vladasyn
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Need MP3 encoder ASAP
Hey, guys! I already asked about it and was refered to some online sources that I was not able to make work for me. I need simple MP3 encoder that would convert .wav to .mp3 at different bit resolution (meaning, 128, 192, 256, and so on). I was ready to unlock Cake's encoder, I know it used to be $20, but I was not able to find it on the web site, and not know if it encodes in different bit depth or just 128. I was refered before to some source code- I was not able to make it work. I need something that I can buy and that works with no issues, making good MPs quality. I don't get it: Audio Creator LE has MP3 encoder, but Sonar 2X does not? This shows screenshots of it but does not say if it supports different bit depth or not. http://www.cakewalk.com/Products/Audio-Creator-LE/feature.aspx/About-Audio-Creator-LE I need to e-mail my demo tonight, and I have no encoder. I used to use WaveLab but my old WaveLab is not for Windows 8. Thanks for your help.
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Re: Need MP3 encoder ASAP
2013/09/06 21:16:47
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Re: Need MP3 encoder ASAP
2013/09/06 22:37:42
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Re: Need MP3 encoder ASAP
2013/09/06 23:05:57
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vladasyn
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Re: Need MP3 encoder ASAP
2013/09/06 23:09:04
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Thank you for your replies. Lame was already advised to me and it never worked. Audacity came without lame- just a skin. I spent hours trying to make it work, I am not doing it again. But thanks, I will look in to other suggestions.
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vladasyn
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Re: Need MP3 encoder ASAP
2013/09/06 23:28:09
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Wrues, thanks for the link, but it has 3 download buttons. I am sorry- I am slow- which one is the right one? Also I am on Win. 8, wondering if it would work- trying to avoid any drama. Thanks.
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vladasyn
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Re: Need MP3 encoder ASAP
2013/09/06 23:30:11
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Scook, I am looking at Cake encoder link you posted (thanks). It says, Purchase of this product is not required to convert your files to MP3. This software integrated encoder is intended to improve file export workflow.
What does it mean?
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Re: Need MP3 encoder ASAP
2013/09/06 23:30:29
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Re: Need MP3 encoder ASAP
2013/09/06 23:33:20
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Confusing isn't it. What they are trying to tell you is that you do not have to buy their encoder if you want to create mp3 files, there is always LAME. But if you want to unlock the integrated mp3 encoder (and you do), this is what you want.
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vladasyn
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Re: Need MP3 encoder ASAP
2013/09/06 23:41:51
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What is CWAF Tool (under the Utilities). And what is "External Encoder Configuration Utility"? It looks like MP3 encoder but I got confused again. Thanks.
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Re: Need MP3 encoder ASAP
2013/09/06 23:50:20
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Cake walk Audio Finder - locate audio files that are used in your SONAR projects ( source) External Encoder Configuration Utility - lets you configure external audio encoders (like LAME) so that you can use them seamlessly in SONAR's Export Audio dialog box ( source)
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Re: Need MP3 encoder ASAP
2013/09/07 00:04:09
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I notice a problem with the integrated MP3. It seem to me that when I create an MP3 directly with SONAR, it always appears to Media Player as if the recording is about 4 times longer than it is. In other words, if the song is actually 3:30, Media Player may say it is 14 minutes long. it plays correctly, but the progress bar is misleading in that case.
If I generate to WAV, then convert to MP3 using Winlame, everything comes out correctly. This is surprising because I believe it is LAME 3.97 in either case.
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scook
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Re: Need MP3 encoder ASAP
2013/09/07 00:13:21
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The integrated mp3 encoder, just like every other export format will only generate a file as long as specified. By default the entire length of the project will be exported. I always specify a time range to export and have never had an export exceed the time range specified. But I guess there could always be a first time.
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Re: Need MP3 encoder ASAP
2013/09/07 00:17:21
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cparmerlee
I notice a problem with the integrated MP3. It seem to me that when I create an MP3 directly with SONAR, it always appears to Media Player as if the recording is about 4 times longer than it is. In other words, if the song is actually 3:30, Media Player may say it is 14 minutes long. it plays correctly, but the progress bar is misleading in that case.
If I generate to WAV, then convert to MP3 using Winlame, everything comes out correctly. This is surprising because I believe it is LAME 3.97 in either case.
In some versions of media player this is a problem if the MP3 is encoded as variable bit rate (VBR). Make sure your encoder is set for a fixed bit rate if this is a problem. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/306507 I am pretty sure that the encoder built in to Sonar is not LAME, but rather a licensed proprietary encoder from Fraunhofer, who claim to hold the patent on MP3. Lame is an attempt to circumvent this patent using a different algorithm, hence the writers of Lame do not themselves distribute a compiled version in hopes of avoiding infringement action.
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scook
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Re: Need MP3 encoder ASAP
2013/09/07 00:25:36
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I am pretty sure that the encoder built in to Sonar is not LAME....
FWIW, there is a notation at the bottom of the mp3 encoder dialog: "Lame Encoder Version 3.97"
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cparmerlee
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Re: Need MP3 encoder ASAP
2013/09/07 00:30:45
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scook
The integrated mp3 encoder, just like every other export format will only generate a file as long as specified. By default the entire length of the project will be exported. I always specify a time range to export and have never had an export exceed the time range specified. But I guess there could always be a first time.
That's not what I am saying. The MP is in fact the correct length. But it apparently includes some bad metadata that makes the Media Player think it is much longer than it is. That throws off the progress bar. When Media Player gets to the end of the song, the progress bar may be only 25% of the way across. As far as I can tell, this is happening on all MP3s I generate inside SONAR, but does not happen when I go to WAV and then convert to MP3 using WinLAME.
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scook
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Re: Need MP3 encoder ASAP
2013/09/07 00:34:45
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And for those that bought the mp3 license for SONAR, a forum member compiled TTSlame.dll (the integrated mp3 encoder) using a newer version of LAME a few years ago. And it works in X2a on Win7 64bit. I have not bothered to test any other platforms. Again the encoder must already be unlocked for the dll to work. http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/1772420
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Re: Need MP3 encoder ASAP
2013/09/07 00:38:54
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scook
The integrated mp3 encoder, just like every other export format will only generate a file as long as specified. By default the entire length of the project will be exported. I always specify a time range to export and have never had an export exceed the time range specified. But I guess there could always be a first time.
That's not what I am saying. The MP is in fact the correct length. But it apparently includes some bad metadata that makes the Media Player think it is much longer than it is. That throws off the progress bar. When Media Player gets to the end of the song, the progress bar may be only 25% of the way across. As far as I can tell, this is happening on all MP3s I generate inside SONAR, but does not happen when I go to WAV and then convert to MP3 using WinLAME.
Never seen that either but I did replace the 3.97 version with the 3.98 version when I installed X2. Maybe it addresses that issue.
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vladasyn
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Re: Need MP3 encoder ASAP
2013/09/07 00:39:47
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I bought the Cake version. It is alright- did the job. (I will miss my 20$, but the thread about LAME was intimidating to me- I have no time to figure it out). Thank you for your help!
I did not pay attention on bar, but some time it would happen if you have some data far away in the song. The file I just converted used to have a tail- I got rid of it before encoding. If you have even small midi dot, it will make a tail.
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Re: Need MP3 encoder ASAP
2013/09/07 00:50:58
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vladasyn
Wrues, thanks for the link, but it has 3 download buttons. I am sorry- I am slow- which one is the right one? Also I am on Win. 8, wondering if it would work- trying to avoid any drama. Thanks.
First of all, donno if it's Win 8 compatible (doesn't claim to be). If you want to try it, just click on the link that say's "Aaron's mp3 Patch 5.6.3.0" (i.e. the top one on the page). If it works with Win 8, this is a slick little program that embeds itself into Sonar so that all its options come up whenever you hit the 'Export' button.
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Re: Need MP3 encoder ASAP
2013/09/07 07:59:21
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Please look at my post about what I used, and it works!
It should be in my 'recent posts' on my profile.
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Re: Need MP3 encoder ASAP
2013/09/07 09:02:38
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Re: Need MP3 encoder ASAP
2013/09/08 11:26:08
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I found Aaron's Sonar MP3 Patch and it works great. I don't have the link but it should be easy enough to find. I found out about it here in this forum. Never had a moments problem with it.
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Re: Need MP3 encoder ASAP
2013/09/08 11:28:52
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It's freeware by the way.
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Re: Need MP3 encoder ASAP
2013/09/08 12:16:21
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wruess
Check this thread....
http://forum.cakewalk.com/Sonar-X2-mp3-encoder-problem-and-solution-m2724985.aspx
That looks really interesting. I've installed it and will give it a spin. I've never managed to get Lame working in X2 (worked fine in 8.5 though). No idea why; I've followed the instructions in a number of threads on the forums but it always fails at the very end of the export stage even though the export options are available, so I assume I've set it up correctly(?)
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Re: Need MP3 encoder ASAP
2013/09/08 22:56:02
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I can't believe people will pay $400 for Sonar, but then whine about forking out $20 for the MP3 encoder.
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Re: Need MP3 encoder ASAP
2013/09/08 23:00:09
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daveny5
I can't believe people will pay $400 for Sonar, but then whine about forking out $20 for the MP3 encoder.
That's a good point, but I seem to recall comments that the Sonar one isn't all that good. Is it as good as anything out there ?
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Re: Need MP3 encoder ASAP
2013/09/08 23:02:17
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daveny5
I can't believe people will pay $400 for Sonar, but then whine about forking out $20 for the MP3 encoder.
I can't believe people pay $400 for Sonar, and it doesn't already come with an MP3 encoder. Please let me know which other DAW's charge for this functionality.
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Re: Need MP3 encoder ASAP
2013/09/08 23:02:39
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daveny5
I can't believe people will pay $400 for Sonar, but then whine about forking out $20 for the MP3 encoder.
That's a good point, but I seem to recall comments that the Sonar one isn't all that good.
Is it as good as anything out there ?
It is LAME 3.97 or if you grab the update I pointed to above 3.98
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Re: Need MP3 encoder ASAP
2013/09/08 23:03:07
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I used to use an external MP3 encoder, but a couple of years ago, I finally coughed up the $20 for theirs, and it has worked for me with no issues whatsoever.
I found no difference in using that versus my external one, and it is simply built in to the export process now, so I like its ease of use and results.
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