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Re:New Drip Electronics La2a Build Thread... 2010/06/19 09:19:05 (permalink)
Yeah Mike the smile I had was related to ordering carbon units and receiving metal film which was kinda like a funny joke with respect to the differences discussed frequently regarding them both. The supplier may have been reading the various threads and had a giggle to himself when picking them. Maybe... I've got a small draw here too full of them but none were accurate enough or the right values I needed.... apart from two.

No probs Millzy.. I wanna get the unit finished before offloading them that's for sure. And given the current flat out work status and new pending band... it's gonna take a little longer than planned. Also the 700R has arrived and is waiting patiently!! Need to get home early enough to get some tune time.

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Re:New Drip Electronics La2a Build Thread... 2010/06/20 08:33:55 (permalink)
Update: tonight I got a bunch of bits loaded on the board. Need to source the 7 pin ceramic PCB mount valve socket + the two for the T4Bs, the Alps pot and decide on which VU to use. Did a rear panel layout too to get ready for fitting that off. The output tranny I have is not shielded which should be fine but might try and source a can to cover it.

If you are in Oztralia, WES Components have a lot of the hard to source parts like Sprague caps and carbon resistors. They also have the filtered IEC jack really cheap. You need to create an account with them and they are excellent.. very quick.

...moving forward at last. Got distracted by plugging in the new 700R ready for setup. NEED TIME.

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Re:New Drip Electronics La2a Build Thread... 2010/06/20 09:19:12 (permalink)
I am starting to feel the urge to solder!!!

I've been staring at the schematic and the point to point layout and thinking about the mods required to use easier to find parts.

Which brings to this question... any idea what to do with the "parallel" stereo connector?


post edited by mike_mccue - 2010/06/20 09:20:21


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Re:New Drip Electronics La2a Build Thread... 2010/06/20 14:54:40 (permalink)
I used a JLM meter on mine. It wants slightly more juice for the backlight than the LA-2A board provides, so the meter is a little lower in level, but that's not a bad thing. And it's half the price of some of the high endy ones that are often spec'd on those projects.

http://jlmaudio.com/shop/index.php?_a=viewProd&productId=21
On a 3U device, you've got plenty of room for  a big meter you can see from the other side of the room.

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Re:New Drip Electronics La2a Build Thread... 2010/06/21 09:04:51 (permalink)
Interesting Mike... I started looking at it in detail and said to myself "Self, that's why you went with the Drip option... remember? Less pain and more mixing." and then I promptly looked away before diving into this all consuming vortex.
Did I mention it's fairly easy to pick up or order parts from the Drip BOM? These challenges suck me in very easily... delete it I say.

Hey Dean thanks... the larger unit advantage is valid and I have two of these on the shelf from the 1/2 completed VU meter project (got VU's on the EQ for room tuning now).... will run with it. Did you ever post any pix of your complete unit?

..just got home (1030pm) and have a new bag of bits bought today.... keen to get out to shed but have early start tomorrow..... DANGIT! Need to retire NOW!

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Re:New Drip Electronics La2a Build Thread... 2010/06/21 18:48:25 (permalink)
Mully,
 That PCB looks confusing to my mind...  the point to point on the

http://www.recproaudio.co...io/teletronix_la2a.htm



website seems more like a language I can handle.

:-)

dean, The JLM meter selection looks like a nice choice.


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Re:New Drip Electronics La2a Build Thread... 2010/06/21 19:59:44 (permalink)
mike_mccue


I am starting to feel the urge to solder!!! 


Me too! Will you boys stop it!


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Re:New Drip Electronics La2a Build Thread... 2010/06/22 07:23:37 (permalink)
Mike that p2p layout nearly made me go that way to be honest because the hard yards are done. It's quite a simple build that way and you can save a lot space too... problem with the Drip board is that it is so simple to load and you get the option of 2 cells that are switchable which I can see that being quite useful... err, plus once I pulled the trigger on a board of that cost, I know I will actually achieve 100% completion.

Got home early tonight so will get some more soldering done now... keen.

Jump on board Millzy!!!

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Re:New Drip Electronics La2a Build Thread... 2010/10/17 09:09:31 (permalink)
Whoah... at last it's back on!

We started a new business and the past few months have been very un-audio friendly... broke up the band, joined a new band, quit that new band... all while building a new business.... crazy times.

ANYWAY.. the DRIP project is nearly complete (at last). The board is loaded and mounted and tonight I actually engraved the front panel with "LA2A OPTO4" above the meter and it looks sweet! Did I mention I also setup a new CNC machine and now have the ability to engrave? ... and it makes the metal work a breeze.

Alright... it's close now so will get this back on track.

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Re:New Drip Electronics La2a Build Thread... 2010/10/17 21:29:49 (permalink)
Wondered where you disappeared to! Good to hear the project is on the move again.

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Re:New Drip Electronics La2a Build Thread... 2010/10/18 08:21:02 (permalink)
Keep us posted... I am itching to start this project.


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Re:New Drip Electronics La2a Build Thread... 2010/10/18 09:12:17 (permalink)
Sure thing.... I'm actually stoked with the engraving as it was holding up the final build. Just deciding on whether or not to continue with the front engraving for everything or engrave labels and stick them on... gee, what a tuff decision.

I worked late tonight so tomorrow hope to finish the front panel one way or the other and maybe get the rear panel milled and then it is GO time for final assembly. I've got everything needed sitting ready to bolt in and solder up.

Last night I got bogged down upgrading the firmware and drivers on the V-Studio gear which stole Drip time.

Be in touch with more news and photos soon!

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Re:New Drip Electronics La2a Build Thread... 2010/10/19 10:21:01 (permalink)
Ok some piccies...


 
Panel still on the CNC.


Shot of the engraving.


Another attempt at a decent photo using a mobile phone. Fail.


Another front panel view with things getting loaded .
VU meter is the JLM one but photo is rubbish and you can't see any detail.

Overall the front panel is near complete with just pots and a few switches to mount up. Next job will be to mill the rear panel and load it up with all the bits. My transformers are mounting external and not on the pcb and will go on the rear panel as well.

Getting close now and I'm KEEN to get this beast up and running.

Cheers.
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Re:New Drip Electronics La2a Build Thread... 2010/10/19 20:30:16 (permalink)
NICE!!!!


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Re:New Drip Electronics La2a Build Thread... 2010/10/20 20:40:40 (permalink)
Thanks Mike!

Latest update... last night the front panel was finished up with respect to loading and is now mounted to the bottom case panel and looking FINE! Man it looks close now... did however realize that I was one capacitor short due to recent hiatus so have last night also ordered the final orange drop cap... 8A or 8B on the board. One of them....

Had ordered high quality pots for the gain and peak but have dumped them in favor of larger ones with spline shafts for the Telecaster style knobs I'm using at present. The knurled chrome looks great I reckon and we've seen enough chicken heads in my shed.. for a little while anyway. Plus I'm not a hug fan of the 'traditional' oversize knobs on the original LA2A units.

Will finalize rear panel G code and get it milled up. Have also decided, for those interested, that it is just quicker to use the CNC to mark the hole locations and just drill them on the drill press. A lot quicker given the size of my CNC which really copes up to about a 3mm end mill. The XLR mounting holes though would still be quicker (and accurate) using the CNC however.

CLOSE NOW!
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Re:New Drip Electronics La2a Build Thread... 2010/10/21 19:49:27 (permalink)
Latest mobile phone dodgy photo from last night with the panel at least mounted....



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Re:New Drip Electronics La2a Build Thread... 2010/10/22 08:21:42 (permalink)
keep it coming!


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Re:New Drip Electronics La2a Build Thread... 2010/10/25 18:05:19 (permalink)
So how does she sound, how does she sound!!!???

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Re:New Drip Electronics La2a Build Thread... 2010/10/26 22:49:21 (permalink)
...VERY quiet... alas the last capacitor hasn't arrived yet and I stare longingly at her each night...

SO keen.

Must be doing my head in because we are looking at moving house and the new studio planned is making we salivate... but I digress.

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Re:New Drip Electronics La2a Build Thread... 2010/10/27 19:48:26 (permalink)
Hi Mully,
 I was reading up again about the DIY LA2a.

 What is the latest choice for getting the T4  or equal modules?

 Is there any place where people are discussing those choices?

thanks,
mike


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Re:New Drip Electronics La2a Build Thread... 2010/10/27 22:20:49 (permalink)
If you do the Drip one as he is (and as I did), then that's one of the things you get from Drip.

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Re:New Drip Electronics La2a Build Thread... 2010/10/28 06:49:29 (permalink)
Hi Mike.. yep, as Droddey says, Drip have the two options available which is what I went for.

Update: missing cap arrived today... sweet!

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Re:New Drip Electronics La2a Build Thread... 2010/10/28 07:08:42 (permalink)
Thanks to both of you.

It seems that this miht be the only practical option... It looks like the NOS stuff is already used up.

I'm still interested in the hard wired type construction so I'll look at what Drip offers... I hope it has a similar form factor to the T4.

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Re:New Drip Electronics La2a Build Thread... 2010/11/04 19:49:10 (permalink)
Hey Mike the Drip T4 is pretty sturdy looking being enclosed in a hard black plastic case. You could drop it on concrete and it shouldn't break... just don't 'throw' it at the concrete.

It's easy to mount using on board sockets and is a good solid solution I believe. I bought both the fast and slow T4 units from Drip. The NOS are getting rarer plus they are a lot more expensive as well every time I looked around.

Hard wired would still be great for sure. Possibly quicker too although it has it's own things to get right obviously.

We're in the throes of buying a new house which is interfering with project time but last night I got 95% of the front panel connected up. I've reversed the PCB in the rack case too to get the majority of the cable runs shorter in length. I'm sure I won't see any benefit and I need to ensure correct paths for the mains related runs etc but I thought 'may as well'.

My unit is quite close to being finished now and I hope to get more time in the shed this weekend.. fingers crossed. Got a new mobile rack so the Drip unit has a space waiting.

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Re:New Drip Electronics La2a Build Thread... 2010/11/05 07:14:48 (permalink)
Thanks again,

I am enjoying the updates.

Good luck with the house buying... I hope it goes smoothly.

best,
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Re:New Drip Electronics La2a Build Thread... 2010/11/07 02:21:01 (permalink)
Thanks Mike.... house buying involves a nice size acreage so hoping it goes really well... very cool new studio proposed.

Latest pic from last night attached.... got a lot done but it is slow going in between everything else as well as laboring over cable paths and preferred things like the meter zero for example. Couldn't source easily the lockable zero adjust so will prolly do a variation to the 'theme' which will be in a subsequent piccy.


Work in progress now sides are on.


Rack space is ready for the Drip Tone Beast! Oops.... might be a little too big a space...oh yeah, air flow would be good.


Cabling is underway.....

Got more piccies, will see what is worth uploading...

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Re:New Drip Electronics La2a Build Thread... 2010/11/07 07:20:34 (permalink)
That's super Mully.

I actually live on a 4 acre out parcel in a National Forest.

It is incredibly quiet out here... unless I have an amp turned up to "10".

And the beauty of it is that there is no one to complain.

I can never live in a high density situation again... I'm too used to being able to make sounds.

It seems like you are almost done with your LA2A. :-)

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Re:New Drip Electronics La2a Build Thread... 2010/11/07 08:24:06 (permalink)
Thanks Mike.... we're looking at 17.2 acres so I'm fairly hyped about it all. Shopping for a hobby size tractor and all! Feel what you say re high density alright.... I'm originally from country and keen to return.

As for the Drip... Got the rear panel all drilled, Dremeled and mounted tonight. Only have some more cable hook ups (once I sort out power and input tranny colors) and then finalize the meter zero 'solution'.

Planning on power up minus valves and T4 units.... Check B+ voltage and other misc assuming no smoke escapes. If all good then will insert valves and do another smoke test. All still good then, I'll go for T4 insertions and plan to rack her up.

Prolly a coupla nights before I can get back out but we are near now! .... finally.

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Re:New Drip Electronics La2a Build Thread... 2010/11/07 08:46:07 (permalink)
17 acres... that's a lot to take care of :-)

I feel lucky that for all intents and purposes I am surrounded by over 500,000 acres of forest that some one else takes care of. :-)

You posts about he LA2A are an inspiration. I hope it fires right up with no issues!

best,
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Re:New Drip Electronics La2a Build Thread... 2010/11/07 13:43:15 (permalink)
I just wouldn't stress about the zero adjust. Mine hasn't budged a millimeter since I built it and it's not like it's a problem even if you should accidentally nudge it while behind the unit. A quick twist and it's back right. But, I've never even used mine other than during the initial setup.

My 1176 of course has an internal zero adjust, but it also has never budged in the slightest either, so I've never had to use it. And it's not like it can move and you won't know it. When it's on GR mode, you'll see instantly if it's not right because it won't be on zero. So it's just not worth worrying about. Throw a pot back there and be happy.
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