Mod Bod


I'm not adverse to eating crow so I post this to say that since I purchased the Leveling Amplifier for ProChannel, I have since gone on to purchase the ProChannel Module bundle on the monthly special page.  I said that I wouldn't do that but it is one thing to dink around on your own projects where you have all the time in the world to search for this thing or that but when you have someone paying for your time, any time that you can save only makes you a more attractive bang versus buck alternative to anyone else in your market.
 
I found it vey convenient to press "I" and have the meat and potatoes plugins for any track available for use.  The speed that I was able to come up with solutions for the needs of the project just made the experience more professional.  (not enough to quit the day job)
 
Do I wish that I could use the PC modules in other hosts?  Yes I still do.  I'm guessing that once X1 has progressed to the extent that a new market is needed for the company, those modules will be ported to standard VST versions that won't be locked down to the host.  Then I can use them in Sound Forge as well as other DAWs.

Mod Bod:  It is very nice to see you here again; you have indeed been missed.   Hopefully you will offer your helpful advice more frequently once again especially with SD2 to those of us who need your wisdom which in years gone by you have done with kindness, directness, and with absence of either malice or hyperbole.  While I have looked over the fence to see what else is out there (StudioOne), my reason for not venturing away from Sonar is simple:  I have too many years invested trying to learn Sonar and now X1, and I am now finally comfortable with it and its expanded prochannel, which frankly meet my needs well.  I am an aging guitar once slung (past tense) primate and I am now just too long in the tooth to learn another DAW.  So welcome home.  We look forward to reading your posts again.  

Jonbouy

Starise


I think it was the ability to save and reference chains in an incredible efficient package that had me initally interested. I waited to see if the offerings were going to be of a good caliber. 

I cringe when I hear it said that something,"was good for the price",although I have had that mentality in the past . I no longer want something good for the price. I want something good period.

Looking at the current offerings in PC. I believe the PC is something good period.

Quality without compromise, it seems we share exactly the same modus operandii when choosing between available products.

Robustness comes before anything in my book.

If I wasn't here still helping out people with issues in X1 that I have been familiar with since P7 I'd likely be enjoying the benefits of using Pro-Channel myself.  I learn much about the current state of DAW 2 by doing that, in fact sometimes I learn the odd thing that even some X1 users remain unaware of.

It's only a few minor issues, that I'm very proficient in working around, that remain that have prevented my migration to the new version since it's launch.  Sonar is still my favourite all-rounder despite my money being spent elsewhere during my last upgrade cycle.

   There seem to be many more approaches to some things than I would have ever guessed.

  I knew there were some minor issues with X1 when I bought it , but I also knew that software in general is always on an upgrade path of some kind. If not a bug fix then a version update.I set my expectations accordingly.

 OTOH  you seem to have a  love/hate towards the product,based on other threads. Or at the very least,great reservations.. nothing wrong with reservations. I'm sure they are valid for you. Better to get what you really want. I hope you can get to something that works well for you.

I've always considered Pro-Channel as conceptually sound for exactly the reasons you are stating there Dave.

Interesting. Its funny you never said that in the past. Jon don't think its time to bite the bullet and upgrade?

From one of this weekend's clients;

"PERFECT!!!!
Better than what I was originally hoping for.  Outstanding work.  This one is complete.
 
We've got four more that we'd like done but none are ready at this time.  Will probably be getting like one ready every week or two.
 
Thank you soooo much for your work on this.  It's amazing to me what you've done with that recording knowing what it originally sounded like.  Let me know what we owe you.

Thanks Again Dave."

With the exception of an instance of EAReckon's EAReverb and their Analog Gate plugin and an a couple of instances of EZmix this job was done with Cakewalk plugins.  I love expensive gear and plugins - I just own very few.  And if I can get a customer satisfied and keep as much money in my pocket as I can, I will go that route.  No, that's a lie, I'll never keep the money in my pocket as long as there is another cheap guitar or amp to buy.

All that to say, the ProChannel plugins did the job for me this weekend.  Because the two stock compressors and the new leveling compressor did the job for me, I went out and bought the channel compressor, the channel expander/gate and the Concrete limiter package.

Thanks to everyone who noticed that I was missing.  I'll be around.

Mod Bod you'll find the limiter a wonderful add on.

 
I agree...   It's one of my personal PC favs.
 

Good point, Dub...

Now that Waves is iLok free, wouldn't it be cool to have a classic R-Verb or Trueverb in the PC? (palms are getting sweaty just thinking about it).

Vernon

Glad your experience with X1 has improved, Dave...

Thanks to this "wonderful" forum software failing completely with Firefox and having me doing manual quoting, please let me say this statement made me truly sad: "I think Reaper is more fun to work in, but in a professional setting, I don't like showing someone how fast and powerful a $60 program can be. (Might give ideas)" I like believing that it's skills that count, and not the tools... When I work for someone, not in the music making field, customers pay for what I do and how -> the net outcome, not what I use to get the job done... Anyway, for pros, Reaper is more than 200$... Sigh :( - Mario

In Mod Bod's defense I took that as a humorous statement and not to be taken extremely seriously, as I think he really is one of the "use what you want to" types that just happens to find parts of several DAWs he really likes and parts of several DAWs he really does not.  I'm very much of the "one size does not fit all' mentalities myself, it's just Sonar that seems to fit me best.

And you are correct - if you make a living from Reaper (as in more than $20,000 a year in gross revenues) you should pay for the full commercial license at $225.00.

I like believing that it's skills that count, and not the tools... When I work for someone, not in the music making field, customers pay for what I do and how -> the net outcome, not what I use to get the job done..

 
And I think that's exactly what Dave was saying - if those clients thought they could do it themselves with a $60 app, why do they need him?    Obviously that's not accurate whatsoever, but people are people...
 

Jonbouy

Anyway, for pros, Reaper is more than 200$... Sigh :( - Mario

Exactly for Dave it is that much for his clients though it could be $60.

I'm sure that's what he meant...

Actually, for them it could be free since the demo has a unlimited demo time.  All you have to endure is a nag screen.  And the $60 version covers the license for hobbiests and small volume pro studios.  And there is nothing to contain you in that aspect either.

When it comes to what program to use I've always find it more head scratching the other way round. Why wouldn't someone use what does the job best/easiest for them?

Elsewhere here recently in another thread someone was bemoaning that finding a song tempo using Audiosnap took over "2 hours of painstaking" when it could be done in Cubase/logic/some other program in a few seconds. I tend to think that there must be a touch of insanity in that statement, 'cos why would someone put themselves through that when they know there's an easier way?