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Repeating and adding to what I noted above and to add to Sharke's comment, if you grab all the tracks through Select By Time for your desired section, you can use Paste Special to specify exactly where you want to repeat the section and you can also specify number of repetitions to put in. It's very precise and clean but not as super convenient as just dragging a loop to repeat something you want to just keep cycling over and over.
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