New Bit - Junglefoot

Lefty drummer too, my only observation would be that it all a bit stereo if you get my drift.

Thanks for sharing.

Hi Glenbo, nice one, like it.

Greetings, Rik

Glennbo

Wookiee




Lefty drummer too, my only observation would be that it all a bit stereo if you get my drift.

Thanks for sharing.

Thanks John!   :)

The clavinet and Hammond organ are panned about 40% off of each other, the guitar and bass are dead center, and drums are panned from the perspective of sitting behind the kit.

I was pulling ones leg with the lefty drummer
 
 

Glen,

I usually admire you tunes for their funkyness and clean sound.

This one, IMHO, is less funky and seems mixed way to hot.

Still all the parts were played with skill.

Portsmouth


I loved this. I played it all morning.

For a thrown together song this is a great effort.

Thanks Paul!   :)

I went back tonight and cleaned up a couple places that were really bothering me while listening to the mix in my car.  I think the last tweaks smoothed it out better.

BenMMusTech


Really good mix, I test all my mixes on cheap logitech computer speakers it generally means the mix will transfer.  Not my kind of music, which is strange because I love odd time signatures, it does have moments of Emerson Lake and Palmer.  Don't listen to the post who was criticising your stereo panning, I mix all my drums from the drummers perspective and I don't even play or use a real kit.  I think that when you listen to music that has a left hand drummer the mix actually works better, my belief is that has something to do with our brains and how we perceive things (ok this is just wild speculation)

Peace

Thanks Ben!   :)

I've always thought that just like the stereo panning of a piano, that drums should also match the left to right perspective of what the player hears.  Could you imagine playing a glissando on a Steinway or Bosendorfer grand piano sample that pans opposite of the direction your hand is moving?  Same applies with snare, toms and cymbals for me.

tyacko


Very cool.  I got that Yes vibe from it.  Very nice use of instruments thru out.  I especially like the reverb you've applied to the mix as it give it just the right crispness during stops.

I really enjoyed it!

Thanks for sharing,
Tom

Thanks Tyacko!   :)

Bill Bruford has always been a big influence in my drumming.  Chris Squire's bass playing has also influenced my bass playing.

Glennbo

BenMMusTech


Really good mix, I test all my mixes on cheap logitech computer speakers it generally means the mix will transfer.  Not my kind of music, which is strange because I love odd time signatures, it does have moments of Emerson Lake and Palmer.  Don't listen to the post who was criticising your stereo panning, I mix all my drums from the drummers perspective and I don't even play or use a real kit.  I think that when you listen to music that has a left hand drummer the mix actually works better, my belief is that has something to do with our brains and how we perceive things (OK this is just wild speculation)

Peace

Thanks Ben!   :)

I've always thought that just like the stereo panning of a piano, that drums should also match the left to right perspective of what the player hears.  Could you imagine playing a glissando on a Steinway or Bosendorfer grand piano sample that pans opposite of the direction your hand is moving?  Same applies with snare, toms and cymbals for me.

Repeating what I said regards lefty drummer, it was a jest, having listened to Glennbo's other contributions I am aware of his Preference for drummers perspective.  Also I observed and did not criticise the panning, what I said was that for me the whole tune was just a little too stereo meaning that the other instrument positions felt vague.
 
The in my original post indicated that I had listen to the end and had actually quite enjoyed it.
 
Glennbo posses an interesting point with regards panning, I do suspect that most people have sat behind a piano and done as Glennbo suggests and therefore the usually low left high right is the accepted norm.  However I also suspect that many listeners have not done the same with a full drum kit.
 
Personally I tend to pan parts from the perspective of an audience thats my personal choice and I encourage personal choice.
 
Finally the listening environment I listened to this tune which is my normal listening environment, before that gets a negative mention.
 
Event 20/20 passives on sand filled speaker stand.  The stands have spikes top and bottom giving high degree of room decoupling and separation.  The room also has a moderate level of sound control and bass trapping.  The Audio is sent out through Yamaha SW1000XG into a Yamaha 01v mixer onto the power amp.  The PC is not my primary DAW just one I use in the studio control room for such things as this.

Wookiee

Glennbo

BenMMusTech


Really good mix, I test all my mixes on cheap logitech computer speakers it generally means the mix will transfer.  Not my kind of music, which is strange because I love odd time signatures, it does have moments of Emerson Lake and Palmer.  Don't listen to the post who was criticising your stereo panning, I mix all my drums from the drummers perspective and I don't even play or use a real kit.  I think that when you listen to music that has a left hand drummer the mix actually works better, my belief is that has something to do with our brains and how we perceive things (OK this is just wild speculation)

Peace

Thanks Ben!   :)

I've always thought that just like the stereo panning of a piano, that drums should also match the left to right perspective of what the player hears.  Could you imagine playing a glissando on a Steinway or Bosendorfer grand piano sample that pans opposite of the direction your hand is moving?  Same applies with snare, toms and cymbals for me.

Repeating what I said regards lefty drummer, it was a jest, having listened to Glennbo's other contributions I am aware of his [color=#000000 size=2 editorid="ctl01_contentplaceholder1_ctl01_body"][canaddcustomcolors="true"][stripabsoluteimagespaths="false"][commoninternalparameters="u2tpblbhdggsrmfsc2usmcxmmupowkvodmjuunlimnh6tdbwa2fyunzjatluytjsdwn5ouvav1pozfd4me1qqxdoatg9"]Preference for drummers perspective.  Also I observed and did not criticise the panning, what I said was that for me the whole tune was just a little too stereo meaning that the other instrument positions felt vague.
 
The in my original post indicated that I had listen to the end and had actually quite enjoyed it.
 
Glennbo posses an interesting point with regards panning, I do suspect that most people have sat behind a piano and done as Glennbo suggests and therefore the usually low left high right is the accepted norm.  However I also suspect that many listeners have not done the same with a full drum kit.
 
Personally I tend to pan parts from the perspective of an audience thats my personal choice and I encourage personal choice.
 
Finally the listening environment I listened to this tune which is my normal listening environment, before that gets a negative mention.
 
Event 20/20 passives on sand filled speaker stand.  The stands have spikes top and bottom giving high degree of room decoupling and separation.  The room also has a moderate level of sound control and bass trapping.  The Audio is sent out through Yamaha SW1000XG into a Yamaha 01v mixer onto the power amp.  The PC is not my primary DAW just one I use in the studio control room for such things as this.

I didn't take your comment on panning in a negative way.  The way I usually decide where on the sound stage a particular part should sit is almost always governed by when I can hear the part with the most detail.  If I pan it a little more to the left or right and it sounds like it's fighting with some other instrument in that same zone, I'll move it around to what sounds like to me to be the spot with the least conflicting frequencies.   The bottom line is if a mix gels, then it doesn't matter what's panned where.  I mean, listen to some old Beatles records where stuff is panned 100% hard right and left.  They sound weird if you only play one side, but listening from the middle with both channels sounds pretty decent.

Glennbo

... listen to some old Beatles records where stuff is panned 100% hard right and left.  They sound weird if you only play one side, but listening from the middle with both channels sounds pretty decent.

You are 100% right on this. Some of the Beatles music even pans the bass hard one way or the other and everything I've ever read said this is a no no. I think I'll take advice from George Martin and The Beatles on this subject.

Bub


This is great Glennbo. If I were to be picky, the mix seems a little heavy on the low-mids but hardly enough to mention.

The drums sound great! I may have to break down and get Superior Drummer ... I haven't heard a bad recording of it yet.

Thanks Bub!   :)

I am a HUGE fan of Superior Drummer 2.  It tracks what I play on my pad kit extremely well, and the ability to dink around with bleed on each mic, as well as multiple distances of the rooms the drums were recorded in makes it such that you can really dial in a natural sound.  I've actually had drummer friends say to me "you're using real drums on this one, right?", to which I chuckle a bit and tell them "nope, those are fake drums!"    <g>

Great sound and I can't believe you put it together in one day.  I do, however, relate to 'having fun globbing more stuff on.'  lol

theguitarplayer


Glennbo, You always seem to amaze me with your sound. This is totally awesome and a great sound for sure. Great production with a gret sound. Loved it.

Blessings, John

Thanks John!   :)

It was fun playing all the parts!  

Playing lots of instruments hands on and sharing the result is what drives me to put this stuff together.

chasmcg


Very good. Production, instruments, et.al.

Thanks Chas!   :)

Janet


I applaud you for scraping away.  I find that SO hard to do.... lol

Hehe, thanks!  I guess I got over being a pack rat musically, and am no longer worried about tossing some part I took the time to play and record out of the song.  I used to keep the parts and just mute the track or clip, but now I hit delete and don't look back.   ;)