kitekrazy1
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Never seen a DAW rated this low before on Music Radar
http://www.musicradar.com/reviews/tech/magix-music-maker-2015-premium-617969 I never liked Magix software. Their authorization makes one worship iLoks. They also took over Yellow Tools which was another disaster and authorization and support doomed them. A grammy engineer was given a copy of Samplitude and after using it he named it Sampli****. I'd never buy any of their products. Check out what Music Radar says about authorization on this entry level DAW.
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Glyn Barnes
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Re: Never seen a DAW rated this low before on Music Radar
2015/03/28 06:20:15
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Wow, that is a pretty damning review. I honestly can't recall seeing as bad a review for any peice of software.
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Re: Never seen a DAW rated this low before on Music Radar
2015/03/28 11:21:25
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I remember trying to get Yellow Tools to work...what a disaster. After a day of frustration I deleted it.
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Re: Never seen a DAW rated this low before on Music Radar
2015/03/28 11:41:39
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Didn't I also hear something about them owning rights to any music you create in it?
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bitflipper
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Re: Never seen a DAW rated this low before on Music Radar
2015/03/28 12:09:27
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That, IIRC, applied to their bundled sampled instruments only. They required a special license to use them commercially.
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Re: Never seen a DAW rated this low before on Music Radar
2015/03/28 12:24:47
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bitflipper I remember trying to get Yellow Tools to work...what a disaster. After a day of frustration I deleted it.
Independence? If so... same here. I actually did get the piano and one other synth loaded and working at one point, but somehow lost them and never it got them back. While the patches sounded nice they weren't nice enough for the hassle.
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Jim Roseberry
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Re: Never seen a DAW rated this low before on Music Radar
2015/03/28 12:36:43
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If you've got Norton on your machine (which shouldn't be on a DAW), that can cause issues with the Magix authorization process. Independence was a nightmare as far as authorization. Connecting (or removing) an external HD would reset it. As for Samplitude, authorization is quick/easy... and doesn't reset like mentioned above. As for "Grammy Winning Producer", they're all over the place. One guy/gal's opinion is just that... one opinion. One of the best mastering engineers on the planet uses Sequoia.
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Glyn Barnes
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Re: Never seen a DAW rated this low before on Music Radar
2015/03/28 13:19:48
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I bought Independence back in the Yellowtools days, I did not have problems authorising until Magix took over. No matter what I did I could not get it running. It was one of the few times I have needed to contact support. Why the clear instructions I received by email were not in the documentation I could not understand. Once I had the instructions it worked well. I have not had issues with loss or authorisation when connecting external disks or hardware. Independence is still my go to for saxes. The Kirk Hunter orchestral instruments are as good as it gets in a factory library. I still use them occasionally even though I have larger Kirk Hunter Kontakt libraries because they are a lot lighter on resources.
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dubdisciple
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Re: Never seen a DAW rated this low before on Music Radar
2015/03/28 15:09:22
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Ouch. Definitely the harshest review I have seen from them. I too tried Independence and deleted afeter a week of frustration
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Re: Never seen a DAW rated this low before on Music Radar
2015/03/28 19:49:25
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I think Independence had a great trajectory for a product but it got too overwhelming for their support. The original Ilok idea was a disaster and when ported over to electronic registration it got even worse. The program was really well designed IMho. I think Magix was able to buy it as a package and all they planned to do was dockey around the registration bit. Which got even worse. Too bad because the samples are great - the sampling / synth / playback aspects are really good. It had a bright future in my opinion. I still think it kicks Kontact to the curb - ( I can't stand the Kontact interface ). It's still the only sampler that I know of that supports external VST instruments residing right along it's own Synth / Sample engine ,which makes it's potential huge. I was doing a few projects where I was taking some Steely Dan midi files and just plugging in Independence instruments and the samples just fit so well right out of the gate. I still use it - but I know there is no growth planned so it pretty much just lives as Rompler for me.
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Re: Never seen a DAW rated this low before on Music Radar
2015/03/28 21:23:41
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They've been selling it over on Amazon.de for €50 or so in their so-called lightning deals.
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Re: Never seen a DAW rated this low before on Music Radar
2015/03/30 05:44:40
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World Flutes are great! :^) I gave the Magix Samplitude Pro demo a test drive recently (amongst several others). To see how easily I could get on with each, I gave myself the (hopefully) simple task of inserting ARC2 into the master channel fx bin without any reference to help or manuals. Most that I tried (e.g. Studio One, MuLabs) I figured out within seconds. After 10-15 minutes of staring at Samplitude's interface I just felt like the apes at the beginning of 2001 A Space Odyssey sitting in front of the Monolith. I felt sure that I was looking at something of great power and sophistication, but entirely alien in its origin and beyond my capability to understand.
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kitekrazy1
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Re: Never seen a DAW rated this low before on Music Radar
2015/03/30 20:22:46
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Jim Roseberry If you've got Norton on your machine (which shouldn't be on a DAW), that can cause issues with the Magix authorization process. Independence was a nightmare as far as authorization. Connecting (or removing) an external HD would reset it. As for Samplitude, authorization is quick/easy... and doesn't reset like mentioned above. As for "Grammy Winning Producer", they're all over the place. One guy/gal's opinion is just that... one opinion. One of the best mastering engineers on the planet uses Sequoia.
This one you would know for sure. You have built a system or more for him. He uses Nuendo.
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kitekrazy1
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Re: Never seen a DAW rated this low before on Music Radar
2015/03/30 20:34:41
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bitflipper I remember trying to get Yellow Tools to work...what a disaster. After a day of frustration I deleted it.
They had a big sale once and it led to a 100 page plus is rants on KVR about how bad the products were. I would have preferred Cakewalk would have bought them than Magix. They really haven't promoted Independence.
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Jim Roseberry
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Re: Never seen a DAW rated this low before on Music Radar
2015/03/31 01:24:11
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kitekrazy1 This one you would know for sure. You have built a system or more for him. He uses Nuendo.
Ted never liked any version of Samplitude.
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Re: Never seen a DAW rated this low before on Music Radar
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Jim Roseberry
kitekrazy1 This one you would know for sure. You have built a system or more for him. He uses Nuendo.
Ted never liked any version of Samplitude.
Yep. Ted didn't like Samplitude, Athlons, overclocked Celerons, Logic (after it went Apple) or Cakewalk (after they didn't give him a free copy for not filing betatest reports.) He did gush over one of my tunes once, so he's OK in my book.
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stevec
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Re: Never seen a DAW rated this low before on Music Radar
2015/04/01 00:09:40
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Ohhh.... that Ted. He did really really like Windows 98 though.
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Re: Never seen a DAW rated this low before on Music Radar
2015/04/02 16:13:04
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Magix also make Samplitude and Sequoia which are both stand out applications. It did make improvements in the mixing department and when it created it's own line of VST's it helped. The inbuilt mastering tools are pretty good though with the "all in one place" approach rather than to a new project before burning. What has let it down was the MIDI support which is obviously a big part of any DAW/
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Re: Never seen a DAW rated this low before on Music Radar
2015/04/03 08:18:31
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I still use Independence 3 occasionally. Especially like some of the brass. Never really had problems with the authorisation.
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