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Re: Neptune's Oceans
2013/09/05 18:00:38
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Love the title and the sounds going on here. I know they're probably not, but those low string 5ths sound like the strings on a Roland S550 to me...cool. Like the flute sound that just came in. For some reason this reminds me of the Conan movies a little. Nice job.
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Re: Neptune's Oceans
2013/09/05 18:24:02
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This piece sets a very dream like mood with the exotic sound of a sitar. I like the simple chord progression and the overall sparseness of the song because it allows the listener a chance to fill in the blanks. This would fit well in a video or movie track. Well done.
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Re: Neptune's Oceans
2013/09/05 20:58:26
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Love the title and the sounds going on here. I know they're probably not, but those low string 5ths sound like the strings on a Roland S550 to me...cool. Like the flute sound that just came in. For some reason this reminds me of the Conan movies a little. Nice job.
Thanks Don. The strings are actually the Cakewalk SI-String Section, using the Dark Section preset. I love the comparison with the Conan movies - some of my favorite classic adventure titles! Lynn
This piece sets a very dream like mood with the exotic sound of a sitar. I like the simple chord progression and the overall sparseness of the song because it allows the listener a chance to fill in the blanks. This would fit well in a video or movie track. Well done.
Thanks Lynn. The sparseness is probably because I'm kinda new to this electronic music stuff! I've been an analog recording guy (on and off) for about 30 years, and didn't really pick up synths until CWPA kept giving them away with the upgrades I was buying. I wound up buying P5 and playing with it a little, years ago, but not seriously. It's only in the last year or so that I've really tried to make "electronic" music, as opposed to the traditional "mics-and-guitars-and-drums" production approach. I'm still definitely feeling my way around the synths, and figuring out what I can and can't do with them. Maybe I should find a way to put in a "B" part in the middle somehow?
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Re: Neptune's Oceans
2013/09/05 21:37:26
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Very nicely arranged and lots of nice textures throughout the piece. Everything blend and melds together nicely giving one a shot at a serene moment. Very nice mix and everything fits together. Nice one.
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Walt Collins
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Re: Neptune's Oceans
2013/09/05 22:46:34
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Thanks so much John. This one is definitely more serene than my usual output. :) During the writing process I specifically stayed away from any sort of driving rhythm and instead focused on trying to create more of a flowing soundscape.
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Re: Neptune's Oceans
2013/09/06 00:25:02
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Maybe I should find a way to put in a "B" part in the middle somehow?
that's a good idea... anything to capture attention, and stimulate interest... stir it up... I like the exotic soundscape you've created here, and look forward to hearing more from you... well done, and welcome to the songs forum... 
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Re: Neptune's Oceans
2013/09/06 17:34:25
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Very cinematic. The shuffle beat really makes this work - gives the ambient a touch of drive. Nice selection of sounds drifting in and out. A B part could work, even tho (unlike many ambient pieces) doesn't go on too long.
Lovely song w/ just enough of the ominous to keep up the tension.
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Walt Collins
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Re: Neptune's Oceans
2013/09/11 10:12:51
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Thanks AT for your comments and for listening. I guess it's more of a soundscape than a song really. I've been listening to a lot of Groove Salad lately. ;)
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Re: Neptune's Oceans
2013/09/11 13:58:10
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The opening instrument has a sizzle trail that was annoying to me.
After it got going this is a really nice piece.
Is it just me or does the percussive hits (which sound like a stacked kick and snare) seem, at times, out of sync?
Not my normal listening genre but the production was very good.
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Re: Neptune's Oceans
2013/09/11 15:07:56
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As noted very cinematic with that Sword and Sorcery mystic vibe. Perhaps as a standalone piece a bridge and some other ear candy would be more engaging, but what do I know. Nice piece, mix sounds well hear. Thanks for sharing.
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Walt Collins
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Re: Neptune's Oceans
2013/09/11 15:45:58
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Thanks bapu for your kind comments and for listening. I'm trying to identify what you mean by "sizzle trail". I do have another instrument fading in and out throughout the piece. Is this the sound that you're not liking? http://arcanoria.com/tmp/communications%20from%20neptune.mp3 As for the percussive hits being out of sync, you're right. It's intentionally a bit loose rhythmically, and was not quantized, particularly the hand drum parts. Do you think it's "too loose"?
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Re: Neptune's Oceans
2013/09/11 15:48:48
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And thanks to you as well Wookiee! I was definitely going for a "mystical", "magical" feeling.
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Re: Neptune's Oceans
2013/09/11 15:50:44
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I'm trying to identify what you mean by "sizzle trail". I do have another instrument fading in and out throughout the piece. Is this the sound that you're not liking?
http://arcanoria.com/tmp/communications%20from%20neptune.mp3
Nope it's that instrument (kyoto maybe) that plays by itself in the first four seconds. I am listening thru earbuds (albeit high end Altec earbuds) so that could be the problem. Waltenstein Studios
As for the percussive hits being out of sync, you're right. It's intentionally a bit loose rhythmically, and was not quantized, particularly the hand drum parts. Do you think it's "too loose"?
Just my opinion, but yeah.... too loose.
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Re: Neptune's Oceans
2013/09/11 16:13:57
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bapu
Nope it's that instrument (kyoto maybe) that plays by itself in the first four seconds. I am listening thru earbuds (albeit high end Altec earbuds) so that could be the problem.
That's Dimension Pro's "Sitar and Tambouras" patch, with some moderately heavy reverb. Sitars always tend to have those droning resonant overtones, and I guess the reverb is accentuating them.
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Re: Neptune's Oceans
2013/09/11 16:46:18
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Nice soundtrack quality, and you leave plenty of room for it all to breathe. Sounds good.
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Re: Neptune's Oceans
2013/09/11 19:03:01
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Thanks for listening markno999, and thanks for your feedback!
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Re: Neptune's Oceans
2013/09/11 23:57:34
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Neptune has oceans, but the surface is 50 degrees above "absolute zero..." So not a comfortable environment :-)
I like your synth music. My only critt/nit would be the drums/percussion needs some more variation. This is great music (from what people tell me) to listen to stoned... i.e., Tangerine Dream, Kraftwerk, etc...
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Re: Neptune's Oceans
2013/09/12 00:28:51
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I love those accidental flat keys giving that persian vibe.
This is cinematic for sure and ideal for that purpose. The beat didnt seem out of sync to me up front. The sitar was a good choice.
If used for cinema soundscape its probably fine, for listening pleasure solo it needs a climax at some stage and just a tad too long overall.
Good work could sell this for something.
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Re: Neptune's Oceans
2013/09/12 05:52:50
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Neptune has oceans, but the surface is 50 degrees above "absolute zero..." So not a comfortable environment :-)
I like your synth music. My only critt/nit would be the drums/percussion needs some more variation. This is great music (from what people tell me) to listen to stoned... i.e., Tangerine Dream, Kraftwerk, etc...
Thanks for your kind comments about the music. You're probably right about the percussion needing more variation. I should look into that and see if I can make it more interesting and less mechanical in a future revision. As far as Neptune's temperature goes, it's much hotter there than you would think! The oceans are down closer to the solid core of Neptune, and it gets to such high pressures there that the temperature reaches 5000K and there are thought to be oceans made of liquid diamond. I was fascinated reading about them: http://news.discovery.com/space/alien-life-exoplanets/diamond-oceans-jupiter-uranus.htmhttp://en.wikipedia.org/w...position_and_structure
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Re: Neptune's Oceans
2013/09/12 06:29:26
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I love those accidental flat keys giving that persian vibe.
This is cinematic for sure and ideal for that purpose. The beat didnt seem out of sync to me up front. The sitar was a good choice.
If used for cinema soundscape its probably fine, for listening pleasure solo it needs a climax at some stage and just a tad too long overall.
Good work could sell this for something.
Cian
Thanks Cian! You're right - this is not really a pop piece. It's meant to be ambient electronica, although it's currently a bit short for that genre. I come from a background doing a lot of rock, punk and pop production, so I guess I couldn't quite let go completely and let the sounds flow. This is the direction I am thinking of taking this song. It will probably mean significantly increasing the song's length, taking it firmly out of the realm of pop music, adding a couple of new instrument voices doing solo explorations, and adding a "B" rhythm/break part. As for selling it... my only serious aspiration right now is to create something that would be worthy of getting a spin or two on a big internet radio station like Soma FM's Groove Salad. I wouldn't know where to begin if I wanted to try to sell it. Do you have any pointers? Who would buy such a thing? By the way, I listened to a few of your songs and was quite impressed. You're a great pop producer, as well as writer, singer and instrumentalist. And, congratulations on your recent tour! :)
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Re: Neptune's Oceans
2013/09/12 13:12:46
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I just listened on my Mackie Monitors...very nice...I had listened before in headphones how I usually work but every once in a while I can preview through speakers...this track was a treat! - Shawn
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Re: Neptune's Oceans
2013/09/12 15:45:36
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Thanks Shawn. Glad you enjoyed it!
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Re: Neptune's Oceans
2013/09/12 16:34:30
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Well done - you should get a job writing movie soundtracks if you don't already
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Re: Neptune's Oceans
2013/09/12 18:05:43
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That is really cool. I try doing something like that and it gets too dense and muddy with too much gunk layered on.
I like the way that different little things pop in and out spicing it up as the main groove plows on.
And Sitar is a buzzy sounding instrument anyway, so that is probably what someone else mentioned earlier.
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Re: Neptune's Oceans
2013/09/12 20:06:58
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Thanks for listening and for your comments Charlie and Byron!
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Re: Neptune's Oceans
2013/09/12 21:06:20
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Interesting piece. I hear it as background to some thriller where the killer is doing all these preparations for his nefarious misdeeds.
Well done!
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Re: Neptune's Oceans
2013/09/12 21:13:00
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Hehe, I hadn't thought about it that way Guitarpima. Thanks for listening, and offering your creative comments!
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Re: Neptune's Oceans
2013/09/13 14:32:59
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I have no idea why a word having to do with things like salt and pepper and ending in "ing" got edited the way it did.
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Re: Neptune's Oceans
2013/09/14 12:09:25
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loving the sitar flavor pluggin right from get go. very dark and foreboding. ominously engaging. well well done :) - Daren
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