NJHK
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Need some help with a technical question
[font="verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif"] Hi everyone, I've been researching for the past 24 hours and I'm not 100% on the answer. I am looking to produce electronic music. I was initially going to go mainly software but now switching to hardware. I currently have an audio interface but it won't support what I need from it as far as inputs. I have a Waldorf Blofeld Desktop Synth and a M-Audio Oxygen 25 MIDI controller currently (connecting USB). I am using Sonar X1 Sequencing Software. My question is this, I've been looking at audio interfaces via USB and mixers via USB but me and a friend aren't sure of something. I know MIDI only carries the notes played but does the 1/4 connections carry the actual sound over USB, for example, from my Blofeld, would it carry the sound and pattern to my sequencing software on my PC? I know currently I have my blofeld going via USB and Sonar doesn't record the actual sound but it references my synth as far as the banks the sound is located in and during playback, its playing the sound off my synth. I'm not sure how to get it to actually record the sounds onto my sequencer. Currently through USB, its also the only way I can have multiple sounds playing from the synth at once (Blofeld can do up to 16 channels). Any help is appreciated.
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The Maillard Reaction
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Re:Need some help with a technical question
2011/02/10 07:40:06
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If the blofeld is the sound module you want to treat it as if it is any other musical instrument. Take the audio out from the blofeld and connect it to the audio in of your audio interface. best regards, mike
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NJHK
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Re:Need some help with a technical question
2011/02/10 07:46:20
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Ok, I gather that but when I do that, say if I get another audio interface that connects USB 2.0 and the path is this: Blofeld -> 1/4 Connection to Interface -> USB to computer -> Sonar Sequencer If I play something on my blofeld and setup to record it on Sonar, will it record the actual sound from the blofeld through this path?
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Re:Need some help with a technical question
2011/02/10 07:52:49
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I don't have a Blofeld - so if someone does - please add / correct the following. USB is for MIDI in/out. Stereo out (on Blofeld) is for audio. In order to record the Blofeld you must pipe the audio (via Blofeld stereo out) into your sound card (audio interface). In Sonar, arm a track with the same audio input that the Blofeld is on and record to a .wav etc A mixer (or a multiple input audio interface) will not help since the Blofeld has only one output... However, if you have or plan to get additional hardware then you can benefit from a mixer or multiple input audio interface (or even both depending on your needs).
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Re:Need some help with a technical question
2011/02/10 08:02:32
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NJHK Ok, I gather that but when I do that, say if I get another audio interface that connects USB 2.0 and the path is this: Blofeld -> 1/4 Connection to Interface -> USB to computer -> Sonar Sequencer If I play something on my blofeld and setup to record it on Sonar, will it record the actual sound from the blofeld through this path? Yes. Where you have "1/4 Connection to Interface -> USB to computer" you can call that "Audio Interface" So, Blofeld --> Audio Interface --> Sonar or Hardware Synth --> Audio Interface --> Audio App
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Re:Need some help with a technical question
2011/02/10 08:06:48
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NJHK Ok, I gather that but when I do that, say if I get another audio interface that connects USB 2.0 and the path is this: Blofeld -> 1/4 Connection to Interface -> USB to computer -> Sonar Sequencer If I play something on my blofeld and setup to record it on Sonar, will it record the actual sound from the blofeld through this path? If the M-Audio Oxygen 25 MIDI is MIDI only then yes, you will need an additional Audio interface. I guess I assumed that you had a combination audio MIDI interface. You can use SONAR to play back a sequence on the blofeld and use an audio interface to record the audio from the blofeld. This is how it was done before soft synth instruments were invented and it is still a 100% viable work flow. best regards, mike
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Re:Need some help with a technical question
2011/02/10 08:09:33
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n0rd I don't have a Blofeld - so if someone does - please add / correct the following. USB is for MIDI in/out. Stereo out (on Blofeld) is for audio. In order to record the Blofeld you must pipe the audio (via Blofeld stereo out) into your sound card (audio interface). In Sonar, arm a track with the same audio input that the Blofeld is on and record to a .wav etc A mixer (or a multiple input audio interface) will not help since the Blofeld has only one output... However, if you have or plan to get additional hardware then you can benefit from a mixer or multiple input audio interface (or even both depending on your needs). I get what you're saying now. Thats why it was only recording the notes and not the actual sound was because I was using a USB cable and it acts like a MIDI tool. I would mainly be recording one track at a time so I don't need to do multi tracking from my blofeld. Yes I do plan to get additional hardware (drum machine for example). I was mainly curious as to the USB from a audio interface was actually carrying the sound to the point where I can record properly.
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Re:Need some help with a technical question
2011/02/10 08:10:53
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n0rd NJHK Ok, I gather that but when I do that, say if I get another audio interface that connects USB 2.0 and the path is this: Blofeld -> 1/4 Connection to Interface -> USB to computer -> Sonar Sequencer If I play something on my blofeld and setup to record it on Sonar, will it record the actual sound from the blofeld through this path? Yes. Where you have "1/4 Connection to Interface -> USB to computer" you can call that "Audio Interface" So, Blofeld --> Audio Interface --> Sonar or Hardware Synth --> Audio Interface --> Audio App Awesome, thank you again.
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Re:Need some help with a technical question
2011/02/10 08:20:34
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Re:Need some help with a technical question
2011/03/20 09:58:30
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Hello All I am running Sonar 8.5 with an apogee Rosetta 200. (great river pre) I also have a Digi 002. In the audio driver dialog box I see both The Rosetta 200 and the Digi 002 but the digi is grayed out. (can not select) Is it possible to use both at the same time so I can increase my interface inputs. I know I can some how clock the digi from the apogee but can I run them independently Into Sonar and choose which one I want on each track. Also, how do I clock the digi from the apogee. This should intern give me 6 inputs instead of 2. Yes? Thanks for your help
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Re:Need some help with a technical question
2011/03/20 14:21:42
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Mbroady, you should start another thread for this question. But, without reviewing the hardware ... How is the rosetta hooked up? I would think you'd plug in the SPdif into the Digi. Therefore, you'd want to use the drivers for the digi. If you are using ASIO you can only have one set of drivers available at a time. Uncheck the Rosetta ASIO drivers (audio>option) and check the Digi. Close SONAR down. When you open SONAR you should have the DIGI available. You can hook up the Rosetta digitally to the Digi and use the Digi software interface to "mix" the Rosetta in. It should be a much better convertor than your digi hardware, so use it for the most important instruments and all overdubs. @
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