John


I think the Sonar forum is filled will good long time members like yourself Billy. There are a lot of members that have been here since day one and have tried to be helpful at the same time learning Sonar. It is that combo that I believe allows for the interaction between those that really know Sonar and those trying to learn it keep going. Few newbies are going to debate sample rate on the first few postings or discuss the various pro and cons of a particular recording techniques in detail. Or relate an experience in recording that has proved useful to them.

Without that mix in the forum one or the other is going to suffer. Then I don't really see it as changing behavior. I know that when I open a new forum I could care less about the 'training wheels" section. I want to know what the guts are and what the "big boys" think about things. I sure don't want be in with people that are as clueless as I am.

None the less I hope this turns out to work. I do think its going to be an up hill battle to get the long term members to be here though. After all its going to take a conscious effort to come here for old timers to fraternize with newbies. 

We shall see how it goes.    

Russell.Whaley

bsacco



I had to buy some lame ass video DYI for Sonar that fetaured a Scottish guy with an accent so thick it was like listening to Austin Powers' Fat Bastard... Not User friendly at all..

Gently, dude, please.  That would be Stuart, goes by the name Syrath here on the forums.  He's a very knowledgeable guy who happens to be from Scotland... and has helped a bunch of us here at one time or another.
 
I'm not saying you shouldn't be able to voice an opinion... just that a soft touch usually goes a lot farther.
 

Brandon Ryan [Cakewalk
]

We'll have a SONAR: Master Class video available this week which will lilely spawn some SONAR: Go Deeper videos as well.

itsmeRG


TWO CENTS ...

For me, the hardest part about learning the Sonar record methods was that version after version after version of Sonar has video after video after video of people demonstrating midi, Boost 11, mixing, drum software etc and not "recording"!

Everyone I know plays in bands with amps and drums and vocals and needs to set up and record just like it's a tape machine. That is FIRST, but ever since we entered the digital world, those basics have been less than front and center.

Here is one example; with any basic tape machine I've used, I'd press record and play to record. Easy!   

With any multi track tape machine I've used, I'd make the connections, arm the track and press record and play to record. Easy!

When I moved to digital with a Roland VS2000CD, the manual was not in a user friendly sequence, but after I learned how to make the connections and arm the track, I'd press record and play to record.

When I moved to Sonar, I was baffled on the first recording day because I'd read about how to set the interface, make an audio track and select inputs, but I'd arm the track, see that record was red and press play. I did that over and over, not understanding why I could see the signal but it would not record. I backtracked all of my connection choices. I searched youtube and the manual for more info on basic recording, on recording with a mic etc. and finally read the manual's troubleshooting page where it says "make sure that you are pressing the record button and NOT PLAY". Problem solved! There's a new, secondary record button!

The tape machine crowd is still alive, so it may be a good idea to make a video from a tape recorder perspective. Beyond the frustrating part of getting past "how to record a live signal", I've found a lot of the Sonar 8.5 software to be pretty self explanatory, even for someone from the analog world! The plug ins follow hardware designs and logic, which is nice. The sound quality and options are very impressive.
 
It might be a good idea to bring in some people who know a little about analog recording, but may be intimidated by all of the new technology and find out what they need to know to get up and running and put that in a video AND the BEGINNING of the manual. I think it would help attract new Sonar users, including ones who never recorded at all but may be interested. It would be helpful to newcomers and could be a great marketing tool.

Your link is fine, just like it is. I'm looking for help - newbie help - and your link was right there for me to find when I logged in here.
 
Thanks. Good lookin' out.
 
Don
 
Brandon Ryan [Cakewalk
]

I agree when looking at the entire forum list, it is a little hard to notice. Though when looking at SONAR forum itself it's big and bold and up top...very hard to miss.

I just wanted to get something started in order to help newbs and grizzled old vets alike. We'll tweak the organization.