Kingrazor
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Need an ASIO expert
I'm having an irritating issue and it might just be a limitation of ASIO + Windows, but:
Every once in a while as I move between programs I won't be able to hear any audio anymore. It usually happens if I get up and leave my computer for a few minutes, but not always. And sometimes even when I leave for a while this happens. The fix has generally been to reset my interface.
When I have SONAR open I can't have any other audio programs open or it won't play audio at all either.
I realize it's bad practice use your personal computer (the one that you web surf and play games on) for your audio machine, but it's the only one I've got.
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Re: Need an ASIO expert
2013/12/28 04:50:12
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Do you have an onboard sound card and an interface? What interface is it? Also try googling 'forum.cakewalk share drivers with other programs' or 'forum.cakewalk share with other audio'. That should bring up similar posts about this problem.
You may need to set sonar to share or set one of the interfaces as the default in windows. Have a read in the absence of any other help at the moment. Some interfaces simply don't share but most do even if it takes a setting change here or there.
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Re: Need an ASIO expert
2013/12/28 07:36:43
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call steinberg !!
lol
more seriously , just use different driver , asio can't be shared , sonar has an option to allow other programm to use it anyway but not a great thing so just do this :
Sonar : use ouput 1/2
Sotware use output 3/4
.... ect be sure to not selected 3/4 as active in sonar , depends on other programm but if it's just like windows media player or some like this , just use on board soundcard (just select it in windows as default)
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Re: Need an ASIO expert
2013/12/28 10:20:18
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It usually happens if I get up and leave my computer for a few minutes, but not always. And sometimes even when I leave for a while this happens. The fix has generally been to reset my interface. If your interface is connected via USB, it's possible your USB ports are being powered down after a period of inactivity. Your symptoms describe that scenario to the letter. Go into Device Manager, find the entries (there'll likely be more than one) labeled "USB Root Hub", open their property pages, and un-check the "allow the computer to turn off this device to save power" option. This'll prevent the USB ports from going to sleep and disconnecting from the driver.
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Re: Need an ASIO expert
2013/12/28 12:19:02
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I have the same problem with my Layla3G. I can only open one audio program at a time...or specifically the one that is opened first, is the only one that will play. I've messed with the "share programs" etc. Never had success.
It's nice to listen to a YouTube or a MP3 without importing into Sonar, WHILE Sonar is open... I like to get ideas, comparisons, etc.
The Layla is a PCI interface and I have just a built in one on the motherboard....which would be fine for simple playback. Since I can't get two to work at once (or Sonar plus anything else) , I typically just disable the cheapie one on the motherboard.
Interested in hearing solutions as well.
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Kingrazor
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Re: Need an ASIO expert
2013/12/29 02:33:58
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I thought it might be USB suspending so I disabled that on all of my USB ports in device manager but it didn't change anything.
I have the onboard audio disabled, and am using an M-audio Fast Track Pro as my interface.
I hadn't tried clicking the "share this device" box before so I'll try that.
The strange thing is even if I don't use Sonar, sometimes when I move between different programs I'll stop being able to hear any audio and have to reset the interface.
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Re: Need an ASIO expert
2013/12/29 03:06:12
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Re-install M-audio drivers or check their forums for anything similar.
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Re: Need an ASIO expert
2013/12/31 04:46:37
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Years ago I had an MAudio Soundcard that did something similar - the only answer I found was to change to a better make - nearly everything I've ever had from MAudio has been a problem or gone wrong at some time or another so they are one Company I will never purchase from again, ever!
Last (and final for me) problem were three Mid Air Keyboards - all went wrong, all tried to be repaired a couple of times then no one would touch them and then they were withdrawn from sale. Shame as when they worked they were really good - just TOTALLY unreliable!!
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Kingrazor
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Re: Need an ASIO expert
2014/01/02 13:41:37
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Tried reinstalling the driver but that didn't help.
Just a few minutes ago I had VLC media player open playing a music file, then I paused it and left the room, came back less than 10 minutes later and had to reset my interface in order to play audio.
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Re: Need an ASIO expert
2014/01/02 17:44:48
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Since you've already disabled the USB power-down option, you can probably assume it's not the USB port, especially if other USB devices appear to not be affected. Now you have to consider the rest of the chain: the audio interface and cable. A flaky cable can certainly do it. My own interface will do it on a very hot day after running for several hours.
Anybody suggested checking for IRQ conflicts yet? Not a high probability, especially if this problem just started, but worth looking into anyway. Also, does it happen with all other USB devices disconnected?
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Re: Need an ASIO expert
2014/01/02 18:14:41
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Jim Roseberry on here installs that interface in his job. You should contact him. You may need to pay for his time but that's between you and him.
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Re: Need an ASIO expert
2014/01/02 22:28:24
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My Mackie will occasionally change to a really high bitrate and I have to bring it back down to hear sound (using the Mackie control panel). I do run two sound cards, which I think is part of the issue for me.
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Re: Need an ASIO expert
2014/01/03 04:08:17
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Take a look at your screensaver too. Many come with audio and mess with resource allocation.
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Kingrazor
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Re: Need an ASIO expert
2014/01/03 19:17:02
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Don't have a screen saver, so I can rule that one out (just double checked to make sure).
Could look into it maybe being an IRQ conflict of some kind.
One note: when this happens, I can still hear my bass guitar when I have it plugged in. Like, if I'm running both my bass guitar and playing back audio from my computer, the computer audio will stop working but I'll still be able to hear my bass.
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Re: Need an ASIO expert
2014/01/25 18:10:37
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Today this happened while I was watching a video. In the middle of the video. Wasn't doing anything else.
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Re: Need an ASIO expert
2014/01/25 18:24:12
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FWIW, when I was running an M-Audio interface, I found its behavior with Win7 a bit flaky. I ended up using the onboard audio for Win7 only and that removed a lot of conflicts I was having. The downside of this is that it requires two sets of speakers. In order to get Win7 to lay off the audio interface, I had to power the interface on and go into "Change sound card settings" (will see both in there) and explicitly assign the onboard audio as "default." This removed Win7 from the loop with the interface, so if Win7 ever saw it power on/off, it would not try to hog or conflict with the drivers.
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Re: Need an ASIO expert
2014/01/25 18:26:27
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If you have both USB2 and USB3 ports, make sure the interface is plugged into a USB2 port.
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Kingrazor
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Re: Need an ASIO expert
2014/01/25 18:46:14
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@Scook: only USB 2 here.
@mettelus: I hope it doesn't come to that but it's looking like it might...
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