New Learning Piano to Purchase

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2011/07/17 23:16:13 (permalink)

New Learning Piano to Purchase

Already know what to do as far as the computer requirements as far as running Sonar 8 PE which I have down and have the EMU 1616m to record with.

My question is on buying a new keyboard to learn and practice on.

A friend of mine has a Casio LK-90 model keyboard that I could borrow at anytime, and while nice I would like to look into something to buy for myself that I can learn to not only play, but to compose music with it as well. 

First off, my budget for a starter piano will be $500. I would like a good keyboard that has a MIDI controller built in (or would I need to buy one separately?) Most likely I will teach myself to play the piano, but down the line would also like to do synths and incorporate other instruments to make good music. I think most of it can be done in Sonar, but need to read more about it. 
 
I know most studios have two or more keyboards and have read some differences between weighted and unweighted keys, but since I have never really played piano before I don't have any experience as far as the feel and such. 

Seems like a very basic question, but have to start from somewhere. 

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    John6528
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    Re:New Learning Piano to Purchase 2011/07/18 00:16:47 (permalink)
    I use a Yamaha p-70 and a Casio CDP-100. Both have great touch and midi in/out which is all I'm looking for. Both under $500.

    Neither has midi controller nor particularly good sound but I run them through the computer for that. Use them for composing/arranging/practicing.

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    Re:New Learning Piano to Purchase 2011/07/18 08:49:07 (permalink)
    to learn piano you should get a digital piano - weighted 88 keys.  with a budget of $500, I recommend either of the following
    http://www.musiciansfriend.com/keyboards-midi/casio-privia-px130-88-key-digital-keyboard

    http://www.musiciansfriend.com/keyboards-midi/casio-cdp-100-88-note-weighted-hammer-action-digital-piano

    you won't need a separate MIDI controller as either of these (and most digital pianos also) have MIDI I/O as well.

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    Re:New Learning Piano to Purchase 2011/07/18 11:39:03 (permalink)
    Above advice is excellent. If it's Piano and not keyboard / synth your after it's best to purchase one that "feels" like a real piano. Piano teachers hate it when families cheap out and purchase a wimpy action-ed keyboard for the student. The student then struggles with the action of the grand piano when doing their exams. A big part of playing a piano is how you express yourself with dynamics and feel.

    I had a music store and used to sell Casio, Roland and Yamaha Keyboards and pianos.
    A full sized weighted digital Piano from Roland or Yamaha started at $1,800, I sold a few at $3,000. I liked pianos a lot! ;) Casio even then were a little less money. The good news is these prices have come way down with models of Yamaha and Casio selling at Costco for around $500. Roland has not followed the market down to the same degree. But the modern pianos, they seem to be the same units to me with even more gizmos added.
    I also have had the privilege of repairing them so I got to see what was inside. A lot of plastic, some rubber switches and tiny cheap looking springs. So I guess it's the sound generating technology that they are discounting these days, like back then you payed $1,400 dollars for a MIDI box that did what all PC's will do with MS wave table now.
    I too have been kicking the tires as I want one in the house for my grandchildren. I can play a little bit so would enjoy something other than my collection of synths and controllers.
    My focus has been on those same 3 brands which I trust. There are others but that's the big 3. 
    All 3 come with basically the same features so I guess it's a matter of
    weighing the benefits. 
    I like the feel of the Yamaha's best.
    I like the Sound of the Roland by far
    I like the price of the Casio

    Also a word of advice. If you ever plan on using one live on stage, make sure it has proper output jacks. Roland has the best system with both in/out 1/4" jacks. Casio sometimes has the outputs but some models don't.  Worst is only have the headphone jack which will also kill the speakers. So for this reason I am looking at the Roland.
    The keyboard player in my band uses a Roland EP 7 ( 1995?) and she uses the input jacks to run a Korg 0w5 Module which is for synth and organ sound. She can hear it in the pianos speakers which are all she ever needs for stage monitors and this makes for only one patch cable to the PA. For bigger gigs she can use the other output to a keyboard amp.
    The Ep7  speakers face up, most are underneath firing down so are muffled if you have carpeting.
    That's all I know about digital Pianos, hope it enlightened. 
    post edited by Cactus Music - 2011/07/18 11:44:14

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