New MOTU Ultralite AVB Driver Released.

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2017/06/22 00:37:50 (permalink)

New MOTU Ultralite AVB Driver Released.

http://www.motu.com/avb/index.html#avb-download-additional-resources
 
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    jbraner
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    Re: New MOTU Ultralite AVB Driver Released. 2017/06/23 20:34:07 (permalink)
    Thanks for the heads up ;-)

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    I usually use ASIO set at 64 or 128 samples
    er - that's it I think...
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    Re: New MOTU Ultralite AVB Driver Released. 2017/06/24 08:47:59 (permalink)
    Driver installed and performance even better than before ... I now can use AD2 with e-drums at a stunning RTL of 1.7 ms!!!

    Things to be aware of:
    - firmware upgrade required
    - the zipped installer at the AVB download contained the previous driver by mistake. You need to check the version number after unzipping prior to installing. Downloads from the location for each device were OK
    - MOTU apparently added additional internal safety buffers which confused me big time since Sonar reports higher latency at the same settings you used before
    - hence you need to check your optimal buffer settings again ... smallest workable buffers are probably lower than before, giving you overall lower latency than before

    Overall performance was once again improved. Stable 1.7 ms RTL when using AD2 with lightweight FX inside Sonar, 2.7 ms when using Kontakt which apparently iw less efficient, both played from e-drum kit in real time ... now this blows RME out of the water for audio via USB2


    Mixes including some heavy weight FX like WAVES AR Plates also work at lower settings than before.

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    Re: New MOTU Ultralite AVB Driver Released. 2017/06/24 19:20:39 (permalink)
    Thanks for the heads UP Rob, especially re: the wrong file in the download ;-)

    I was getting better performance too, then everything started to freak out a little. I'm sure it's unrelated, but SONAR started barfing over one of my plugins - in a few projects. It was crashing when trying to load them. Because of this,the audio started to go wonky on a few songs - I would change the AVB settings (via Web interface), then change them back again to the same setting and then it was fine.

    I've gone back to the older driver. I'll make sure SONAR is happy, then try the new driver again...

    John Braner
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    I usually use ASIO set at 64 or 128 samples
    er - that's it I think...
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    Re: New MOTU Ultralite AVB Driver Released. 2017/06/24 23:51:15 (permalink)
    I just ordered one of these from Sweetwater.  Actually, I purchased it at Gearfest but its backordered.  I am hoping it comes with the latest firmware already installed.

    Dave
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    Re: New MOTU Ultralite AVB Driver Released. 2017/06/25 08:40:28 (permalink)
    Dave,
    The firmware just came out last week, so you may have to update it. It's not a big deal - you do it through he web interface. We can help you out if you get stuck ;-)
     

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    I usually use ASIO set at 64 or 128 samples
    er - that's it I think...
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    Re: New MOTU Ultralite AVB Driver Released. 2017/06/25 17:36:29 (permalink)
    @jbraner - Thanks for the offer, if i get stuck I will definitely take you up on it.  My hope is that since they are actually building the unit that I will receive now (or did so very recently) it will already be updated, but who knows how new firmware is released to production.
     
    Anyhow, I can't wait to get my new interface.

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    Re: New MOTU Ultralite AVB Driver Released. 2017/06/25 20:06:36 (permalink)
    I'm still getting weird behaviour with the new driver. It is quite happy at settings lower than the last driver - but most songs have to load with higher buffer settings, and then I can change to a lower setting and it will work fine.
     
    Example:
    - load a song with Ultralite AVB set to buffer 64 samples, safety 16
    - (most times but not all) either no sound (but meters moving) or it lets out a screech, or clicks
    - change to buffer 128 samples, safety 16
    - it plays perfectly
    - now change back to buffer 64 samples, safety 16
    - and it plays perfectly
    until you load a new song...
     
    I've logged a techlink with MOTU, so we'll see what they say. They were very helpful hen I had issues last year (2 driver versions ago?)
     

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    I usually use ASIO set at 64 or 128 samples
    er - that's it I think...
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    Re: New MOTU Ultralite AVB Driver Released. 2017/06/27 15:46:08 (permalink)
    Hi John,

    Did you get it sorted?

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    Re: New MOTU Ultralite AVB Driver Released. 2017/06/27 18:03:25 (permalink)
    Hi Rob,
    No word from MOTU. They were really good last time when we had those connection issues, but this time there is no word.
    This new driver works really well, when it's "working". I'm easily running at lower latencies and there's no crackling etc. It just seems that sometimes SONAR isn't quite happy "introducing itself" to the Ultralite AVB. Once I go to the browser, and change the settings (and then maybe change them back) then it's fine :-\ 

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    I usually use ASIO set at 64 or 128 samples
    er - that's it I think...
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    Re: New MOTU Ultralite AVB Driver Released. 2017/06/27 20:56:15 (permalink)
    Did MOTU change the name of the I/O's as reported to SONAR? I think that might be what confuses SONAR sometimes... 

    John Braner
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    I usually use ASIO set at 64 or 128 samples
    er - that's it I think...
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    Re: New MOTU Ultralite AVB Driver Released. 2017/06/28 05:27:05 (permalink)
    jbraner
    Hi Rob,
    No word from MOTU. They were really good last time when we had those connection issues, but this time there is no word.
    This new driver works really well, when it's "working". I'm easily running at lower latencies and there's no crackling etc. It just seems that sometimes SONAR isn't quite happy "introducing itself" to the Ultralite AVB. Once I go to the browser, and change the settings (and then maybe change them back) then it's fine :-\ 




    They are still good - just might be a bit busy at times. I had several conversations with them recently via techlinks (e.g. regarding firmware upgrades or problems which were actually cause by another USB device interfering) and they always answered, at least within a few days.
     
    BTW, are you on the #1703 Creators update already? Do you have other devices on the same USB root hub? Because that combination (#1703 plus A-PRO MIDI controller on same USB root) caused strange behavior i.e. I could not change the settings on the MOTU webUI (it just would not accept them and always stick to what was there) until I took the A-PRO off and all worked as before. Forcing a reinstall of the A-PRO then fixed it ...

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    Re: New MOTU Ultralite AVB Driver Released. 2017/06/28 05:31:49 (permalink)
    jbraner
    Did MOTU change the name of the I/O's as reported to SONAR? I think that might be what confuses SONAR sometimes... 




    It has always been like this if you had "use friendly names" unchecked in Sonar.
     
    I like that feature a lot as you can rename the audio channel inside the MOTU routing matrix to what is physically connected (e.g. name of pre-amp or mic) and when you start Sonar it will have the name of the device showing in the input/output drop list, which makes Sonar routing much easier in case of 20+ inputs ...
     
    It should not confuse Sonar as it seems to remember/address the channels by sequence, so unless you do not disable a bunch on inputs/outputs (e.g. guitar direct in) the routing will be preserved and just the labels change.

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    Re: New MOTU Ultralite AVB Driver Released. 2017/06/28 08:09:07 (permalink)
    Hi Rob,
     
    We'll see if they get back to me. I'm not sharing the USB port with anything else, so that's good. Also - yeah, I'm on the creators update now.
     
    I was just wondering about the port names. I always use "friendly names" but every once in a while, with the interface up and running, I'll load SONAR (or open a new file in SONAR) and it tells me something like "I can't connect to that device, but I'll connect to this one - OK?" Mreanwhile - the Ultralite AVB is the only device it has ever connected to (in the last couple of years anyway)

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    I usually use ASIO set at 64 or 128 samples
    er - that's it I think...
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    Re: New MOTU Ultralite AVB Driver Released. 2017/06/29 20:07:25 (permalink)
    Well, I'm in touch with MOTU, so we'll see what happens. It's like SONAR just needs to be "re acquainted" with the interface sometimes (for no good reason).

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    I usually use ASIO set at 64 or 128 samples
    er - that's it I think...
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    Re: New MOTU Ultralite AVB Driver Released. 2017/07/08 01:17:39 (permalink)
    So I just  got my Ultralite AVB today.  Some observations that could help others with set up.
     
    First, the driver that the "Big Blue Driver and Software Download Button" installs is NOT the latest version.  It is the version released in March (even though right below the button it indicates the latest version.)  The latest firmware "almost" works with that driver version.  There is some minor clicking and popping when playing YouTube and very noticeable distortion in Sonar.
     
    In trying to fix that problem, I began to encounter other issues.  After loading the new driver and rebooting the computer with the unit on, I encounter a freeze going into Sonar and severe stuttering from Youtube (which actually continued after shutting down Chrome.)  I had to turn the unit off.  The computer also booted very slowly and was sluggish.  I was also having trouble connecting to the unit through the WebUI.  I would have to power the unit off and back on to get it to connect and it even dropped the connection once.  I have the unit connected to a USB PCI card (or PCIe - not sure which) which also had my keyboard controller and MPD18 controller connected through it.  I unplugged those other two devices, but that did not fix the issue.
     
    Finally I moved to a different USB port which seemed to fix the issue.  I am not sure if the unit does not like USB -> PCIe cards, or the card is going bad, but this seems to work.
     
    So the TL;DR version:
    1) Make sure you have the latest driver its 4.0.7.2823.  The file name on the installer will reference 4.0 (782321) in the file name.
    2) Power up the unit AFTER powering up the computer
    3) Try a USB port that is not routed through PCI or PCIe card.

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    Re: New MOTU Ultralite AVB Driver Released. 2017/07/08 08:24:53 (permalink)
    Hi Dave,
     
    It's good to hear from a fellow AVB user ;-)
     
    So the TL;DR version:
    1) Make sure you have the latest driver its 4.0.7.2823.  The file name on the installer will reference 4.0 (782321) in the file name.

    Rob already warned us about this - earlier in the thread.
     

    2) Power up the unit AFTER powering up the computer

    You shouldn't have to worry about this, once you're up and running (see #3)
     
    3) Try a USB port that is not routed through PCI or PCIe card.

    Jim Roseberry has warned about this in other threads. Also, on gearslutz there has been some conversation about people having problems (or not) with certain USB3 ports on certain motherboards.
    I think it's always safe to say:
    - try the mobo Intel USB ports first
    - if USB3 ports cause a problem - try USB 2 (there's plenty of bandwidth on a USB2 port)
    - try asmedia (mobo) ports next
    - try PCI(e) USB ports last. You can always move your keyboard or mouse or printer etc to the PCI ports if you need to free up a mobo one.
     
    hth
     

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    - MOTU Ultralite AVB audio interface
    I usually use ASIO set at 64 or 128 samples
    er - that's it I think...
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    Re: New MOTU Ultralite AVB Driver Released. 2017/07/08 10:41:00 (permalink)
    Thanks jbraner. I was trying the obvious things before I went to this thread to troubleshoot.  When I got it working, I just came here to post what I did.  If I had read the thread before I started, it might have saved me some time.  I somehow missed Jim's comments in the other thread about USB -> PCI card issue, but it worked out.
     
    I actually am using USB2 ports (in both scenarios.)
     
    Oh, and updating the firmware was a breeze.  Although, I was hoping I could do it through the USB connection, it wasn't a big deal to connect it to my network (unplug the cat 5 from my studio computer).  I did have to install the Motu software on a laptop with wifi, though to be able to talk to it.

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    Re: New MOTU Ultralite AVB Driver Released. 2017/07/08 13:20:11 (permalink)
    Well, it's good that there are a few of us on this forum now - to look after each other ;-)

    So, you're up and running OK now?

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    I usually use ASIO set at 64 or 128 samples
    er - that's it I think...
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    Re: New MOTU Ultralite AVB Driver Released. 2017/07/08 16:06:31 (permalink)
    As far as playback is concerned - yes.  I didn't have a chance to record anything or check midi and stuff like that (don't have a midi keyboard that is compatible with General midi that needs midi in.)
     
    It also nice that you can access the internal software on the unit through the ASIO panel in Sonar.  I still have to figure out routing and stuff like that, too.  Trying to decide how to route to headphones - do it in Sonar through a patch point or through the Motu mixer.
     
    I suspect I will now need to redo my templates, too.  Lots of fun ahead.

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    Re: New MOTU Ultralite AVB Driver Released. 2017/07/08 19:22:45 (permalink)
    Just a minor remark on the routing: that's one of the true strong points of the unit (next to the actual driver low latency performance) so take your time to understand it. May take a week or two to see all the options it opens. You might not even need to adjust your templates a whole lot apart from the audio inputs once you figured out YOUR best way of monitoring...

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    Re: New MOTU Ultralite AVB Driver Released. 2017/07/09 12:27:48 (permalink)
    Is there a way to mute the main outs on the unit either hardware or software (besides turning the level all the way down)?  The situation I am trying to figure out is when recording from a mic, obviously I want the output coming through the phones and not the monitors which are connect to main outs.  What is everybody doing?
     
    Also, I experienced a little bit of wonkiness last night.  I initally got no sound from iTunes.  I fiddled with the bit rate and the output setting in iTunes and it started working (required iTunes to be closed and reopened.)  However, when I went back to the old settings, it still worked, so I don't know what I did to fix this issue.
     
    I also started recording from the guitar input yesterday.  There is a bit of wonkiness where I will get distortion at a certain sample rate but then it will go away after changing the sample rate up or down, or by even toggling the record arm or input echo buttons in Sonar.  Still haven't figured out what is going on there.  I am not getting quite as good latency as you two are, but I think that is because of my machine being a little long in the tooth.  I think I am still sub 10ms at 44.1 which is better than my M Box.
     
    Anyhow, very happy with the MotU so far.  I need to get an angled rack stand to I can see the front panel better (or figure out how to raise it up) when I am standing up.

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    Rob[at]Sound-Rehab
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    Re: New MOTU Ultralite AVB Driver Released. 2017/07/09 16:22:25 (permalink)
    dwardzala
    I need to get an angled rack stand to I can see the front panel better (or figure out how to raise it up) when I am standing up.



    I do everything from the webUI, which I have open on the 2nd screen. Hardly ever change anything on the unit directly ...
     
     
    dwardzala
    Is there a way to mute the main outs on the unit either hardware or software (besides turning the level all the way down)?  The situation I am trying to figure out is when recording from a mic, obviously I want the output coming through the phones and not the monitors which are connect to main outs.  What is everybody doing?
     



    The webUI is also your friend here ... there are mute buttons for every channel in the mixer page (in case you use the direct mixer which I recommend) ...
     
    Anyway, your options are quite a few. Here's what I use, maybe some of it can help you figure out your setup ...
    • I have all inputs in the MOTU routing grid labelled with what is physically plugged into it, which makes routing a lot easier (you can save/recall setups!)
    • MOTU direct mixer is used for zero latency monitoring of virtually everything that does not need Sonar FX processing (hardware synth, digital piano, mic'd bass or guitar, drum kits, ...)
    • Nevertheless I have DAW OUT 3+4, 5+6, 7+8 reserved for Sonar headphone mix buses (and permanently routed to different headphone plugs around the studio, but this can be changed quickly by save/recall of MOTU routing and mix, which I also recommend to learn/use) ... this is way I can quickly setup to record a singer with the reverb that I will later (probably) use in the mix ...
    • Plus I can quickly combine both options ... e.g. zero latency for digi piano and dry vocals plus reverb tail from Sonar FX ...
    • Aside from that I use a monitor controller for muting mains and talk back ... but that is not a must as virtually everything it does can be achieved by Sonar buses and MOTU routing.
     
     

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    Re: New MOTU Ultralite AVB Driver Released. 2017/07/09 17:50:45 (permalink)
    I know its in the manual but how do you activate the direct mixer when using it as an AI?
     
    I mainly want to see the meters on the LCD so I can better set levels.

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    Re: New MOTU Ultralite AVB Driver Released. 2017/07/10 05:44:16 (permalink)
    It's always active, you just need to route your audio there i.e. you need to make the proper connection in the routing matrix - especially for the output (meaning you need to route the mixer out to your head phones and mains, not the DAW output)
     
    What I usually do is route all physical input channels to DAW input channels and in parallel also to the MOTU mixer (so I only have to mute/unmute in the MOTU mixer for changing direct monitoring). I also route the main DAW output to the mixer so that I do not need to change the routing whether I monitor directly or via Sonar or hybrid.
     
    BTW, I usually keep all mixer FX turned off (no need for it unless I use the Ultralite sometimes also for a standalone mini mixer)

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    Re: New MOTU Ultralite AVB Driver Released. 2017/07/10 05:48:43 (permalink)
    sometime else ...
     
    I tried to save new device presets yesterday on the Ultralite, but with the webUI connected via USB I always got an error message (Error 500???), while via LAN it worked fine !?!
     
    Anyone else seen this? Is this a general problem that appeared with the latest firmware or related to what I tried to save??? I remember having seen this error once about a year ago, but cannot remember what caused it, back then it seemed like some setting that it did not like as I could eventually save the device preset ... which I could not do at all via USB yesterday!
     

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    Re: New MOTU Ultralite AVB Driver Released. 2017/07/10 10:14:30 (permalink)
    I actually saved a preset over USB yesterday without issue.
     
    Also, I figured out I need to use the Audio Interface & Mixer configuration.  Without doing that, the mixer screen shows a message that indicates them mixer is inactive.

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    Re: New MOTU Ultralite AVB Driver Released. 2017/07/18 20:02:37 (permalink)
    There are some other threads about pops, maxed out meters, no sound, VST3 plugs, 64 bit engine etc, and some of these symptoms are what I see when I have my buffers set too low.
     
    I've always blamed the MOTU drivers for this, since things work fine when I set the buffers right. Also with these newest drivers, I was having problems on some files when using buffers = 64, but I could change the MOTU buffers to 128, and it worked fine - then when I changed back down to 64, it continued working fine.
     
    I've been working with MOTU support, and not much happening.
     
    Now the breakthrough! I disabled the 64 bit engine in Preferences -> Driver settings - and voila!! All my files load fine at 64/48 and 64/16! I still can't use buffers = 32, but if I disable all plugins, it's fine. So I think this is a SONAR (with some VST3 plugins) problem after all. I think the bakers are on to it (according to the other threads) so in the meantime - I'm finished scratching my head.
     
    I think I can finally say that these newest drivers are really good. ;-)

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    I usually use ASIO set at 64 or 128 samples
    er - that's it I think...
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    Re: New MOTU Ultralite AVB Driver Released. 2017/07/19 15:06:36 (permalink)
    So it's the 64 bit sonar engine once again. I had issues that were eventually traced to the 64 bit engine just a month ago.

    I'm not so sure that there is anything happening on the Sonar end as what regards the 64 bit engine problem. My problems were actually with the latest Cakewalk VST3 plugging LP EQ and LP MB so it would be all in their hands... but considering how many times this 64bit engine has been at the root of problem threads in recent years I cant remember reading about any fixes or improvements in all the monthly update docs...

    IHMO many have meanwhile simply unchecked this to be on the save side

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    Re: New MOTU Ultralite AVB Driver Released. 2017/07/19 15:25:12 (permalink)
    Yeah well, I missed that somehow ;-)

    There are a few threads about pops and no sound, and CW said they suspect a problem with the VST3 plugins - so they might be on to it. We'll see...

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    I usually use ASIO set at 64 or 128 samples
    er - that's it I think...
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