DroopyPawn
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New Fatar Controller - Sustain Pedal Problem
UPS delivered my Musician's Friend order today. One brand new StudioLogic SL-990-XP. 88 key hammer action controller. Nice axe.
Now I'm not a keyboard player but I did take one semester of piano in college and I have a thorough background in music theory. My fingers will learn to play what my brain is hearing eventually.
But I'm having a problem with my sustain pedal. MPM Music PS 15 Sustain Pedal. When I stomp on the pedal, the keyboard is dampened. When I let the pedal up, it is sustained. Isn't this exactly opposite of what it should be? On the pedal's box it says "Normally closed switch". Should I get one that's "nomally open"?
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RE: New Fatar Controller - Sustain Pedal Problem
2005/11/19 09:19:25
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I have the SL-880 and the manual says that the keyboard should work with both types of pedals and that when you power it on, it senses the footpedal type. Obviously, the footpedal has to be plugged in when you turn it on. Check your manual to see if the SL-990 behaves the same way. It should.
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RE: New Fatar Controller - Sustain Pedal Problem
2005/11/19 09:47:44
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the polarity is reversed. It either automatically switches on start up, like a Korg keyboard under global/controls you can reverse the polarity to be like a Yamaha, or the pedal you got is not compatible. But I can't imagine a controller these days not giving you the option
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DroopyPawn
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RE: New Fatar Controller - Sustain Pedal Problem
2005/11/19 11:46:26
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My manual is only 2 pages and doesn't mention the sustain pedal but you're probably right. I'll try it out.
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DroopyPawn
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RE: New Fatar Controller - Sustain Pedal Problem
2005/11/20 10:21:21
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I plan to try this same pedal on my Roland SPD-6 drum controller. I suspect that it might work on the hi-hat.
But I was going through my drum samples and I have one set with several different states of "openness" on the hi-hats - from really closed to all the way open to several hits that are "open a little" to "open a lot". About 10 different sounds all together on 10 consecutive black keys (on a midi keyboard).
Any suggestions on how to use these notes from a controller. I know I could just play them on the keyboard but I'd rather do it on a drum controller and use a pedal of some kind. Just not sure how to so do that or if it's even possible.
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ebinary
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RE: New Fatar Controller - Sustain Pedal Problem
2005/11/20 12:18:06
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ORIGINAL: DroopyPawn
UPS delivered my Musician's Friend order today. One brand new StudioLogic SL-990-XP. 88 key hammer action controller. Nice axe.
I am looking for an inexpensive 88-key weighted keyboard that is suitable for chopping down to 60-76 keys. If you ever get the urge to open yours up, I'm curious if there are octave modules with ribbon connectors that could be disconnected and tossed. Eric
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DroopyPawn
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RE: New Fatar Controller - Sustain Pedal Problem
2005/11/21 10:11:06
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2 years ago. I had a house fire. My Fatar keyboard was in the living room (where there was just smoke) and it got hot. Doesn't work anymore but it may be a good keyboard for your project. It was leaning against the wall and only the upper end got much smoke on it. I had a kid at school clean it up. Told him if he could make it work, he could have it. Nothing is melted on the outside. All the keys are fine. The hammer action is still great. It just doesn't power up. I imagine that one of the circuit boards on the inside got a little warped or something like that. Make me an offer if you're interested. The keyboard is down at the church so I'll have to go see which model it was. I think it was a Studio 2001. It was one of the Fatar keyboards that's built into its own flight case.
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ebinary
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RE: New Fatar Controller - Sustain Pedal Problem
2005/11/25 15:28:19
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was just smoke) and it got hot. Doesn't work anymore but it may be a good keyboard for your project. It was leaning against the wall and only the upper end got much smoke on it. I had a kid at school clean it up. Told him if he could make it work, he could have it. Nothing is melted on the outside. All the keys are fine. The hammer action is still great. It just doesn't power up. I imagine that one of the circuit boards on the inside got a little warped or something like that. Make me an offer if you're interested. The keyboard is down at the church so I'll have to go see which model it was. I think it was a Studio 2001. It was one of the Fatar keyboards that's built into its own flight case. Thanks for thinking of me, but I doubt I can repair a melted circuit board. Wish I could! Eric
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DroopyPawn
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RE: New Fatar Controller - Sustain Pedal Problem
2005/11/25 16:53:23
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Ok. I thought you just wanted the hammer action keys.
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RE: New Fatar Controller - Sustain Pedal Problem
2005/11/25 17:16:58
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I plan to try this same pedal on my Roland SPD-6 drum controller. I suspect that it might work on the hi-hat.
But I was going through my drum samples and I have one set with several different states of "openness" on the hi-hats - from really closed to all the way open to several hits that are "open a little" to "open a lot". About 10 different sounds all together on 10 consecutive black keys (on a midi keyboard).
Any suggestions on how to use these notes from a controller. I know I could just play them on the keyboard but I'd rather do it on a drum controller and use a pedal of some kind. Just not sure how to so do that or if it's even possible.
Just using an expression controller will make it possible to select openness on hihats. Usually there is a midi CC (often CC 4) that drives this. So just using the keyboard, hands and expression with foot you can get it going by mapping these different openness on the same midi key and expression is choosing which one is sounding. In my case I'm using a Yamaha DD-55 drumpad module to trigger a sampler in Sonar. I also got a kickpad KP65 and a regular kickpedal to it. Alltogether with expression controller for hihat control you have something very close to a real drumkit on the corner of a table.
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losguy
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RE: New Fatar Controller - Sustain Pedal Problem
2005/11/25 17:24:33
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ORIGINAL: lfm
Just using an expression controller will make it possible to select openness on hihats. Usually there is a midi CC (often CC 4) that drives this.
Wouldn't this depend heavily on the sample set and sampler being used? It's not a global standard is it? Or are you talking about GM?
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RE: New Fatar Controller - Sustain Pedal Problem
2005/11/25 17:27:51
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I am looking for an inexpensive 88-key weighted keyboard that is suitable for chopping down to 60-76 keys. If you ever get the urge to open yours up, I'm curious if there are octave modules with ribbon connectors that could be disconnected and tossed.
Yikes! Do you have some sort of strict length limit? Why not just grit your teeth (sorta like your avatar) and leave it at 88? Not criticizing, of course, just painfully curious...
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RE: New Fatar Controller - Sustain Pedal Problem
2005/11/25 17:43:12
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I have a similar pedal and mine has a little switch on the bottom that reverses it.
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losguy
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RE: New Fatar Controller - Sustain Pedal Problem
2005/11/25 17:47:48
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My manual is only 2 pages and doesn't mention the sustain pedal but you're probably right. I'll try it out.
If the Fatar indeed has this auto-detect feature, then just make sure not to have your foot on the pedal when you're powering the Fatar up. Edit: Sounds dumb, I know, but sometimes it's the simple, stupid things that trip us up.
post edited by losguy - 2005/11/25 17:49:11
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ebinary
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RE: New Fatar Controller - Sustain Pedal Problem
2005/11/27 03:20:12
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ORIGINAL: losguy
ORIGINAL: ebinary
I am looking for an inexpensive 88-key weighted keyboard that is suitable for chopping down to 60-76 keys. If you ever get the urge to open yours up, I'm curious if there are octave modules with ribbon connectors that could be disconnected and tossed.
Yikes! Do you have some sort of strict length limit?
Yeah, playing with 3 others guys on small stages. Bass is my main performing instrument these days, so my keyboard is mostly taking up room on stage. But even after decades of playing synth keyboards, I don't enjoy playing piano on a synth keyboard. I just can't believe NO ONE sells a hammer action 61 or 76 key keyboard. Someone finally entered this market (can't recall who) a few months ago with a freaking 49 key model (but still no 61 or 76 key model). Insane! Eric
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