Ham N Egz
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Ham N Egz
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Re: New Finale Version!!
2016/07/25 20:47:32
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nobody cares about notation and scoring software I see
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BobF
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Re: New Finale Version!!
2016/07/25 21:36:29
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I kind of do. I have Notion 5 and MuseScore. Been watching Overture 5.
I did a Finale trial 2 or 3 years ago and didn't get along with it very well.
I only do occassional lead sheets and Notion is pretty quick with that.
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kitekrazy1
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Re: New Finale Version!!
2016/07/26 11:58:22
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Ham N Egz
nobody cares about notation and scoring software I see
LOL, since who needs it when they have Sonar. (sarcasm) I hardly use notation software anymore even though I got the Notion upgrade. This upcoming version of Finale I will most likely buy if they don't jack up the price. It will also convert PDF to score.
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Re: New Finale Version!!
2016/07/26 16:47:21
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I found myself having to learn Finale last year because of a book of guitar transcriptions I was collaborating on. I have to say I really did not get along with it. I bought a Finale tutorial book which got rave reviews on Amazon and also watched the Lynda.com course. Throughout these lessons my most frequent thought was "Wow, what a convoluted way of doing that." I've never used any other notation software so I don't know how it measures up to something like Sibelius, but I was not impressed. I also didn't like how it forced me to run my interface at 44.1kHz instead of my usual 48kHz. Having said that, the version I have is 2012 (Got it cheap sometime in 2013 but didn't start tackling it for ages) so perhaps it's come on in leaps and bounds since then. I'm not holding my breath though because it just seemed to me that the fundamental design philosophy behind it didn't gel with me.
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Re: New Finale Version!!
2016/07/26 19:00:38
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I find it a waste of time to use traditional note editors for guitar. They work fine for violas, trumpets, and flutes. There is software specifically for guitar. Power Tab Editor is free. I like Arobus Music Guitar Pro 6.
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Re: New Finale Version!!
2016/07/26 19:58:02
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And there's Notion's little sister, Progression.
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Re: New Finale Version!!
2016/07/27 19:17:39
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kitekrazy1
I find it a waste of time to use traditional note editors for guitar. They work fine for violas, trumpets, and flutes. There is software specifically for guitar. Power Tab Editor is free. I like Arobus Music Guitar Pro 6.
Finale has a tab editor built in. And the book I was collaborating on required both tab and standard notation. It's pretty full featured for guitar transcriptions, I just didn't like the workflow.
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Re: New Finale Version!!
2016/08/01 15:38:56
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Lots of new features for the new version, now just called Finale. 64bit and Rewire support to put it inside of Sonar, to name a few.
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Re: New Finale Version!!
2016/08/01 16:01:59
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any scoring software is convoluted, difficult and cumbersome. that's because scoring is convoluted, difficult and cumbersome. Notion is great, Finale is great, not used Sibelius but i'm sure that is also good.
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kitekrazy1
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Re: New Finale Version!!
2016/08/01 22:28:57
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mgh
any scoring software is convoluted, difficult and cumbersome. that's because scoring is convoluted, difficult and cumbersome. Notion is great, Finale is great, not used Sibelius but i'm sure that is also good.
Check out Lilipond. It's free and cumbersome but it is more of a publishing tool.
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1ManMusic
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Re: New Finale Version!!
2016/08/09 11:58:07
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Hey! I have used Cakewalk software since about 2000 (maybe before). I think my first product was Music Creator. I bought it as a notation editor, as it was then self-described, but found it very "cumbersome" and unfriendly. Since I have never been a keyboardist, and I was actually asking God if maybe music was something that was too "cumbersome" for His agenda for my life and that I should therefore lay down. This was after a review of all of my experiences in my then 26 years of active pursuit. I think you can guess the answer. At the time, however, I wrote maybe four pieces (I was only then starting to get original compositional ideas). The difficulty with the Cakewalk notation editor was discouraging.Somehow, I stumbled over a discussion, maybe in the archives here, where someone posted a comment saying that Cakewalk was not (any longer) selling its products as notation editors, but as music recording and production software. This set me out to search for an alternative that I could afford. I had seen the price points for Finale and some other packages. They were just unattainable for this unknown artist. I did not know about open source software, although when I did later I tried a few different free notation editors, and found them to be aspiring clones of Finale et als, with all of the frustration and difficulty. Then I found this $49.95 solution called Noteworthy. It came with a thirty-day fully functional, even save-able, free trial. I was awed by how fast an idea could be taken from idea to score! I had not even returned to Rutgers to finish what would be a B.A. in Music, so my reading and notation skills were "with difficulty." It is so simple to place notes, change them, add chord notes, change values, add sharps, insert rests, slurs and other diacritics. And when I get it to where I think I am ready (I write the percussion tracks as well), I can export the piece to Midi and dress it up in Sonar. I perform using the CD-quality results as my band. It is like the Continental. It does what you want it to do! I have since been able to notate hundreds of complete and partial songs.
I got in trouble with my favorite professor at Rutgers, or at least really annoyed him. He was with Finale from the floppy disk days - literally. The textbook we used included an offer for a discount on Finale that resulted in $100 off a $600 price tag, or some other barely significant discount. He encouraged students to take advantage of this. Many did. I found a free trial to the version most like Noteworthy. At the time I think the price for this version was $149. I saw how difficult and non-intuitive Finale was. To me it was no better than trying to compose in the Sonar notes editor. Needless to say, I have closed the door on the matter of which notation software I use. Where I got in trouble was when he would give us an analysis or counterpoint exercise and tell how to do it in Finale. I would with my big mouth feel compelled to say aloud something to the effect of "oh! That is so much easier in Noteworthy!" In a grad school program that I attempted, other students would sneer at me, until they heard a final project in a class in its post-Sonar version. Eventually, I started getting questions about "that software" and the price and website. Unfortunately, I could not help my IOS brethren.
The best way to describe it is to imagine being able to use Microsoft Word to compose and edit your work. There are very few Windows keyboard commands that do other things than what they do in Windows (e.g. Ctrl+A starts a new staff rather than copies all). However, even these are covered by menu commands. For ultimate control of your work, you want to get into notation. Unlike the "elite" and "professional" software that I have seen and heard here and elsewhere, Noteworthy, at $69.95 USD makes it easy.Don't take my word for it. Check it out. https://noteworthycomposer.com/ Oh yes. Please note that I have nothing to do with the software publisher other than being very happy with their product. I am a real artist, receiving no premiums or discounts or any other valuable consideration, sharing something that has transformed my composing experience.
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eph221
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Re: New Finale Version!!
2016/08/09 13:50:07
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I was just using Pro Tools score editor. It's a breeze now.
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