Skarda
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Need soft, light brush, on snare in Session Drummer 3
I have X1 producer. I need a soft, light brush in session drummer 3. Are there any included in that package? I can't find any. anything that says brush still sounds like a big slam with a stick. And if there are none, where can I fine a few options. I was also thinking of getting Tune Track superior drummer 2.0 for more options like that. Is that a huge upgrage from session drummer 3? Also need and old Hammond organ synth from the 60s with the spinning horn.., I forgot the model # (B4 or something) Thanks for any suggestions Dan
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FastBikerBoy
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Re:Need soft, light brush, on snare in Session Drummer 3
2011/11/17 11:12:58
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By strange coincidence I could do with one as well, I've got 2 drum machines with zillions of sounds, 2 hardware synths with a zillion drum sounds, session drummer 3 and steve slate drums, and I can't find a decent snare brush sound amongst them. Not even something I can sculpt into the sound I'm after. If you have any luck finding one let me know, of course I'll return the compliment if I do. Thanks.
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Re:Need soft, light brush, on snare in Session Drummer 3
2011/11/17 11:15:25
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what about NI drums inside Battery or Kontakt? btw. If you want various accoustic drums, try Drums On Demand series CDs.
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Re:Need soft, light brush, on snare in Session Drummer 3
2011/11/17 11:18:07
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Re:Need soft, light brush, on snare in Session Drummer 3
2011/11/17 11:25:18
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ghmmmm - nice and inexpensive :)
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Re:Need soft, light brush, on snare in Session Drummer 3
2011/11/17 11:36:37
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This reminded me of this old thread about a bug with the brush swirl in an SD3 kit. Based on the response from Seth Kellogg in that that thread, whatever the problem was has presumably been fixed by now, and that might be one to try: http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.aspx?m=2227867&mpage=1
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Re:Need soft, light brush, on snare in Session Drummer 3
2011/11/17 11:45:39
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I was here this time last year, looking for a decent brushed snare. Ended up getting hold of one of the last available copies of BFD's Jazz'n'Funk expansion kits
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Re:Need soft, light brush, on snare in Session Drummer 3
2011/11/17 11:55:40
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Re:Need soft, light brush, on snare in Session Drummer 3
2011/11/17 12:06:27
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mike_mccue "ghmmmm - nice and inexpensive :)" Yes, for $19.00 you get a Kontakt library that can do this: http://www.studiocat.com/mp3/Brushes.mp3 Just in time for Christmas. Hi Mike or anyone else who may know. Does that require the full version of Kontakt or just the player? It doesn't seem to say on the website, or I can't see it if does. £300 plus for the full version makes that an expensive option given that I rarely use software synth/samplers whereas the library itself is a bargain if it'll load into kontakt player.
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Re:Need soft, light brush, on snare in Session Drummer 3
2011/11/17 12:07:34
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Hammond can be found in Dim Pro under organs - you have a choice of fast or slow
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Re:Need soft, light brush, on snare in Session Drummer 3
2011/11/17 12:17:09
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just been thinking - there is a brushes kit in SD3 - they are very sensitive to velocity but you can get them to sound pretty gentle
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Re:Need soft, light brush, on snare in Session Drummer 3
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Re:Need soft, light brush, on snare in Session Drummer 3
2011/11/17 14:07:42
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FastBikerBoy mike_mccue "ghmmmm - nice and inexpensive :)" Yes, for $19.00 you get a Kontakt library that can do this: http://www.studiocat.com/mp3/Brushes.mp3 Just in time for Christmas. Hi Mike or anyone else who may know. Does that require the full version of Kontakt or just the player? It doesn't seem to say on the website, or I can't see it if does. £300 plus for the full version makes that an expensive option given that I rarely use software synth/samplers whereas the library itself is a bargain if it'll load into kontakt player. You do have to buy Kontakt. I bought Kontakt in the Komplete package a few years back. I kinda feel like it was the very best pound per penny value of any audio software I have ever purchased. It was cheaper than any hardware synth/sampler I have ever bought and watched depreciate to $0.00 and I still use Kontakt almost every day. I enjoy it and regard it as the very best of a state of the art sampler. My hardware stuff just sits on shelves with the capacitors slowly drying out. Once it's paid for the endless search for incremental improvements in sound quality just goes away. I had a keyboard player over yesterday... I had a Kontakt piano waiting for him... he sat down and was instantly happy. I understand that it is no fun to pay the initial price... but I suspect that anyone who does buy it will feel like it makes life so simple that it seems like a bargain. all the best, mike
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Re:Need soft, light brush, on snare in Session Drummer 3
2011/11/17 14:17:29
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Thanks, that may have to wait then. I need to upgrade my computer next month and that snazzy behringer mixer with recording to USB devices is tugging at my wallet as well. I may even have to start working for a living soon.
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Re:Need soft, light brush, on snare in Session Drummer 3
2011/11/17 14:20:02
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If you're looking for a cheaper way to just use this library (though I really do like Kontakt; I have Komplete Elements because I just can't bring myself to buy hte full Komplete package yet) you can get Synthfont and use the Gigasample version of the brush library with it.
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Re:Need soft, light brush, on snare in Session Drummer 3
2011/11/17 19:14:56
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The Purrrfect Brushes page says it's for Kontakt 2. Anyone know if it's compatible with Kontakt 4 or 5, as well?
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Re:Need soft, light brush, on snare in Session Drummer 3
2011/11/17 19:27:53
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I have found that getting any kind of decent drum sounds usually takes a combination of bunches of stuff. I have lots of brush stuff that still doesn't cut it for me out of the box. I can get it sounding pretty good with lots of work (I guess that sums up computer music in general). Addictive drums has a brush set that I haven't got which looks pretty good, except I think AD uses compression or SFz for their sounds. My favorite brush sounds are from an old Steve Gadd CD that I have. I'd like to check out Jim's brushes. Hmm.
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Re:Need soft, light brush, on snare in Session Drummer 3
2011/11/18 02:27:14
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Anyone know if it's compatible with Kontakt 4 or 5, as well? Yes...
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Re:Need soft, light brush, on snare in Session Drummer 3
2011/11/18 03:58:14
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Frank Basile Hi, Checkout the "Groovy Kit" from Smart Loops. Listen to the brush demo here... http://www.smartloops.com/products/samplesets/groovykit.html I think this kit comes with SD2. Thanks for that, I'll check that out. It has also highlighted that my SD2 stuff isn't in the same place as SD3 stuff, which I assumed would have been a thing that happened at install time. Something else to sort out.
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Re:Need soft, light brush, on snare in Session Drummer 3
2011/11/18 06:06:28
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Toontracks Jazz EZX is worth checking out, but you need to have EZ Drummer or Superior Drummer to run it. Purrrfect Brushes seems like an ideal solution if you have Kontakt.
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Re:Need soft, light brush, on snare in Session Drummer 3
2011/11/18 06:11:07
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Skarda Also need and old Hammond organ synth from the 60s with the spinning horn.., I forgot the model # (B4 or something) Missed this first - I guess you mean the Hammond B3 or C3 organs with the Leslie speaker There is a nice freebe called Organized Trio plus some reasonable electric pianos and effects. Look here http://www.genuinesoundware.com/?a=showproduct&b=37 The latest version is VB3 http://www.genuinesoundware.com/?a=showproduct&b=24 for 49 Euros. More expensive, with more organs (hammond, Vox, Farfisia) but arguably less authentic sounding is NIs Vintage Organs.
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Re:Need soft, light brush, on snare in Session Drummer 3
2011/11/18 10:14:08
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Hi Mike or anyone else who may know. Does that require the full version of Kontakt or just the player? It doesn't seem to say on the website, or I can't see it if does. £300 plus for the full version makes that an expensive option given that I rarely use software synth/samplers whereas the library itself is a bargain if it'll load into kontakt player. Hi FBB, FWIW, It's extremely expensive to license the Kontakt Player. If the library is sub $200, chances are good that it won't load/play (other than demo mode) in the Kontakt Player. Our libraries require the full version of Kontakt. If you were only going to have a single virtual instrument, Kontakt would be a good choice. There's enough depth to keep you busy for the next 20 years.
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Re:Need soft, light brush, on snare in Session Drummer 3
2011/11/18 10:35:26
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Thanks for the info Jim, I guessed as much when I saw the price. I'm sure Kontakt is good but given that I have a fairly good range of sounds (for my needs) in hardware and other software I can't really justify the expense ATM just for a brushed snare sound. Unfortunately there's lots of stuff that tugs on my limited studio budget, and that isn't high enough up the priority list just now. Thanks again though.
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Re:Need soft, light brush, on snare in Session Drummer 3
2011/11/18 11:00:43
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Laugh if you will, but an old Roland GM set (like a software Sound Canvas) may give you a good enough light brush, unless I don't understand what sound you want. This would definitely be cheap. For whatever reason, I find myself seldom using traditional snare hits much anymore. I like alternate and lighter back-beat sounds. One of my favorite alternates—opposite of what our esteemed OP asked for—is a hard slap with a tight brush not too loud in the mix. My old Kurzweil PC2R has a bunch of odd percussion sounds (woody, metallic, etc.) that sound like found objects and make great alternate sounds. In the old days (not that long ago), we—me and my studio mates—would put so much snare on a record that there was hardly room for anything else. Some of the sounds were closer to reverberant dinosaur stomps than drums. Hip Hop was ahead of the curve in introducing a wider variety of snare replacements and even though I don't cut that style of music much, I find the genre very forward-looking in terms of sound.
post edited by konradh - 2011/11/18 11:07:48
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Re:Need soft, light brush, on snare in Session Drummer 3
2011/11/20 05:11:51
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I know I wasn't the OP of this thread but thanks for all the suggestions. I've now located the Groovy Brush Kit in my SD2 install and the brushed snares in that are fine for my needs, albeit at they need a very low velocity. Perhaps the OP might want to check those out.
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Re:Need soft, light brush, on snare in Session Drummer 3
2011/11/20 06:40:43
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FBB and anyone else scared off by Kontakt full verson price: If you have a need for Kontakt but simply can't justify the price... Kontakt full is crossgradeable from many licensed Kontakt Player libraries (though not such libraries created/sold by NI themselves, such as the scarbee stuff, etc.). Also, NI have been doing 50% off sales over the last couple of years. One such 3rd party library is Sonic Reality's Infinite Player, which is currently on sale for $11 for the until the 22nd. The crossgrade price from NI is $280, but you may find it cheaper elsewhere. So Infinite PLayer + plus 50% off could get you the Kontakt full version for ~$150. The only question is: were the 50% off sales an act of temporary desperation, or will there be another around x-mas, or next spring? Is it worth $11 to find out? Prduct page for IP: http://www.esoundz.com/details.php?ProductID=2459 RE: B3... +1 on GSi's VB3. Well worth the $$$ if you need a quality B3 emulation. If you just need a hint of a B3, the stuff in dimpro or similar may suffice.
post edited by keith - 2011/11/20 06:47:24
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